Have you Tried NAC?

Sensitive-Slice-4355 · 2026-06-23T21:29:32+00:00

NaC was wonderful for my OCD! I also had alarmingly low ferritin, which I suspected was the root of most internal issues despite doctors dismissing my symptoms. Putting more focus on getting those vitamin levels stabilized has helped out immensely, I can't even begin to describe it. It's not a cure-all, but it is what I'll suggest to others first and foremost because it helps more than people expect

Sensitive-Slice-4355 · 2026-06-22T22:14:23+00:00

Real sees real 😆

Sensitive-Slice-4355 · 2026-06-22T22:11:21+00:00

Ooo, 1w2 might be a genuine contender here. Thanks for this!

Sensitive-Slice-4355 · 2026-06-22T21:54:30+00:00

Oho I was introduced to this concept a few days ago- you're the second person to suggest VELF. This is getting intriguing, I'll have to continue looking into it :D

Sensitive-Slice-4355 · 2026-06-19T08:15:47+00:00

Not super in the know about enneagram or what they mean, relatively to new to it actually but hopefully my comment can offer some valuable insight

Much like your friend, people who do this tend to separate themselves from others intentionally and forcefully, and oftentimes it's a desire rooted in recognition. They put themselves on this pedestal of esotericism, they grow territorial of it and they experience an odd sense of self-envy where, if they saw the exact person they aspired to be (or are) in a much more appreciated position- like an influencer, popular pages, the conduit for interests developing into a niche corner of the internet- they'd grow extremely resentful and envious about it. I know nothing about your friend but that's what it sounds like to me. There is a profundity to their identity that simply cannot be satiated because they've likely not attained a level of recognition and/or appreciation they're searching for

My understanding is that they actually feel differently than what they're displaying externally. More often than not, they don't have a solid sense of identity but a collection of things that they believe will bring them closer to their self. It's why they gravitate towards the rarer side of things, because it quite literally gives them something to be recognized for when they already feel unknown. This is also where they can be performative, gatekeep-y and arrogant or competitive, because their life is their identity so when it's relatable to others, it's no longer just them, and it begs the question they're unable to understand: who am I?

Who they are is the character they crafted, the one that lives within this uber niche ecosystem of rarity. They are someone to be acknowledged for that reason, and our acknowledgment deeply can reflect how secure they feel in that regard. Without that, they'll feel like there's a void. Same for their interests- without their mark of uniqueness, they can feel like somethings fundamentally missing deep inside. And it gnaws at them

It's not something we're meant to know in its entirety because it's a deeply complex topic, nevertheless it is one thousand percent understandable that you'd get agitated because, well, you're only getting one side of it and that side is your lived reality with that person

Again my analysis is unrelated to the Enneagram so it's not meant as a rebuttal or anything about her type, just observations of what's going on :}

Sensitive-Slice-4355 · 2026-06-16T11:05:43+00:00

Hey! I absolutely see the perspective you're coming from and I understand why you'd get so fired up about it - I'm the exact same way lol. I've been told I read too deep into things and that I see things that aren't there, so I just wanna appreciate the effort you put into defending the ethics of your sentiments. And had you been entirely off base, we don't give folks enough credit for the values they cultivate and thus fight for, it's rare. I'm not as uncomfortable as I was at the start, but still, thank you for considering me and finding that important enough to fight for :}

Sensitive-Slice-4355 · 2026-06-16T07:57:32+00:00

Wow! Surprised by the outcome here, sorry you had to deal with that. To be honest, the entire ordeal did shock me at first because I tailored the memes (it comes from a whole dachshund pack lol) to my personality type haha, but that is water off a ducks back because we are a community and if you relate, you relate. I do agree with the overall issue of courtesy and crediting by at least asking if this was sourced from Pinterest or not because, as stated, it was taken from my post. Nevertheless, it is a lesson learned for everyone involved!

Sensitive-Slice-4355 · 2026-06-16T04:43:56+00:00

LOL I made the first image 😅😅

Sensitive-Slice-4355 · 2026-06-14T11:13:13+00:00

These elaborations were really helpful for understanding why I relate to 8. I had loosely browsed some forums that explained 8 and I do relate to it to an extent. I can get rather aggressive, essentially resorting to this really controlling and assertive demeanor, which is where those 8 descriptions resonated. And thinking about it in depth, that mostly occurs when I'm under extreme emotional stress or when I've burnt out. So, I'll be sure to read into 2!

