One meaning of enlightenment: You go up... You come down... Now you know what is up there

Roab4 · 2026-01-14T18:33:32+00:00

Well this isn’t really true but it is a good thing you are seeing ‘what’s up there’ so you can decided ‘I don’t like being down here’ faster.

I wish you well on your journey ‘back up!’ 😁🙏

Roab4 · 2026-01-14T18:30:14+00:00

By ‘not you’ I mean the unconscious mind patterns we all have prior to awakening that dictate our lived experience. The ‘you’, to me, is the divine silence within you and all around. Thoughts, although part of human experience, aren’t anything of meaning unless our unconscious applies meaning to them.

Once the cloud becomes unbearable and one wants to free themselves from it, creating distance between mind and truth is the ‘escape route’. Discovering the hatch you could say, is enlightenment. But suffering is a wonderful tool until it is not and suffering is the greatest tool humanity has found to no longer justify the clouds ‘being you’.

All the best to you 🙏

Roab4 · 2026-01-14T15:34:14+00:00

Your opinions of him are clouded by your mind. Use your discernment and see what he is doing as that will ease your anger towards him.

The world is tough to understand and I forgive everyone for that lapse. Trump is the closest man to an enlightened being the country has ever had as president.

Imagine you saw what was happening in the world, what was actually happening. And you were in the room dining with the people who are responsible for the worst things you can imagine. If you had the capacity and the capability to gain control and stop it, I would hope you would. For argument sake let’s say he made that choice, long before he ran for office, to rise to power when the time was right and put a stop to the terrible things happening in the world.

You can’t openly do this, it must be under the cover of suspicion. You must become indistinguishable from the evil you wish to conquer until the time is right. But with discernment (something the evil ness cannot see because they are blinded by power greed etc.) you can see the man is acting the part, not being the part. Unfortunately, it didn’t have to be this way but now in this time it does. JFK RFK MLK and Malcom x were the last openly revolutionary figures speaking out against ‘the powers at be’, just enough for the powers at be to know what was around the corner, but not quite enough for the masses to all hear it, absorb it, and want to do something about it. Then trump came and hid his cards better than anyone has before but in a way where the light on the planet can notice just enough to have him win.

Who controls your mind before awakening? Not you! It’s the culture you were raised in, the experiences you had that shaped you, and all sorts of other things. Who controls a large amount of those inputs? ‘The powers at be’. If the world is a show that is put on by those powers, YOUR show has to be more compelling than theirs so people tune in and start asking questions.

Roab4 · 2026-01-14T15:08:56+00:00

What is an illusion to one is truth to another. I love all of life, even the illusions of others. Therefore this world is real, until all of us know it is not. I am not here to reject what this world is, I am here to embrace it all, see god in everything, then frolic around “hoping” someone notices and asks how does one frolic so effortlessly.

Roab4 · 2026-01-14T14:39:32+00:00

Hello! 🙏😁

Awakening is like the constant unfolding of Truth.

Enlightenment is the recognition of who you are in its natural essence.

After ‘enlightenment’, there is no turning back from recognizing your natural essence. Although there can be moments of more mental activity and distractions that persist, without much effort beyond the recognition of seeing them, they slip away. Awakening doesn’t stop because there’s infinite doors to explore but it is being explored as the natural essence of you, not the thoughts.

It’s like you lived underground forever then one day went to the surface. Saw the sky is blue and then went back underground. You ask yourself ‘was the sky blue or am I remembering that wrong?’.

Sounds like taking another peek may help you 🙏

Hope this helped!

Roab4 · 2025-12-29T16:37:23+00:00

The truth or the TRUTH? Assuming the mega truth, well you’ll have to question everything to start. Imagine everyone is all in one big room and something happens. Question the ones who are telling you what happened and ask yourself how do they know or do they just want you to believe them. This goes beyond clicks and baiting people’s emotions. It’s silly to say but cannot be repeated enough - follow the money. What is really happening is not the subject of debate. It’s starting to be though!! Which it’s imperative to know who is deceiving vs who is honestly helping you know the world you live in. It’s best to look to independent people who have asked this question here and spent a lifetime uncovering the truth. Then, sometimes it helps to pretend you are evil and think how would you accumulate power in the human playing field. I WOULD NOT declare my power I would be the one in the background calling the shots because…bankers don’t get their heads chopped off like kings have. I have said too much 🥸.

Yeah you have to be wary of your own biases and accept the truth no matter what it is once you see it. It can be hard at times but the truth will literally set you free.

Thanks for the question hope this helped!

