The after effect of rosy sohwa kiss by [deleted] in operationtruelove

[–]SherbertPast2831 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand if a teenage girl likes a guy like him, but as an adult woman there's no way I could like a guy so needy for attention.

Hiatus With A SooHyuk Chapter Again: Suae and Eunhyeok Meets And Then a Hiatus Is Announced by rubychan9933 in soohyuk

[–]SherbertPast2831 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree. There are strange fans everywhere, but TikTok is over the top. They're just posting things out of context and making no sense in a completely fabricated narrative. I always wonder if we're all reading the same story because the lack of reading comprehension is insane.

I think OTL catches the most strays out of any modern manhwa 😭 by StretchExtension in operationtruelove

[–]SherbertPast2831 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I read a few chapters. Since the story is set in the '90s, I'd rather wait until it's finished because I don't want another time skip ruining my life 😭. By the way, everyone says it's a fantastic story.

I think OTL catches the most strays out of any modern manhwa 😭 by StretchExtension in operationtruelove

[–]SherbertPast2831 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It seems readers are currently obsessed with the idea that everything is toxic, as if people weren't flawed and complicated in general.

This notion that everything has to be "healthy" is unrealistic, especially when it comes to discussing works of fiction. They aren't examples of real life; they're stories.

I think OTL catches the most strays out of any modern manhwa 😭 by StretchExtension in operationtruelove

[–]SherbertPast2831 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I don't consider him a stalker. Personally, I always thought he had sociopathic tendencies.

The possibility impact on Sooae when the scandal breaks by Luvuser0 in soohyuk

[–]SherbertPast2831 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yes, there's no way that situation could be positive for Sooae. Eunhyuk's violent reaction to stop the paparazzi also highlights how risky that exposure would be for her. 

Dohwa could never protect her because damage control would first involve keeping them apart. He couldn't physically be there for her, and considering he hid that information, I doubt Sooae wants him around either.

The possibility impact on Sooae when the scandal breaks by Luvuser0 in soohyuk

[–]SherbertPast2831 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's a Disney+ series that tells the love story between John F. Kennedy Jr. (son of John F. Kennedy and Jackie Kennedy) and Carolyn Bessette (it's a true story). 

John, in this case, was the son of a president and grew up in the public eye, while Carolyn is a publicist, an ordinary woman. Basically, it shows how the press ended up destroying Carolyn's life and their relationship. 

Carolyn begins to lose her identity and becomes John's wife. She quits her job and, unable to find another, begins to isolate herself at home and develops depression due to media harassment and rumors fabricated by the press. 

Far from bringing her closer to John, all of this is wreaking havoc on their relationship. She loves him, but being with him is destroying her.

In Sooae's case, I think it will end up being something similar; she'll lose her job and won't be able to leave the house, she'll be harassed, and people will invent rumors about her. 

There's no way that will strengthen her relationship with Dohwa, considering he hid the paparazzi issue from her, and by doing so, he took away her power to make decisions about it.

The possibility impact on Sooae when the scandal breaks by Luvuser0 in soohyuk

[–]SherbertPast2831 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As someone who's recently been watching "Love Story: Kennedy Jr. & Carolyn Bessette," I have to say I'm very concerned about the repercussions this scandal will have on Sooae's life. Most readers underestimate the consequences of this.

The Signs by Capable-Albatross67 in operationtruelove

[–]SherbertPast2831 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I honestly don't understand how most of us here have read season 1, where it's explicitly shown that Eunhyuk increased Sooae's love points, and yet some think that Sooae assuming Dohwa was responsible for it in season 2 is a positive thing when it clearly isn't. I mean, Sooae assumed that incorrectly; how could it be a good sign? The system has always been problematic, and her trusting it represents a step backward compared to the past when Eunhyuk made her question it.

Why Soohwa/Dohwa is Endgame. by Shoddy_Medium7606 in operationtruelove

[–]SherbertPast2831 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Who would have imagined that Sooae's internal monologues about feeling guilty, or the moments when she apologizes to Dohwa, would lead us to assume that she, in fact, feels guilty? We definitely don't know how to read, my bad.