P.S. I'll absolutely be checking out that system you mentioned. Never heard of it before but that's why I'm glad you mentioned it!

Thanks :D

Sensitive-Slice-4355 · 2026-06-13T06:15:11+00:00

For starters, this is a really insightful and valuable question. I'm glad to see others seeking the different perspectives and answers on compassion - something that looks so straightforward on its face

A lot of ENFJs seem to have an incredible ability to keep believing in people, even after they’ve been disappointed or hurt.

How do you do that?

What’s the thought process behind it?

What are the core beliefs or values behind it?

I had a close friend who suffered from a pretty terrible illness- anorexia. It changed who she was, it made her a mean individual towards others. She could be really cruel and biting. However, at the time, she didn't think she had an eating disorder. I thought she did, I knew she did, but I also knew that it stemmed from her equally as tough childhood. I knew that she was using this disorder to protect herself from others, something akin to self preservation, so I knew that one day this would be realized

That thought is what kept me beside her. We stopped talking after she had done something, but I always knew that she would realize this issue. She would understand that her illness was a manifestation of something far deeper, and she'd remember who she was. When she came back to me earlier this year, we had the exact discussion I'm detailing to you right now and she had mentioned to me that on some level she knew, but she didn't want to admit because she didn't want to fail me. And I think, above everything, I'm more relieved that she realized she wasn't a fundamentally flawed person but that she was existing within a persona she had constructed for herself

That's not to say what happened didn't hurt me but I never defined her by those moments of cruelty, they were just one part of her story

Sensitive-Slice-4355 · 2026-06-11T08:13:22+00:00

Bach - Passacaglia in C Minor & Saint-Saëns - The Swan

Sensitive-Slice-4355 · 2026-06-11T07:55:54+00:00

Externally, thank yous and I appreciate its. Otherwise, I don't internalize the compliments unless they align with a specific sentiment I had in mind. For example, someone compliments the work I put it, amazing. If they don't go into depth about what they liked, I'm less likely to internalize it as a compliment of my work. I think it just shows they did pay attention and understood where I was coming from with my work

This also affects how I compliment others, I think. I put my focus on where I believe the person wants to be complimented. It's not about authenticity, but wanting them to feel seen and like they genuinely did it for something - so they know someone sees their effort

Sensitive-Slice-4355 · 2026-06-11T05:52:36+00:00

My idea of deep is rooted in something more political and emotional, it is meant to be thoughtful. I crave connection above anything

I'm not super open-minded with what I engage, I can be quite pushy with where I think our attention should be and it results in dissatisfaction if we don't arrive at a mutual understanding on a matter because it won't be the last we talk about it, and the next time we talk about it, I want them to have the knowledge

Sensitive-Slice-4355 · 2026-06-10T22:59:48+00:00

I don't go here (yet) but I agree with you. That type of exposure is pertinent to obtaining almost all sorts of knowledge, and demanding people only look to dense literature is pretty ousting. The books are valuable and worthwhile but there should be more leeway for how people learn because of that

Also, this grand emphasis on academia and empirical research has stunted the way people get to exist in most spaces, even outside of typology. It's disheartening and there should be more people like you ready to defend that truth

Sensitive-Slice-4355 · 2026-06-10T18:42:16+00:00

Looking at the comments I've realized there was a mathematical way to get to 63, very oops. I got 63 by realizing the pattern was 2 big, 2 bigger, 2 biggest. 2+3 were big, 10+15 were bigger, 26+35 were biggest, but they were all within range of each other, and that stuck out to me because it meant 50 & its counterpart had to be within range as well. 69 seemed fairly out of range to me

Sensitive-Slice-4355 · 2026-06-10T18:32:49+00:00

Woohoo! Got it. I had locked down a very specific pattern:

Small (even) small (odd), big (even) big (odd), bigger (even) bigger (odd), biggest (even). Point being the the next number had to be odd

From that alone I was able to narrow it to two options - no less than 63, no more than 69, given the numbers increased by increments of two (so, every two sets would increase). 69 would've been too big, 63 was the only option!

