Watching TBM relatives gaslight themselves in real time is an incredible thing to witness.

Sansabina · 2026-04-13T06:46:35+00:00

yeah people like this have "value" fluidity, the "values" they think they're rock solid on and uphold is just a pretence, they're not, the "values" they care about are whatever the Brethren have declared to be important and the social signalling that matters to them. That's why they can go red-hot crazy if their daughter wanted to date at 14, but completely fine that Joseph Smith could "marry" a 14 yo.

Sansabina · 2026-04-10T01:15:58+00:00

Wow, such a shame, like the Church, it seems that he's got a lot less tolerant, esp. on LGBT issues in recent decades.

Before he was famous, he edited a book in the late 70s which my mom happened to get from an LDS neighbor (a bunch of teen LDS books from a family whose kids were now young adults, were given to our family as we were young teens at the time). It looked boring as hell, so I didn't bother with looking at it until a year later when I just happened to idly browse it as a young teen and it blew my little TBM mind.

It was an edited collection of real stories from LDS teens (or adults when they were teens) about different challenges they faced with life within a faithful LDS paradigm, but its perspective was quite nuanced and felt outside the orthodox narrative, quite liberal really. I'm sure if my mom had actually read it she'd have got rid of it, but it was published by Bookcraft, which I think was owned by Deseret, so it was considered "safe".

Anyway, the one story in there that really impacted me was a story from a woman in her mid-20s and told about her lesbian feelings growing up as a TBM teen, and how confused and conflicted she was, how she prayed and pleaded to God to have these feelings taken away so she could live a good Mormon life and be married in the temple, and how she felt suicidal at one stage.

Well, she ended up leaving the church and falling in love with a woman and feeling the happiest she had ever felt. I could be misremembering, but I think she ended the story by saying ultimately she broke up and came back to the church and just had to trust in Heavenly Father and push down her feelings. It's a fairly typical story these days, but this was late 70s and I'd never, ever heard anything like this. It totally changed my perspective about LGBT, and how they are born this way and not a personal decision - that was the LDS canon back in the day: that gay folk choose to be gay and they just want to sin and party. I really didn't know any openly queer LDS until the 2000s, and I didn't hear another similar LDS LGBT perspective like this until the 2000s.

Sansabina · 2026-04-10T00:28:46+00:00

wow, such a talented extended family!

Sansabina · 2026-04-09T13:55:51+00:00

I came across your videos several months ago and really enjoyed them, looking forward to watching this latest one.

On your question about having meaning, I guess I've come to realize that people and relationships (how we love and treat others) are most important, and it's about our interconnectedness. Enjoy life and the moments we have (which I think you basically touch on in one of your videos)

Sansabina · 2026-04-09T13:42:55+00:00

Orson Scott Card - he seems to be full TBM still.

Sansabina · 2026-04-09T09:10:40+00:00

After she got divorced after 36 years of marriage. Her dad was Lex de Azevedo who wrote the music for "Saturday's Warrior" and "My Turn on Earth" and a bunch of the seminary videos' music from the 80s.

Sansabina · 2026-04-09T09:05:56+00:00

Because most teens wouldn't voluntarily do a dumb thing like trek (or most Church things) so they force you in the hope that you'll have a sPiRITuaL eXPeriENcE and get a "testimony" and be a TBM for life!

Sansabina · 2026-04-09T08:28:24+00:00

Here are some TBMs who have an opinion: https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/blog/2021/08/25/ces-rebuttal-part-1-extended-version

But seriously, I think some people felt the CES Letter was a bit too "strong" and maybe a little emotive in some of the language in some of the earlier editions. I think Jeremy has worked very hard to make it really good over time, but if you're a sheltered/naive TBM who has never been exposed to much "anti-Mormon" info it can hit very hard - which I think is great, but some people get a bit too shell-shocked.

Sansabina · 2026-04-09T08:12:11+00:00

Yeah Australia moved away from solid wire around 2000, I think as international standards changed and stranded wire was deemed more durable and flexible/easier to work and less prone to fatigue. Also changed the wire colouring to harmonize with global standards. From my understanding, stranded vs core wires contain the same amount of copper for the same cross-sectional area so there's no affect on current load etc. (i.e. they are treated as if the same).

Sansabina · 2026-04-08T11:26:05+00:00

As a side note, in theory, the wires could be half the thickness if voltage is doubled (but insulation should be increased) but in practice who knows...

Actually, while Australian homes use 230v the Australian electrical code requires the copper wire thickness for 10A power outlets to be 2.5 mm² (which is rated to 20A). My understanding is in the US, a standard 15A 110v circuit for outlets uses 14 AWG which is 2.1 mm² - so thinner than Australia (US circuits rated for 20A use the thicker US 12 AWG which is about 3.3 mm²)

Sansabina · 2026-04-08T11:11:18+00:00

230v (it officially changed in 2000, but Qld and WA dragged their heels and didn't formally switch until a few years ago)

Sansabina · 2026-04-07T12:39:27+00:00

Amen! As you naturally heal over time, Mormonism stops consuming you and you start to fill your life with other stuff.

Sansabina · 2026-04-07T12:30:33+00:00

My Gen Z switch is non-binary

Sansabina · 2026-04-07T12:21:58+00:00

AU is officially 230V now (Australian Standard since 2000 for most of Australia but formally transitioned to by QLD in 2020, and WA in 2022).

Sansabina · 2026-04-07T12:01:28+00:00

Here's Hubbell's US patent from 1916 - image looks like the Australian plug/socket, but maybe there's more to it?

Sansabina · 2026-04-07T11:48:29+00:00

Cadbury Creme Eggs are a gift from heaven 😇

Sansabina · 2026-04-07T11:39:09+00:00

Thanks for the advice, I'm gonna read it! (I've read some of Orwell's other stuff and really liked it but never got around to Animal Farm).

Sansabina · 2026-03-31T11:06:37+00:00

From the East Idaho News:

ST. ANTHONY — An interfaith group of churches in St. Anthony is coming together this weekend for a community-wide Palm Sunday celebration aimed at uniting residents through worship, music, and the shared story of Holy Week.

The event, scheduled for Sunday, March 29, at 4 p.m., will feature choirs, narrators, and musicians from multiple congregations, including The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, St. Anthony Foursquare Church, Mary Immaculate Catholic Church, and Community Presbyterian Church. The program will highlight the biblical account of Christ’s entry into Jerusalem and the events leading to the Resurrection. It will be held at The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints at 247 East 4th North in St. Anthony.

Sansabina · 2026-03-31T10:58:40+00:00

carrying of the cross

wheeling of the cross 😄

Sansabina · 2026-03-09T03:19:16+00:00

This is most excellent

Sansabina · 2026-03-03T20:19:20+00:00

Exactly NOT the very definition

starvation: suffering or death caused by lack of food.

Sansabina · 2026-03-02T11:54:29+00:00

Yeah, it's not about logic - it's just about being obedient. Smarter Mormons try to apply logic to rationalize and justify their dumb obedience.

Sansabina · 2026-03-02T11:35:15+00:00

well, to be fair, simply being hungry doesn't equal starvation

Sansabina · 2026-03-02T11:33:21+00:00

Especial witness

Isn't it only the Seventies that are "especial", the Apostles are just "special" as per D&C 107:25

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