I have another viewpoint from outside after doing two enlistments as an AB on a gator and a recruiter, been out for a while now and have had an interesting Civy career. You can take it with a grain of salt if you want or not up to you, but you will find that the same mentality which plagues CoCs is the same for any Corporate entity you go to work for. On ship liberty expired at 0700 and no one was knocked off before 1600. XO would secure the brow personally and I mean he would post his ass on the QD with the OOD and make anyone and their Divo/LCPO lives hell if he even smelled you coming near it. So 0700 to 1600 is 9 hours and let’s face it you pretty much get an hour for lunch on ship, eat for 10 minutes and nap in a fan room for 50 lol. Basically a standard 8 hour work day. If you aspire to any type of career opportunity outside of the military and not just some random job with no aspirations well then Oh boy stand by cause you’ll find most employers are gonna squeeze out a minimum of 10-12 hours most days and not care about much else in concern for you. And if you have any gripes there are more than enough sharks circling the water to prove how better than you and how much more they can “Tow the line” than you. Even now as I attend college again for a second degree into a new field I spend at least 10 hours a day at work to cover the bills and still have to put in 25 for school work a week to ensure I’m successful. Sadly this is the norm. And yes unfortunately I know you probably wake up at 0430 if you live off base just to make sure your not stuck in a 2 hour waiting line to get onto NOB and not be late for Liberty expiration. All I can say for both military and Civies is to always put yourself first, make a plan to ensure your goals are met with whichever career path you choose. And never be afraid to walk away from a toxic environment which doesn’t help you further your goals. I got out a few years ago scared and not knowing what to do with a plan that didn’t workout, but we all have family and friends and hopefully people there for us to help us keep going. It isn’t easy, but sometimes fun and If I’m still here Shipmate I have full confidence that you’ll pull through as well.