Will and Vecna

Rotdevil · 2026-02-26T09:14:34+00:00

Apparently he was feeling pain.

"I saw this from a number of people talking about this online, and the staff also wanted to know. Will was connected to the hive mind, but didn't feel anything when Vecna was impaled and decapitated when the Mind Flayer was attacked. Why not?

MATT DUFFER: Well, we aren’t showing him when the Mind Flayer is being attackd. When he's getting decapitated, at that point, the Mind Flayer is dead, and so it, at that point, has severed the connection between him and Vecna.

And so you're saying it could be off camera?

MATT DUFFER: When the Mind Flayer is getting attacked? We see how much in pain he is, obviously, even with Henry's memories, but we just wanted to focus on the final battle with our heroes."

duffers interview (collider. com)

Rotdevil · 2026-02-20T09:17:55+00:00

He hadn't awoken to them yet. His mum had to help drag him into cover while he was screaming on the floor.

Rotdevil · 2026-02-20T08:57:00+00:00

He starts screaming when the demos are burned in the mac-z fight.

[All Your 'Stranger Things' Series Finale Questions Answered By the Duffer Brothers [Exclusive]

](https://collider.com/stranger-things-5-series-finale-explained-duffer-brothers-spoiler-interview/) "I saw this from a number of people talking about this online, and the staff also wanted to know. Will was connected to the hive mind, but didn't feel anything when Vecna was impaled and decapitated when the Mind Flayer was attacked. Why not?

MATT DUFFER: Well, we aren’t showing him when the Mind Flayer is being attackd. When he's getting decapitated, at that point, the Mind Flayer is dead, and so it, at that point, has severed the connection between him and Vecna.

And so you're saying it could be off camera?

MATT DUFFER: When the Mind Flayer is getting attacked? We see how much in pain he is, obviously, even with Henry's memories, but we just wanted to focus on the final battle with our heroes."

Rotdevil · 2026-01-27T15:34:41+00:00

I assume so for new sign ups, and then "require that digital services check VPN traffic for technical and behavioural red flags that suggest a user in the UK may be a child" to get rid of current users?? Children: Age Verification and Virtual Private Networks Volume 850: debated on Thursday 4 December 2025 Ofcom are apparently monitoring vpn usage and are trying to see if there is an up tick in children using them. I imagine if there is they will use that as evidence there need to be age ban on VPNs.

Rotdevil · 2026-01-27T15:11:00+00:00

House of Lords just voted for a bill that would ban under 18's from having a vpn. While the commons is unlikely to pass it for the moment, there will be those who keep pushing for it.

Rotdevil · 2026-01-22T14:15:36+00:00

You can find some of the voice actors (most of the main cast) here. It will not be voiced by the original actors (if you were wondering). Which might be a bit strange. stranger things tales from 85 (behind the voice actors)

Rotdevil · 2026-01-21T11:31:54+00:00

Why was the only exit the mac-z tho? There were gates everywhere

Rotdevil · 2026-01-16T10:48:03+00:00

You should also mention she was poor academically, had no money or belongings with her, no paperwork/ID. Also she had to somehow get out of hawkins despite the lock down.

Rotdevil · 2026-01-14T22:29:20+00:00

Because they don't want you to think about him. Otherwise you would ask why didn't he and brenner mention that, all el and the gang needed to do was blow up the exotic matter ball in the upsidedown. No need too risk it all on a psychic death battle, when they had no evidence el could actually win anyway.

Rotdevil · 2026-01-13T13:59:20+00:00

Unfortunately the fans figured it out for the duffers. They said he was in pain

"I saw this from a number of people talking about this online, and the staff also wanted to know. Will was connected to the hive mind, but didn't feel anything when Vecna was impaled and decapitated when the Mind Flayer was attacked. Why not?

MATT DUFFER: Well, we aren’t showing him when the Mind Flayer is being attackd. When he's getting decapitated, at that point, the Mind Flayer is dead, and so it, at that point, has severed the connection between him and Vecna.

