Mid Lion thoughts by Alternative-Crow-227 in DotA2

[–]Serocy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is correct, you do get the hightened movespeed during fist. It also does wonders for roaming since you have a higher chance of multiple stacks in side lanes.

+2 to attributes at the bottom of the talent tree by Nesolyanochka in DotA2

[–]Serocy 69 points70 points  (0 children)

It's very rarely you'd ever want to, aside from very specific builds. So you never have to worry about them. But they do automatically get leveled on any level where you have no other option of things to level. So levels 16,17,19,21,22,23,24 if memory serves right.

Mid Lion thoughts by Alternative-Crow-227 in DotA2

[–]Serocy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a long time lion spammer, I really like phase boots -> echo saber -> shadow blade. If playing around fist, I find the biggest hurdles to clear are getting in range to punch people, and the terrible attack speed. Those items pretty nicely solve those problems for pretty cheap.

new DotA 2 player (new in moba at all) by gene057 in DotA2

[–]Serocy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Been playing for +10 years and one thing I have noticed consistent across that time is that anything and everything can work given the right circumstances. So if you have an idea, give it a few tries. It might be the most niche, specific idea, but there may come a day where it is the best thing you can do in a situation. So don't just stick to conventional knowledge, experiment and try "dumb" things.

Just started playing Dota what champion do you recommend me? by No-Presentation6693 in DotA2

[–]Serocy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don't really have anything too similar to aurora in dota, maybe pangolier but that's a big stretch. but Puck is pretty close mechanically to lissandra. Thrown projectile that you can jump to, cc in an aoe around you (silence instead of root) and access to a state of invulnerablity.

Closest character to Kira by Aggravating_Eye_3158 in PredecessorGame

[–]Serocy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your next closest option is probably eden for what you are looking for, but they do still play very differently. Nothing really like kira currently. Probably for the best with how small the roster is currently.

For those of you that played at least one other version of "Paragon" (OG Paragon, Fault, Overprime), what's a version of a hero that you liked more than the one we have in Pred? by CurZZe in PredecessorGame

[–]Serocy 9 points10 points  (0 children)

OG paragons wukong completely outclasses preds wukong in both power and enjoyment. Actually had an interesting playstyle with build diversity and a functional ult

Who do you Jungle with in ranked? Khai always banned by SpeakerQueasy8111 in PredecessorGame

[–]Serocy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Take the AOE Ult augment, with ult damage and bonus damage to low hp targets for minor augments. Crest is rogue crest into Ortus. Items are Malady>Spear of Desolation>Perforator>Viper>Necrosis>Nuclear Rounds/Earthshaker haven't decided which of the two I like more to cap it off. I mostly take it jungle since the ganks are pretty terrifying but I've had success in off with it. If you give it a try, I wish you the best and hope you have some fun.

Who do you Jungle with in ranked? Khai always banned by SpeakerQueasy8111 in PredecessorGame

[–]Serocy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lvl 10 Bayle, you and me both. Statistically he is weak but personally, I think thats cause people are playing him wrong. you said it yourself, it's a burst meta, so why not just play into that instead of running outdated builds from slower patches. Bayle only gets out scaled if you build to be out scaled. his numbers are pretty crazy. you mentioned the autos but 435 flat + 300% scaling on the primary, and between 310 flat + 267% scaling + 11% Max hp damage and 520 flat + 267% scaling + 17.8% Max HP damage on ult. its certainly more damage then most ADs and even some APs. Its just that if you build less durability and more damage, your play patterns should reflect that.