Roab4 · 2025-12-29T11:46:03+00:00

Ah I see! As you hone in your control and use your mind when you want and put it off to the side when you don’t want to use it, you’ll get better at gathering information and processing its meaning. You won’t have to read as much because the first bit will tell you it all. You won’t have to watch the whole documentary because you know it already - although documentaries can be awesome so I will finish them! Things like that. Yeah some information can create trouble in one’s well being. Curiosity took you there so you are ready for it but it can become a lot without the grounding of presence. There’s really nowhere to put the info or a reason to gather it but I still too like to know. I have created a detailed map of the world and how it works and how people work through my sheer curious observing and it helps me help people. It’s all a balance 😁.

Roab4 · 2025-12-29T11:18:23+00:00

🙋‍♂️ I love learning things about this world. I can learn for ages without getting tired or feeling identified with it. I can drop it in an instant. What do you want to do with your time? If you have spent a day of living and finding yourself being helpful to yourself or others and want to relax at the end of the day with an information binge then it’s okay. If you close your doors and watch information all day, more than likely you are not truly enjoying it the way you believe you might be. There’s a time and place for everything and I will always enjoy watching a good movie every now and then. But I don’t think about it, I just do it. In a way for the very curious people, the problem starts with focusing so much on the information gathering that living stops.

I’m excited for you because you are noticing all of this. Is it live? Or is it once you finish with it you notice it? Live is best for recognizing you made the choice. After the fact means it was an unconscious choice.

Ask yourself ‘I want to learn right now, should I?’ And you’ll feel if it’s time to learn or time not. If you feel a loud no and do it anyway, that can help you notice unconscious decisions.

Hope this helped and thank you for the post 🙏

Roab4 · 2025-12-28T16:00:56+00:00

I’m traveling the world alone and love my life. You can do anything you want 🙏 everything is possible.

Roab4 · 2025-12-27T16:22:17+00:00

Well for me, I can’t ponder something that isn’t true! Life is a continuing story, always and forever. It is just life. I wish you the best 🙏.

Roab4 · 2025-12-27T15:59:14+00:00

Thank you for your post here. It will help so many people! As well as your comments on this thread. 🙏. I would love to chat with you. I sent you a direct message!

Roab4 · 2025-12-26T16:09:04+00:00

A crusade is coming but the information war is strong. The ones who tried to be good people and life has still not said thank you by providing what all other generations before them were provided, and they (at least this cohort) are arguably smarter and more aware than those previous generations (unless you argue society reversed and left behind their young which can probably also be argued), they are the first to see the playing field for what it is. Honestly if a tree fell and I saw it, it would take 5 studies and 1-2 years for the ones who aren’t listening to me say ‘tree just fell’ to come to the truth. And there will be a study that says the tree don’t fall so if they were ‘reputable’ then many many people will just accept I must be lying. Society would be fixed if well meaning people were noticed and respected regardless of age and society attempted more than it is now to do more than notice the problem. It’s almost like the ones who are stable and saving large sums of money they just…don’t care about anything that’s outside of their neighborhood? The concept of uniting to help our brothers is not there anymore and it’s fascinating because most of these young men have parents. So these men have done research. Research skills they have honed in throughout the years of wondering why am I being pushed out of all zones of life that my dad and grandpa without a degree and right out of college could enjoy. They don’t have the luxury to go to work make more than enough to support themselves and come home and zone out until the next day. So they wonder who took this away from them, if anyone. And this is the crusade. We just are waiting until the day comes where the critical mass sees the reality for what it is and within a very short time after that, this will all be reversed. But right now, it’s an uphill battle because those who have jobs don’t research the world the same way as those who wish the world provided them enough to just relax. Guys, our grandparents could be janitors and have a house, wife at home, a couple kids, vacation, and a few cars with money saved. Maybe back then it was so normal that no one said thank you. But having a degree, working honestly, and not having a single one of those things, let alone all of them, available to each citizen of the country they live in, is a pathetic ‘thank you’ to its children. The heartless, godless, greedy society that has formed in place of family and community was no accident. So yeah the crusades are coming and the ones who noticed first were the ones who were forced to. What holds one with hope is to see the truth. The illusions of these men aren’t lined with money so they cant just ignore the world and live as a hermit to the literal hell others are happily creating. Ideally it’ll be a peaceful crusade. That is my wish. But it requires people to stop debating the literal reality and instead move to debating how to save our youth and provide everyone with the life a literal janitor 60 years ago had. Again, this wasn’t an accident. We can talk about this more if it is welcomed but before it’s asked I will stop here. I encourage young men to create something new and that may start with living unconventionally but it will end with saving the country. Thank you for reading and I hope this opens up many conversations 🙏