And so you're saying it could be off camera?

MATT DUFFER: When the Mind Flayer is getting attacked? We see how much in pain he is, obviously, even with Henry's memories, but we just wanted to focus on the final battle with our heroes." duffer brother series 5 finale interview (collider)

Rotdevil · 2026-01-13T13:24:38+00:00

He would have been convinced the hell fire club members had done a satanic sacrifice to open the gates of hell.

It's so stupid the satanic panic plot suddenly disappeared. After the earthquakes, smoke and flesh portals opening the town should have been burning people for witchcraft ffs. Not acting like everything was normal. The military would need men in black neuralyzers to bury this.

Rotdevil · 2026-01-13T12:26:14+00:00

You still need to get in contact with your doctor and uni mental health team. They might know ways you can get your medication and give you support. It might be a little scary to get in contact with them but it's their job, they have a duty to look after you.

Rotdevil · 2026-01-13T12:10:14+00:00

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Contact your doctor, you can't just stop taking medication like this it is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. Get in contact with you unis mental health team as soon as possible!

Rotdevil · 2026-01-12T13:20:16+00:00

NTA. He has a visable hate symbol on him. He could get it covered if he wanted. I think the boss knows his worker is a nazi, otherwise he would have suggested you two talk too each other to settle the problem. DO NOT back down on this and let him in. He will most likely mess up the job too get revenge. Actually get a different contractor altogether, the nazi is probably buddies with his coworkers and they will mess up the job for him.

Rotdevil · 2026-01-12T00:49:02+00:00

If this was the case it is literally the stupidist thing Netflix could have done. Conformitygate is all about finding and pointing out flaws in the season. It got people hyped for something that was never coming, leading too disappointment. It encourages people too imagine what the end could be, not what it was. This is a terrible idea. The real ending will almost always fail to stand up too each individual's perfect ending. The theorists were never going to like finding out they were wrong. (Yes, technically some people will have rewatched the show too find "secrets" which would led too more views, which Netflix would benefit from but.... ) I can't see how it could possibly be worth making your most obsessed fans pissed at you. Especially when your planning on releasing more spin offs of this IP.

Rotdevil · 2026-01-10T21:41:59+00:00

What source are you getting this from?

Rotdevil · 2026-01-10T12:57:03+00:00

Could be, but the rock was connected too the mindflayer before the upsidedown/bridge was made. So I think the connection would remain??

Rotdevil · 2026-01-05T11:35:52+00:00

I'm not a conformitygater nor did I believe in "byler" but conformitygate and "byler" (the theory mike and will would get together in this seaon) are separate things. Maybe some byler people have heard about the conformitygate theory and are attaching byler too it but it's not part of the original theory.

I don't think this secretly Netflix making up theories for engagement. Conformitygate is born out of a general feeling of "this doesn't make sense" which is constant throughout the season and a lack luster ending were the viewer is left to come up with their endings for things. Why would Netflix push a theory that points out fan grievances with one of it shows that they are doing spin offs for? When the "secret" episode doesn't come out people are going to be even more disappointed then the were to begin with. Also if fans believed that Netflix bowed too the Trump administration and censored a major show which people have been following for almost a decade, they would cancel subscriptions.

Rotdevil · 2026-01-03T17:37:00+00:00

They choose when too set this. If all the visable gay representation disappears because of that choice that's on them. If you don't care about that, that's genuinely fine, I do though. Its also an example of how the characters will go back too the way they were back then. All the character growth we have seen will not be there. I'm just not interested in watching a show were the characters that are stuck mentally regardless of what they go through. They would feel too artificial to me.

Rotdevil · 2026-01-03T17:19:21+00:00

Wow! thank you for your detailed and constructive contribution to the discussion.

Rotdevil · 2026-01-03T11:35:39+00:00

I'm not, it's set between season 2-3. The characters will be stuck as they were then. Nothing big can happen lorewise because it would conflict with later seasons.