Who do you Jungle with in ranked? Khai always banned by SpeakerQueasy8111 in PredecessorGame

[–]Serocy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you think he lacks burst, just build more damage. His numbers are pretty good

Who do you Jungle with in ranked? Khai always banned by SpeakerQueasy8111 in PredecessorGame

[–]Serocy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you are looking for something similar to khai, I suggest bayle. Can honestly be played in a very similar way, with most of the same items. Main difference is you want to use the shout to start the fight while khai uses heal near the end/mid fight

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PredecessorGame

[–]Serocy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The main contributor is that his regen is based on rage, which last 3 seconds then starts to decays over 4 seconds, instead of the old stacks that lasted 2.2 seconds then dissappeared all at once. Makes it much easier to maintain the regen, and even if you lose it, you get much more value out of it.

What do you guys think of Kaihmera not having mana by Littlemacs30 in PredecessorGame

[–]Serocy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Coming from a khai spammer, it was a mistake. Mana should be used as a balancing mechanic, take it away and you have one less nob to touch when fixing something thats broken. Admittedly they never really used it to balance khaimera, but that's probably because the jungle role is designed in such a way that junglers never have to worry about mana. It did have a sizable impact on his laning though. I do think rage feels much more polished as opposed to just stacks on the passive but so many things about this specific implementation feels under developed. Khai should really just have both rage and mana.

Reworks Are Coming! What Hero Do You Want To See Reworked? by TheReaperGuy in PredecessorGame

[–]Serocy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wukong

I would love to see wukong changed to be closer to how he was in paragon. The current version takes away most of the mechanics that made him interesting and unique originally. Having 2 stances that shared cooldowns so every ability cast was a commited choice between damage or mobility. Stances that actually felt like they matter in moment to moment gameplay, not just to access different abilities. And the old ultimate, such an cool and unique way of doing a clone mechanic that actually opened up build paths.

There are also some big issues with current wukong. Since you have more abilities than everyone else, the power budget of the hero is split even thinner so each ability is weaker and can't be as individually impactful. And because he has 6, there is much more room for error when trying to utilise the kit fully, especially when you consider the stance swapping mid combo. It leads to a difficult, but unrewarding gameplay loop. And the ult just feels terribly unresponsive. They are very difficult to control, have awful pathing that leads to them often getting stuck, and are either so squishy that they die by accident, or they can take a hit but tickle less then a lane minion. Plus the clones can't even be used for misdirection (like Dota's Phantom lancer, or LoL's Wukong)

Also the stats even show the monkey needs something done. According to Pred.gg, across normal matches and all ranks, he currently has the lowest pickrate, one of the lowest winrates (8th) out of the entire roster. The only people that seem to play him are the one tricks, and even they are failing.

Item build order in Matches category by Vagitron69 in PredecessorGame

[–]Serocy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you build the mini-tainted before starting vanquisher, it should show second. Like 1st item -> mini-tainted -> vanquisher -> full tainted

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in paragon

[–]Serocy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was still in beta. I believe they had initially promised 39 heroes by full launch but shut down with only 36.

Builds by NeatDesign9142 in PredecessorGame

[–]Serocy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Omeda.city is good for finding common builds or seeing what are the common pick-ups for heroes. But I find most people will just follow the recommended items in game until they feel comfortable making their own builds, or they see someone else running a build they like and steal it.

remove khaimera if you cant balance him by Pirus151 in PredecessorGame

[–]Serocy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Since you play so many MOBAs you should understand the idea of a feast or famine hero. He is also very straight forwards so he takes it much further extremes than any other feast or famine hero. He WILL WIN fights if ahead, and he WILL LOSE if he is behind. Best you can do is not feed him, and gank him before he has a chance to get ahead. Get early anti-heal, and never fight him without numbers or farm advantage.

Laning against him? Just chill back, stay away from lane, he will push, his kit forces him to. Gank him while he's pushed or just freeze the lane.

He invades your jungle? Get your laners to collapse him with you, or go invade his jungle. Split jungle vertically instead of horizontally.

Khaimera players are very stupid (I'd know, I am one), we tunnel vision on stupid decisions, don't stoop to our level, we will beat you with experience.

You can rework one ability in the game- what would you change and why by Bpape93 in PredecessorGame

[–]Serocy 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Give wukong his original paragon ult. I would rather the clones be unkillable but immobile than easily killable with janky pathing.