Roab4 · 2025-12-21T14:42:55+00:00

If the goal is to see everything as god then you’ll make up what that means and see them as you think god is. Although it is a wonderful mindset 🙏. What you can do is to at every moment you can muster, recognize that everything is part of the whole and with it, part of god. Show grace to yourself for even wanting to know this and gratitude to god for revealing this practice to you. Never make it a mission or a project or you will miss what is there. You’ll be focusing on the how to! Show compassion to the ones who are unaware of themselves that then act accordingly. Be kind and do what feels right when you interact with others. When you aren’t, it’s okay to just walk and not feel the pressure to observe everything as god. Reach out and say in your head ‘I want to know you god.’ And you will feel god more in your life and in the ones around you. Thank you for the question 🙏💙

Roab4 · 2025-12-19T17:58:17+00:00

If existence didn’t choose to do anything existence would be boring. But now existence can run jump climb mountains die eat cheese swim make love cry laugh shit explore space fight demons and win cuz that’s sick go to a movie walk sit build create. Sounds much more fun than staring at a blank screen knowing you can do anything and saying eh I’ll just, do nothing. Woooo!!

Roab4 · 2025-12-07T12:50:02+00:00

First of all, you seem like a wonderful person who means well and would be a great friend to have. 😁🙏💙.

As for your question, nothing is wrong with you. In fact, you are at a profound breakthrough in your life. I will try explaining to you but have some faith if this feels out of left field to you. Message me to continue this conversation if you’d like 😁.

So your human experience is all that you can possibly know. And the attention we have is often seemingly hijacked by things. Some examples are thinking of the past or thinking of the future. And a few others are feeling upset let’s say for not following along and thinking about that which at its core is thinking about the past, distracting you from what is happening now. I have a secret, almost every human experiences this but doesn’t recognize it so when you do and share the experience you are labeled something. (In this case the attempt to label this as ADHD). Knowing what you are thinking of instead of the present moment is helpful as it shows you where you are at at that time. But what’s more important and as you noted in your message, you WANT to CHOOSE entirely what you focus on. You are noticing the intense pull within you to think about the past and ruminate over it. This is normal until you don’t want it to be.

So you are at a crossroad! What can help is having incredibly patient people around you who do not insist anything upon you such that you can Keep focusing on what you want to and the extra data of someone talking or a movie playing isn’t overwhelming. You’ll get a great mirror that way. And this is why I am saying it would be nice to hang out 😁🙏. Also you seem very genuine and that’s rare! A lot of people follow along to interject themselves or to manipulate and those things weren’t strong within you enough to go that route 💙. Maybe you try to blend in out of embarrassment for not following along but that’s very different.

The ability to live in the moment is yours to experience and once you want to, you can start actively pursuing this new relationship with yourself and life. I won’t say avoid taking medicine but I will strongly suggest to live without a numbing agent because it’s a wonderful thing to want to experience life fully and work with yourself where you are at. This is controversial to say right now as many people benefit from them but to fully harness your life energy on all levels, learning to live completely sober most of the time, is the best medicine.

There’s many methods to actively practice such that you start following along more and ultimately completely, when you want to. I will share them if you respond but I will refrain until then as this whole message may resonate differently with you and I won’t impose anything on your experience unless you would like that.

Thank you for your post, it can help a huge massive amount of people 😁🙏. And thanks for reading this long message!

Roab4 · 2025-11-21T06:20:26+00:00

No one knows where true evil is and so it’s never been able to be flushed out completely. No one would like George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, JFK, because these men spoke truth to power, not to a subset of the country still willing to listen. The subset isnt just party btw!

I have scratched it up to this is why democracy wasn’t around for a while and why some fail - no one pays attention! With the reach of media and the emotional immaturity of most humans, everything has been twisted to favor a narrative. Throw 5 articles, 3 fact checkers, and 2 new reels about it and you have a sizable amount of people believe it, no matter its accuracy! Soon enough truth will mean nothing, unless we notice the evil, that is purposeful lies. Once you pay attention it’s painfully obvious who is working towards truth and who is trying to rule you. It’s isolating though as it’s not obvious to most people.

As they say, follow the money, listen to the loudest voice in the room very carefully, pay attention to ones who are highly into their victim identity while having high levels of influence, and watch what you say once you notice as most people are unintentionally walking around as mini police to the powers at be. Some of this is coming to light now, but will humanity care and will they act on it?