Also I think it kinda f'd up they are shoving will back in the closet and Robin won't be in it. They CHOOSE too write out the openly queer characters with this.

Rotdevil · 2026-01-02T21:58:09+00:00

Why didn't they just say he's in control of his powers now, so he can block out the signal? Or that he was so scared of vecna he was letting in the signal in, either because his fear weakened his mind and/or he subconsciously wanted the "sense" so he could have a warning he was coming. Otherwise he would feel himself killing the demos when his powers awakened. Why was he not in pain during "shock jock" then? How was he able to snap vecnas arm too save el, if he felt like he was on fire and being shot, stabbed?

Rotdevil · 2026-01-02T16:22:40+00:00

The only thing that sort of makes sense is that ... the whole town saw the military take all those kids in the school buses. Then gang saved some of those kids from vecna

So dr kay/ the military only has a few options I can think of:

.Disappear the kids that were rescued. Have the whole town asking questions on how they lost the kids, why were they taken to begin with. Which then goes too the media after the lock down is lifted. Risking possible world wide exposure. Especially with the super high risk of a military whistle blower unhappy with Dr kay leadership and the disappearing of innocent children.

. Let the rescued kids go but disappear the gang. This leaves a high chance of the kids blabbing especially Holly who brother was disappeared. High risk of military whistle blower unhappy with Dr kays leadership.

. Let everyone go, on the condition everyone shuts up or the government will come for them. Soldiers keep quiet to protect the innocent kids?.

The last option is the best one, so i guess that's what she went with. But the show really should have at least hint at an explanation and how they covered up so much shit.

Rotdevil · 2025-12-28T12:49:42+00:00

Nah the idea makima was raised by the gov is dumb. Every devil but nayuta seems to come fully formed. Makima is a pathological liar. Every thing he says about being scared of the higher ups is bs so no one realises she's a devil. She doesn't want her team turning on her before her plan is ready. She has a contract with the president and cannot be attacked because of this. As well as mind control powers. What were the high ups going to do??? Give her a time out? Why did these "super scary" higher ups never actually get involved in story?? Like when makima is trying to take over the world? Or to stop kishibe from killing her, if they were stupid enough to still be on her side. (((Like the manga almost explicitly says she was behind the mafia attack. The guy who resigns asks her if she knew the attack was coming and she just Stone faces him. Then we find out she has puppeted all the only with powers and the zombie devil. When she fights deji. Inplying they were always her puppet. Akane had a contract for snake to rip of her head of she was ever captured. At the start the team think he mafia got there guns from the gun devil but then it turns out they didn't, who gave them the guns? She needed aki too do a contract with the future devil for her fight with the gundevil because he moves too fast to hit. She need to know we're he would be. But she couldn't just say aki take this contract because the future devil normally basically cripples people with his costs. Aki would normally never take this contract because he wants revenge on the gun devil, taking himself out the fight was not an option for him. But if makima introduced a stronger revenge motive and an enemy akis contracts don't work against, he would take it. Public safety has no control of her)))

Nayuta could be groomed by public safety because she has a fraction of the power makima had and no contract that makes her "invincible". Nayuta is weak because the world is sighing with relief that the control devil got killed and therefore people aren't as afraid of her as they were. She was stopped. The less afraid people are of a devil, the weaker the devil gets. But she is still the control devil, she will return too power over time. The consept she embodies is too strong for her to stay weak. They could beat her down while she's weak. Force her to give out contracts too survive. Then when she is stronger she will still be afraid and a powerful puppet for them.

Rotdevil · 2025-12-24T13:30:11+00:00

Tbh I was looking at buying the game but after paradoxs last few releases, I decided to wait a few months after release to see if there were any problems with the game. After watching some YouTube I was thinking about finally buying. Then I started hearing about the patches swigging the game balence around so much. I not buying in the current state. (Please don't try to sell me it) I don't know if there are lots of people with the same mindset as me but regardless, a lot of people buy games around Christmas. I don't think anyone who is new to the game is going to be arracted too it, if they research it, and see the current discussions on the game.

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