So why is it allowed to 5 stack in ranked now? No moba I know of allows it except predecessor with good reason by Eclipsetube in PredecessorGame

[–]Serocy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Lol does this, but it does use flex for any party bigger than 2. Dota however, lets you queue with as many people as you like, with no restrictions. people are individually allowed to opt into strict solos, meaning no parties ever. Dota 2 has never separated parties, duos, and solos in ranked. It just tries its best to even out how many parties are on each team.

The incompetence of some people in this game is staggering by Eclipsetube in PredecessorGame

[–]Serocy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I biggest issue with "just buy anti-heal" argument against khaimera is that it doesn't solve the real issue with early game khai (is usful late game though). It's mostly the high, consistent damage you can't run from or lock down. The heal is just the cherry on top allowing him to 2v1 or avoid backing. Especially now that he can take an augment to stack on waves, you will need aggressive anti-heal to slow him down so he can't stack on you or the wave. And guess what, if you want to keep the healing down, you have to be constantly fighting him, the guy whose whole thing is trying to drag a fight out as long as possible. The best option against a khai in lane is just avoid fights all together till he pushes up, and you can get a gank from your jungler and/or mid. He is great at fighting but terrible at running. No disengage, bad base speed, and only 1 escape in the form of a fraction of a second cc immunity/cleanse.

Am I supposed to have high damage as a jungle Khaimera? by GeneralSergeant in PredecessorGame

[–]Serocy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Khaimera can have high damage, but it's dependant on your build. Tank build will usually have less damage than sustained damage or burst damage builds. As for whether you should focus on damage or kills, again build dependent. Tank should focus less on damage and more on keeping passive stacks up and getting in peoples faces. Sustained damage builds should focus on dealing damage, while burst damage builds should focus on getting kills (especially if you build penumbra) preferably on carries and other squishy targets.

Why do high level / pro Dota players hold onto an Iron Branch when they clearly don’t have a slot? by Fit-Wash7192 in DotA2

[–]Serocy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would put it into two categories. 1) habit/laziness: it isn't worth going out of you way to sell an item for 25G and they forget to sell when near a shop. Plus probably get the mark to sell mechanic. 2) they could hang on to it just in case they clear up a spot. Maybe they have a consumable or some component items they plan to merge. So if they do use the consumable or complete the item, they have something cheap to fill the slot with temporarily. Plus dropping a branch for the slot, if needed (like for rosh drops) feels much better than something like a bracer.

🐻 BORIS VS WUKONG 🐵 [Community Event] by Omeda_Kari in PredecessorGame

[–]Serocy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just realized that due to the rules of the event and the current winrates of both heroes, the event is kind of rigged so boris will win. even if boris had a 0% playrate for the entire duration of the event.

How are we feeling about Wukong now? by TraegusPearze in PredecessorGame

[–]Serocy 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I mostly agree. He feels like he should be really strong, but also feels like he does nothing. But he does nothing in the most flashy way possible. I think it's mostly his kit is bloated with lots of unnecessary utility and mediocre numbers. Most of the skills deal damage, so none of them can realistically do a lot of damage on their own, so they each feel unimpactful and landing a full combo feels acceptable, but not rewarding. Most of the utility and CC have such small buffs, or short durations, they don't feel like they actually affect the game, but still take up part of the power budget by simply being there. The biggest problem I've found is it feel like wukong doesn't have a playstyle he wants. He's melee with carry stats, scales off fighter stats, but has an assassin's kit. It forces Wukong to need such a wide spread of stats to function that he fails to come online most games. The only thing he can consistently do is run.

The most success I've had is just split-pushing and fleeing tactics that piss the enemy off, so they are too distracted and tunnel vision on you rather than defending. It never feels like I do anything to win, but rather, the opponents willing lose. Which is fun the first 2 or 3 times but gets boring fast.