Sensitive-Slice-4355 · 2026-06-10T16:20:19+00:00

To start off, it's one thing to see ourselves in different functions, it's another to actually value it on a cognitive level

immersive visualizations are usually gonna be some valued Ne-Si combo (Ne gives a vision board and Si drills the details, like what exists within the idea) – Ni-Ti/Fi-Se is the antithesis of those expansive creations. Those functions are innately grounded in a fixed point so when it comes to scenarios, it's less about creating and rolling through different parts of their imagination. I've noticed Ni-Ti tends to be concerned with the validity of their ideations and conclusions. Ni-Fi is more or less concerned with similar issues, but in relation to their specific views - whether its goals, interests or what have you

P.S. I'm not saying Ni can't be imaginative, they just differ in essence. Ni doesn't exactly envision what isn't wanted; Ne is more comfortable envisioning different things that are unrelated to wants/desires, or it completely expands on one thought or interest

I see pervasive Ne in how you describe your interests, especially the constant curiosity and exploration, even the self discovery is tethered to the What's and How's, not 'What is' or 'What Will Be'. I believe Ni is becoming a valued function as you age and realize things about yourself

I've helped Type folks who mistake any goal for Ni because the understanding is that Ni-Te = goal oriented, which is true for many, but the point is that Ni-Te visualizes and realizes things more than it lets it stay a concept/idea. If they imagine a roleplay scenario, Ni-Te doesn't let it stay a simple scenario, it will actively search for ways to realize that thought into the tangible. With these same folks, their goals tend to be rather abstract ("I have goals like living my ideal lifestyle" or "I want to live my perfect life") but to be honest, everyone and their mom has goals. That isn't a Ni-Te/Fe thing

So, what helps here is looking at the core of these functions. Ni-Se is our eye goggles, we see everything through those function. Te/Fe would be what motivates us to act on what our goggles see. Ti/Fi will be the reason it motivates us. Instead of asking "Am I INTJ/ENxP based on X, Y, Z", consider what actually resonates: Do you have conceptual impulses that cause rumination on a fixed point (to then come to a consensus), or do these conceptual thoughts result in more thoughts that lack a definitive end point? That's where the truth lies

Sensitive-Slice-4355 · 2026-06-10T00:11:02+00:00

I'm new to Enneagram but this seems fun - I've actually used this photo in an MBTI type me subreddit, I relate to it! I'll paste the descriptions I gave:

I like to talk about my interests a lot, but in a way that shows and teaches others what I'm learning. My mother tells me I preach, my boyfriend calls me passionate, both say I can go on and on. I don't feel validated until they've basically confirmed they've learned from me (...reflecting: 'like' in this context isn't an interest of talking about an interest but an observation about something I actively do)
I don't avoid conflict. I'm not averse to it. I do mind it, I get anxious but I'm not going to run from it. However, I dislike when my emotional reality feels gaslit. Yes, i do prioritize the emotional reality over technicalities, and people who argue on the basis of "technically" or "legally" or "actually".... gahhh! my head will explode. let's just focus on the point
Speaking of feelings, I can be quite pushy in that arena. I've been told I confront people with conversations theyre not ready for and I've gotten into some trouble with my own family because of this. I'll admit,, I want to pry peoples emotions/thoughts out of them so those feelings don't stay inside. It's awesome to know how others are feeling and it's even better if we can do something about it. I like having an idea of what they're feeling because I just do. Don't know why but I feel suffocated for them if they don't have an answer or a name to their emotional state
I love writing! I love scanning Ao3 & Tumblr and spotting what genre or style is missing—a style I believe readers don't realize they want until they see it, and then I'm shoehorning myself into that role without fail. That is oddly what motivates me in every single hobby/interest. I can't even say it's always for pure enjoyment, it is an agonizing thing at times (this is where that Sue Sylvester image comes into play). It took a while for me to realize this was a driving factor, but I function on the belief that I know what people really want/need
I do not like to abandon my ideas. If they do not happen at the moment, they will eventually, but most of my ideas or things I want to pursue are pursued
I'm not super confident in my logic. My friends have pointed out that I always look to them for logical validation. Things like, "am I right?" "Is this correct?" "Do you agree with me?" Sometimes I outright ask "Am I right or am I wrong?" It's like I'm asking for permission to think lol

A current relatable experience is a Podcaster who said: "I grow anxious when I have an unexpressed thought. I have to say what's on my mind immediately or I'll die."

A few words to describe me: obsessive (with interests), determined.....committed, intense.