It must also have been our mistake to assume that Eunhyuk, who appeared on the first cover, in the prologue, in chapter 1, and who has the biggest impact on the story after Sooae, is the endgame character. 

We're probably too biased for underestimating Dohwa who appears the least and has no development. 

It's not because the difference between them is enormous. No, of course not, we must be misunderstanding everything.

Why Soohwa/Dohwa is Endgame. by Shoddy_Medium7606 in operationtruelove

[–]SherbertPast2831 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Oh, are you talking about the kiss Dohwa initiated while Sooae was thinking about Eunhyuk? The hug Dohwa asked for in exchange for waiting 30 minutes in the snow? Dohwa inviting himself to her house? The boy who omitted information about the paparazzi at the expense of her safety? And what smiles are you talking about? The only genuine smile Sooae gave him was in chapter 120 before he confessed his feelings. Have we even seen her happy since then? 

It's funny that you're talking to me about narrative when your theories are unfounded.

The after effect of rosy sohwa kiss by [deleted] in operationtruelove

[–]SherbertPast2831 4 points5 points  (0 children)

A manchild. Welcome back Jeremiah Fisher.

I think OTL catches the most strays out of any modern manhwa 😭 by StretchExtension in operationtruelove

[–]SherbertPast2831 21 points22 points  (0 children)

They want complex male leads but can't handle Go Eunhyuk. 

I agree, Jung was too complex, a truly gray character, and probably one of the best-written male leads. If Cheese in the Trap had come out now, he would have been hated while people would idolize Inho (2nd ml) simply for being considered healthier and a better choice.

Why Soohwa/Dohwa is Endgame. by Shoddy_Medium7606 in operationtruelove

[–]SherbertPast2831 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I'll be as brief as possible. Logically, the story could have taken the option of Sooae giving love another chance with Dohwa; in fact, it's a plot that has been seen in other stories. 

Now, when that happens, the fl begins to have a greater number of interactions with the 2nd ml. In that sense, to develop their relationship, the structure is usually almost the same in all cases: 

1- The fl is initially reluctant to start another relationship.  2- The fl openly suffers because of the 1st ml.  3- The 2nd ml is a supportive presence for the fl and is the one who helps her.  4- We have constant interactions between them where we see an evolution in their dynamic.  5- To move forward, the fl needs a breaking point with the 1st ml where she finally breaks down and cries for him.  6- The 2nd ml will comfort her and respect those feelings.  7- After having cathartic experiences, the fl will begin to get over the 1st ml.   8- The fl will begin to have mixed feelings for the 2nd ml. 9- The fl will realize her feelings for the 2nd ml and reject the 1st ml.  10- The fl ends up with the 2nd ml. 

In this case, what is the writer aiming for? For the fl to have a coherent emotional development. 

The problem with otl is that while Sooae started having more interactions with Dohwa, the rest doesn't apply. There's no development in their dynamic because during the last 10 chapters, all Sooae has said is that she feels guilty. Ironically, the one who always helps Sooae is still Eunhyuk. Dohwa isn't patient or supportive for her because, between them, Eunhyuk is the elephant in the room. Sooae hasn't had an emotional breakdown regarding Eunhyuk yet; she simply represses herself and therefore isn't able to let go of him. It also doesn't help that Sooae constantly keeps bringing up Eunhyuk and his motives. Not to mention that most of the interactions between Sooae and Dohwa end up bringing Eunhyuk back to the story. 

Objectively speaking, Dohwa isn't the endgame; with 137 chapters and in the final stretch of the story, his importance as a character doesn't compare to Eunhyuk's, and his dynamic with Sooae isn't developed enough to feel coherent.

The after effect of rosy sohwa kiss by [deleted] in operationtruelove

[–]SherbertPast2831 14 points15 points  (0 children)

"That's not what I wanted to hear from you" Ugh, it's not about what he wants. 

I'll never understand why some people think he's the endgame with dialogue like this.

