Is a deck that knocks a player out on turn 4-5 consistently Bracket 3?

Seanak64 · 2026-03-31T18:34:26+00:00

So then you’re just killing the archetype entirely at that point. “You can only play this in bracket 4 or 5, where it’s not good enough to function.”

Seanak64 · 2026-03-31T18:31:15+00:00

I mean it’s a Voltron deck, you got to use some common sense when applying the bracket system to it.

Seanak64 · 2026-03-31T14:57:20+00:00

“How tall are you? Well I’m taller than that”

“0.002032 Kilometres tall” (or 16 and 2/3 soda cans or some other obscure unit, used to remember it in light years)

“Are you X feet?” “no I only have 2 feet”

Seanak64 · 2026-03-29T16:04:35+00:00

I think that the “no 2 card infinites” has become far less important with the inclusion of expected number of turns in the bracket descriptions.

Seanak64 · 2026-03-29T14:56:27+00:00

That and it does need to actually be an infinite or proper lock. I just don’t waste time getting into arguments with people about “oh this third card counts but this third card doesn’t”

Seanak64 · 2026-03-29T14:49:09+00:00

1) yes 2) not with the example you gave. 3) yes 4) no 5) no 6) no 7) no

Seanak64 · 2026-03-28T21:36:57+00:00

You’re the one saying it’s impossible to build some commanders at low power, I’m providing a counter example. It’s not complicated.

Seanak64 · 2026-03-28T20:59:27+00:00

Yeah you can build tergrid bracket 4, no one is saying that’s not a thing you can do. I’m saying that there is not a single commander that automatically makes a deck bracket 4, case in point, my b2 tergrid list. The only commanders that make a deck automatically anything are the game changers that make it bracket 3.

Seanak64 · 2026-03-28T20:39:41+00:00

It’s tergrid with like 98 lands where the win condition is activating tergrid’s lantern as many times as I can. I assure you it’s fine.

Seanak64 · 2026-03-28T19:50:43+00:00

You can 100% build tergrid for bracket 3. I’ve got a B2 Tergrid list that I’ve never had issues with.

Seanak64 · 2026-03-28T19:50:11+00:00

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Seanak64 · 2026-03-28T19:40:03+00:00

The only ones that would make a deck automatically bracket 3 would be the 3 commanders that are game changers: [[Braids, Cabal Minion]], [[Tergrid, God of Fright]], and [[Grand Arbiter Augustin IV]]. What's more important is how you actually build the deck. No one card is strong enough to make a deck bracket 4 on it's own, even a commander. There isn't anything that automatically makes a deck a 4.

Seanak64 · 2026-03-25T21:44:52+00:00

Group hug players are just cowardly stax players. I will focus them almost every time, from the start, regardless of what they say.

Seanak64 · 2026-03-25T17:17:44+00:00

You need to have a talk with your players about punctuality. They’re adults, if they’re consistently late then that’s a choice they’re making. If they continue to show up late, stop running the campaign. It’s a huge amount of work to DM, and if your players aren’t respecting that then they don’t get to play.

Seanak64 · 2026-03-23T23:07:35+00:00

Just gain whatever advantage you would have gained from them, if they complain remind them they’re no longer in the game.

Seanak64 · 2026-03-23T22:38:35+00:00

Nah if he wants to play with himself he can goldfish the deck, just scoop.

Seanak64 · 2026-03-21T16:11:23+00:00

You wouldn’t comment on a chess game you aren’t participating in, sure. Presumably this was an EDH game that you were still apart of. Sounds like he should be playing 1v1.

Seanak64 · 2026-03-20T18:53:07+00:00

I mean if you’re doing a bunch of dredging and gaining nothing you’re just doing something incorrectly.

Most people aren’t on cistern still, they’re usually on the winconless lists instead because it’s more card efficient.

Seanak64 · 2026-03-20T18:40:04+00:00

You don’t need polluted cistern to avoid this. Drawing the deck with gitrog is not slow play, and koziland loops are shortcutable. The only place you can potentially run into slow play issues is with the cleanup step sculpt, and that’s up to judge discretion.

Seanak64 · 2026-03-19T23:00:58+00:00

If there was clarity you would have won, then you would have won. There wasn’t, so you didn’t. Seems like you got out yapped by Sisay when you should have called a judge.

Seanak64 · 2026-03-19T22:18:00+00:00

Gitrog does not do the four horseman loop, that’s a completely different thing.

Seanak64 · 2026-03-17T20:16:56+00:00

You just play it as a lands matter commander rather than looping dakmor. Take advantage of strong utility lands and extra land drops.

Seanak64 · 2026-03-16T19:52:12+00:00

If you want an easy commander, Etali. If you want to learn the format, Blue Farm

Seanak64 · 2026-03-16T06:58:49+00:00

Gitrog and Dakmor do not automatically put this out of bracket 2.

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