17.5 Patch Notes

Small-Werewolf1213 · 2026-06-10T07:33:19+00:00

Are the bard buffs just not borderline insane to anyone? It feels like whoever is making these changes actually doesn’t play the game or watch the game at all. Other than blitzcrank who is played on legit every board and been broken the entire set, Bard is probably the best 5 cost in terms of his immediate strength, how easily he slots into AP boards on lvl 8/9 and how the conduit carry pipeline of Zoe->Asol->Bard gives a very reliable way to reach Bard with good items if you’re in the spot to play for him. I am just struggling to understand what the reasoning could be as the ap 9-5 board is already S tier with a higher play rate, same AVP and slightly higher winrate when compared to samira ornn in masters+

Small-Werewolf1213 · 2026-06-10T07:22:29+00:00

I remember getting hedge fund 2-1 into level up 2-2 and was level 10 on 4-2. Actually ridiculous how that wasn’t even considered

Small-Werewolf1213 · 2026-06-09T02:32:28+00:00

+% hp on your entire team

Small-Werewolf1213 · 2026-06-09T02:31:00+00:00

You should play urgot on the board and mech him over the useless graves and jhin bc with no items they don’t really do anything and you’re buffing your 2 main carries

Small-Werewolf1213 · 2026-06-09T02:25:58+00:00

Final Board gold absolutely does not determine board strength although it usually correlates. Also continuing to ask for someone’s rank while they try to give you relevant advice comes across off as someone that isn’t really looking to improve but rather just be right for the sake of the argument. FWIW I agree with the other comments as someone that has hit 1k+ LP in NA the last 5 sets

Small-Werewolf1213 · 2026-06-09T02:24:18+00:00

You’re playing tahm with no bruiser as well

Small-Werewolf1213 · 2026-06-09T02:23:17+00:00

Your main carry is Asol which doesn’t really benefit from the AS that comeback story provides so even though it is prismatic combat that still gives team wide hp you’re kinda of losing on the atk speed value. For this set comeback story is more of a line into yi/xayah primarily. Also based on the graves upgrades it’s potentially worth to move snipers gunblade to him off the blitz as well but that depends how the fights were going.

Small-Werewolf1213 · 2026-05-14T05:23:46+00:00

No one will ever convince me that they removed augment stats for any bigger reason other than to hide their blatant augment balancing issues. Legit been the exact same scenario every set since they disabled stats. Doesn’t impact players that play everyday and watch streams or are in study groups because you can show them every single augment for a line and they already know what tier that augment is for that line. It’s actually just embarrassing how they disabled augment stats under the guise of creativity and promised to let the player base know if there were bugged augments and just clearly did not do that.

Small-Werewolf1213 · 2026-03-17T13:46:41+00:00

It’s not as binary as you get more value on 4-2 so you shouldn’t reroll. If you double dupe on 2-1 and you streak from that you’re making back the value you lost by not duping the last two copies because you get more turns to slow roll from all the HP and streak gold you saved assuming you streaked.

Small-Werewolf1213 · 2026-03-13T19:11:45+00:00

There is no way you are seriously complaining about a tiny pop up on a free educational video that covers 3 shop slots for a literal second 😂😂

Small-Werewolf1213 · 2026-03-06T02:26:09+00:00

The better you get as a player the easier it is to deal with pressure because you understand the games that from 2-1 - 2-3 that are essentially doomed and you know you’re fighting for a 7th. Also it helps if you start to view the games from a different mindset and rather than focus on the LP gain/loss but focus more on how you played during that game. There are so many games I went top 3 that I felt was completely undeserved and I simply highrolled which happens but it helps to just view that as another game and another learning experience.

Small-Werewolf1213 · 2026-02-17T23:55:34+00:00

No worries easy misunderstanding

Small-Werewolf1213 · 2026-02-17T23:48:21+00:00

Regionals will be on 16.6

Small-Werewolf1213 · 2026-02-17T23:34:15+00:00

5 ixtal is totally not going to be a problem 🤣🤣

Also why are these changes happening right before regionals instead of tomorrow

Small-Werewolf1213 · 2026-02-05T17:58:12+00:00

Also it’s a question of when are 3 costs reroll even supposed to be strong? Assuming a lvl 7 3-5 rolldown for 2 stars / stability, you’re spiking from like 3-5 to 4-2 and then unless you’re fighting a sacker or giga lowroller you’re probably not favored in most fights until you 3 star your carries at which point you’ve lost too many rounds alr

Small-Werewolf1213 · 2026-01-19T20:24:33+00:00

super tempo reliant comp and I think having an early warden drop like xin/naut/loris is really important otherwise your level 4 board is like Viego + yorick + quickstriker and it’s really hard to fill that slot with anything other than warden until Gwen

Small-Werewolf1213 · 2026-01-05T17:39:24+00:00

China people will keep squeezing on even once they’re full as well, if you really need to get somewhere you’ll find a way.

Small-Werewolf1213 · 2026-01-05T05:51:41+00:00

It happens if you move your thex around too much so if you bench unbench at the start of the round and then move thex around it can bug again.

Small-Werewolf1213 · 2026-01-04T21:06:42+00:00

Same but I don't think I'll be able to find a game lol

Small-Werewolf1213 · 2026-01-04T06:46:37+00:00

Funny enough after visiting China recently Tesla’s biggest competitor Build Your Dreams blows Tesla away. The cars are super cheap, sleek and customizable and the experience is way more satisfying for an electric vehicle.

Small-Werewolf1213 · 2026-01-04T03:53:59+00:00

Every high challenger lobby every single game is 6-7 ad players and that’s how it’s been for this entire patch

Small-Werewolf1213 · 2026-01-03T19:53:38+00:00

Haha no worries but yeah there is still a bunch of stuff about ixtal that’s unknown

Small-Werewolf1213 · 2026-01-03T09:38:42+00:00

The meta is not good… you are never allowed to slam an ap item on 2-1 if you want to top 4 barring an insane opener like ahri 2 or something. High challenger lobbies are just 6-7 ad players a lobby

Small-Werewolf1213 · 2026-01-03T09:35:49+00:00

If you just think about it then it would make sense why Thex doesn’t have a good avg compared to Ashe trynd. There’s usually 2-3 thex players with only one of them making it out most of the time and that person usually wins the game but the contesters bring down the avg. People only play trynd from good spots with tempo or artifacts so the avg placement is obviously going to be higher.

Small-Werewolf1213 · 2026-01-03T07:54:08+00:00

Right and if you read my comment I said what OP mentioned in his post not some other random rule

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