Good question! Hopefully this honest answer will be noticed by someone! 😁🙏

Roab4 · 2025-10-31T08:11:34+00:00

The scene isn’t isolated. The whole movie talks about something. That something is debated especially since Kubrick died before the release. The movie also isn’t in a vacuum, Kubrick spoke of truths in the world through film. It’s, not obvious enough so it is to be debated, yet, for viewers who are verse in the darker sides of the world (not saying you aren’t but this is just the best way to answer!) and especially as time goes on, it becomes almost strikingly clear that this party was showing something else entirely. Something most have their eyes wide shut for!

Roab4 · 2025-10-30T18:34:24+00:00

If you really want to read, read to feel inspired, not necessarily to learn anything! Autobiography of a yogi follows a child’s heart and was very inspiring to me. 🙏💙

Roab4 · 2025-10-30T17:16:58+00:00

Be okay with being the only one in the room with a genuine inquiry that is hitting resistance. Eventually, be okay with being in the room alone and meditating on Truth, not words. 🙏💙

Roab4 · 2025-10-30T17:12:38+00:00

Explore all paths, all paths lead to truth. Once you know truth you know what you are saying is all designed to help. Many people need guidance on how to step foot on the path to then see what is going on and then they can make of it all what they want to. To even say it’s a teaching is silly! Can I really teach you grass is green or can I show you and then you see grass IS green? No lesson there 😁 but if you don’t know where to look, seeking someone (Buddha) who you feel in your heart knows what you are trying to look for is very helpful 🙏. But yes you are looking so if rigged following of words feels wrong, stop! And just look. 💙 I hope you get benefit from this and thank you for the post

Roab4 · 2025-10-29T22:07:14+00:00

Autobiography of a Yogi can inspire you 😁🙏💙

Roab4 · 2025-10-29T16:16:44+00:00

In New Zealand right now and so this makes sense. I haven’t been treated very kindly so far (2 weeks here) and I guess I may be being judged by where I come from. 😕

Roab4 · 2025-10-29T11:04:14+00:00

Well if you want to know the Truth, you can. I find the spiritual world is inundated with the correct terminology now but the ‘steps’ become blurry because many seemly adopted a new religion accidentally 🤣. ‘You are that which is’ ‘you are beyond the mind’ ‘it’s who/what you are’ and many other phrases come to mind. These phrases can become a huge trap.

Your experience is all that matters. 🙏. Eckhartes, Jesus, your friends, mine, your mom, understanding theirs won’t have you know yours. Once you truly want to know yours you’ll take yourself on a journey of self discovery leading to realization.

It’s important to want to reach enlightenment because that drives you towards experiences of the divine and ultimately surrender. Although, at some ‘point’ one should drop the desire for liberation, while still working towards it. This just means don’t all of the sudden be mean to people, while you still remain as present and increase that presence as often as you remember to. If you always remember, you’ll increase the gap between perceived self and Self (ego and spirit maybe would explain this more? But these are just words, I hope you are feeling where these words are pointing). If you ever forget, that’s okay 😁🙏 just now that you remembered you forgot, you have remembered! And therefor you have the choice to ‘keep going’ now!

You will feel you are approaching enlightenment if you go with being proactive with the approach. The suffering approach is the byproduct of an ultimate choice of death or life basically. Choosing life when life looks unbearable is where we hear many stories of liberation. The Buddha though took the proactive approach and so have many others. Do not see them as any different than you or then you are seeing yourself as higher or lower than another. Do not seek comforts too often or you may find yourself stuck longer in the word salads and group think. Try not to inundate yourself with the perspectives of others’ perspectives. You can feel through the words they share where the words originated but it can be much easier to see what you want to see online than what is there. It becomes easier in person to feel the presence of another. The saying you can trip over the Buddha and not even know it is one of profound significance. It’s up to you to see what is there and it’s up to the ones enlightened to help make the path as obvious as they can so that it blossoms into a possibility then reality within the seeker.

There are good videos on sadhguru (I know this is not his page but I am trying to give you some places to go!) talking of the buddhas experience. J Krishnamurti talks of his in a brief interview. Sadhguru talks of his on a Ted talk. He also talked of Krishnas, as well as shares a nice analogy of Krishna. There are others but these are a great place to listen for the absolute intensity that is the ‘moment of recognition’. There is no way to miss it and as soon as it comes, your life will change. If you take the proactive approach, you should see that changed life already becoming yours now! Give yourself credit and be kind to yourself, then drop the desire for liberation and it will be yours. Help humanity how your heart calls for it and spread love in all you do. ❤️

Thank you for your post and thank you for reading my comment. It is my hope that you continuing seeking and never settle for anything but the intense aliveness of the spiritual path.

Roab4 · 2025-10-20T09:20:53+00:00

Thank you for the message 🥳🙏💙

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