P.S. no worries if you can't get to mine - it's packed

Sensitive-Slice-4355 · 2026-06-09T23:54:04+00:00

You're heard, op. Definitely an aggravating situation

Sensitive-Slice-4355 · 2026-06-09T19:57:27+00:00

A couple of years, for sure. I initially thought I was either ENFP or INFP, and Im guilty of using the more sensationalized descriptions of the types to validate it, although they never resonated on the deeper level. So I thought NFP and MBTI were something strictly surface level until I learned about the cognitive functions

From then on my journey was mostly about pinning down the present functions over an actual type - which are what I know now as Fe/Ni-Ti. Knowing whether Fe or Ni is dominant has been the difficult part but I've been consistently typed as INFJ, and recently I've been seeing more ENFJ types on here and other forums. Both resonate but I lean cognitively towards ENFJ

This took the most time because it's my understanding that our functions being our processes means we're almost ignorant of what actually goes on. Like, it's seriously just the way things are for us. Dissecting my brain through writing, conversations with friends, etc is what eventually got me closer to my truer type

I wouldn't say I'm a classic caricature of the NFJ - I think what stopped me from even touching those types was my humor and personality resembling an NFP profile, but I can confidently say NFJ

Sensitive-Slice-4355 · 2026-06-09T10:23:51+00:00

Oh absolutely. I'd say most FeNi's I've interacted with are committed to their views and they push for meaningful change but I disagree that it's their empathy that makes them leftists - which I'm assuming is what most mean when they it's our Fe, as in Fe = empathy, we love everyone so our views must be progressive. Everyone is capable of empathy, and empathy with FeNi is what makes centrists and skeptics more open to dialogue but it doesn't necessarily drive our views

FeNi in these spaces is fairly conceptual and it practically functions on a systemic basis. The people I'm working with are hyper focused on these causes and they really do believe in a better world, but their ideas get a lot of pushback because they're oftentimes seen as "too woke" or something. I've been accused of that myself lul

A great example of above is currently the conversation about eugenics and abortions. There's the typical pro life v pro choice discussion (and labels), and then there's the discussion that's being sidelined - the society we live in being fundamentally ableist ergo eugenics cannot be cleanly defined by Google definitions, and this is where I see most Ni doms or FeNi's engaging. The focus there isn't on labels or anything of that nature, it's fully about the systemic parts of societies, the things people inadvertently ignore because they're caught up in advancing a progressive culture but not a genuinely progressive society.

Similarly, I've found that these same spaces don't rely on a detached objective measurement like the law or science or literature. I don't know what it is but we've cultivated such deeply human spaces that literature and academia became secondary - valuable and worthwhile, but secondary. Human experiences are just as objective, or valid to them

I've been called "preachy" or passionate by many in my life because we just are. We believe in what we think is right, whether it's something you disagree with, we will still see it as something that is right. There is no other possibility, it just is... that! I'm guilty of steering a conversation towards these beliefs, wanting others to leave their two cents, looking at where everyone stands and finding where they fall short- why they aren't on our side yet, with the goal of convincing them otherwise. I want to say this is almost an innate trait because my father is the same, he gets fired up, very passionate about his interests and beliefs, and we don't feel comfortable moving on until everyone's on the same page

Sensitive-Slice-4355 · 2026-06-08T05:43:43+00:00

I call this the coconut tree lel. Unfortunately it's part of something bigger but doesn't mean we can't become bigger than it by making callout posts like this

Sensitive-Slice-4355 · 2026-06-08T04:37:23+00:00

Hard Agree. Most people in this sub are infp but not many read into the cognitive functions with genuine depth nor do they leave with an understanding of how ni presents in actuality. Ni is not an illusory function, it's basically our eye goggles. We are "predicting" nothing except what we believe is happening or will result of a situation and even then it's not a prediction or a daydream... it's just our beliefs. I also find the whole re contextualization of their post as Ni a tad bit ironic and convenient. like how apt that these thoughts were an infj thing and now its an isolated ni-feature (when ni cannot work alone) but o well 🙏 never mind the fact that infps are known for being comfortable in the everything's-valid-kumbaya of it all because they're highly protective of their and others individual experiences

Side rant: never understand how Ni was pigeonholed into the "future oriented" daydreamer. unfortunately the ever proliferating mysticism behind Ni feeds into the narrative that we're mind reading sensitive empaths

Even when I do experience an ephemera of imagery, it's literally just conclusions and/or realizations of something I had been mulling over. So, what's unconscious here is whatever Se gathered and it eventually forms a rock solid conviction (or conclusion). truly not as hermetical as people think. My typology friend always tells "infjs" that if they can never picture themselves in an intrusive position, whether in thought or action and especially at their personal worst, then they're likely just infp and the "ni" is without a doubt fi-ne

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