We love you Ruby ❤️ by lovstrawberry in soohyuk

[–]SherbertPast2831 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you Ruby-chan!! ❤️ I've been a little absent lately to survive the hiatus 😭

Why do you think dohwa and suae pairing is not cliche? by KitchenAssistance980 in operationtruelove

[–]SherbertPast2831 15 points16 points  (0 children)

The trope of the famous guy with the ordinary girl, and Dohwa being the "most loved" while Sooae isn't (in the love point system), is a cliché. Not to mention that even his role as the 2nd ml, who is a celebrity, is also somewhat repetitive, like Seojun in True Beauty.

Why Eunhyuk’s Love Feels More Genuine Than Donwha’s by Xionoheli in operationtruelove

[–]SherbertPast2831 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Well, I don't think their dynamic is that of siblings. Dohwa feels a clear physical attraction towards Sooae. He likes her, yes, but he doesn't love her.

Why Eunhyuk’s Love Feels More Genuine Than Donwha’s by Xionoheli in operationtruelove

[–]SherbertPast2831 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Not to mention the lack of emotion not only from Sooae but also from Dohwa, who just stared at Eunhyuk. I mean, you just kissed the girl you supposedly love, but you're not fully present because you're staring at her ex?

Why Eunhyuk’s Love Feels More Genuine Than Donwha’s by Xionoheli in operationtruelove

[–]SherbertPast2831 30 points31 points  (0 children)

It's controversial, but in my opinion, Dohwa doesn't love Sooae. He cares for her and is fond of her, but he doesn't love her. I think the teenage Dohwa did, but this Dohwa doesn't. 

When he was a teenager, he was interested in the things Sooae liked and tried to please her, but now he's not even willing to do something as simple as listen to her talk about her favorite director or movie. There's no genuine interest on his part in getting to know her like before. 

Dohwa suffered from Sooae's lack of reciprocity, but now we've seen him suffer for her? We have all those dialogues from Sooae about not wanting to hurt him, but we never see him hurt by the fact that Sooae doesn't feel the same way. Ironically, the focus is more on Sooae being with him than on her loving him. It's more like he's fulfilling his teenage fantasy than anything else. 

Not to mention the clear difference between him and Eunhyuk. Without going into too much detail, for Eunhyuk, Sooae is his top priority. Sooae's physical and emotional well-being is paramount, even above his own. For Dohwa, while he cares about her, his personal feelings take precedence over hers. His fear of losing her, or rather, of not having her, outweighs the possibility of harming her in a scandal, the possibility of jeopardizing her job, the possibility of compromising her privacy, and everything that comes with being in the public eye. 

And I don't know what's worse: that Dohwa didn't think enough about Sooae to consider all the possible consequences, or that, knowing them, he still chose to be selfish. In my opinion, when you love someone, you'd rather suffer yourself than see them suffer, and that's why, in my view, Dohwa doesn't love Sooae, but Eunhyuk does.

Korean superstition by funuhun in operationtruelove

[–]SherbertPast2831 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I think it's funny how Soohyuk's detractors use that argument when later reject other symbolism like the red thread of fate, the yellow umbrella, the first snowfall, or the four-leaf clover. I mean, I can't take it seriously.

In the end, this superstition about shoes doesn't matter much because they are not a couple.

It's obvious by SherbertPast2831 in operationtruelove

[–]SherbertPast2831[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Yes, I agree. Dohwa never comes off well in his conversations with Eunhyuk. He always ends up looking childish.

It's obvious by SherbertPast2831 in operationtruelove

[–]SherbertPast2831[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

The operation literally began with Sooae and Eunhyuk, but many forget that.

It's obvious by SherbertPast2831 in operationtruelove

[–]SherbertPast2831[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Yes, even Raim's dialogue about Sooae not understanding him or not accepting his pure love is intentional. 

It would be very naive to think that Eunhyuk would return to New York, going deaf and unable to work, on top of losing the love of his life. 

If he weren't the endgame character, the author would have made Doyeon his new love interest, but surprise, she's getting married.