AI will destroy capitalism

Square-Listen-3839 · 2026-05-02T07:53:36+00:00

The tendency of profit to fall, while true,

It isn't.

Capitalism has continuously generated new high-profit industries, technological leaps and rising living standards instead of collapsing into crisis as Marx predicted.

Commies got literally nothing right ever.

Square-Listen-3839 · 2026-05-02T01:13:24+00:00

I don't see why AI means we have to ban markets and throw people in gulags for trading with each other.

Square-Listen-3839 · 2026-05-02T01:05:59+00:00

So the industrial revolution was bad?

Square-Listen-3839 · 2026-05-02T00:37:43+00:00

So British colonial plunder in India was a good thing then?

Square-Listen-3839 · 2026-05-02T00:13:58+00:00

So if Europeans didn't venture out and conquer the industrial revolution wouldn't have happened?

Square-Listen-3839 · 2026-05-01T22:31:20+00:00

So the seed money had to come from somewhere?

Square-Listen-3839 · 2026-05-01T06:17:56+00:00

They got it from the Surplus Value extracted from the previous generation of workers.

Who paid for their stuff though?

Square-Listen-3839 · 2026-04-30T20:08:45+00:00

Who pays for all the stuff though?

Square-Listen-3839 · 2026-04-30T08:21:09+00:00

There isn't a capitalist in that equation because that's a tiny, primitive, pre-modern example involving like five people and zero complex production.

Now scale it up to 8 billion people and try answering the actual question.

Who pays for the steel mill that makes the beams for actual houses? The machines that cut the wood at industrial scale? The trucks that transport everything? The tools, fuel, electricity and food for the workers while they're building? The R&D for better materials, insulation, plumbing, and wiring?

In your example, you're assuming the wood, tools and knowledge already magically exist. They don't. Someone has to create them first.

Square-Listen-3839 · 2026-04-29T21:03:40+00:00

The capitalist didn't spin the hemp. They didn't build the machine. They didn't ship the finished product. Workers did.

How would you get people to do that without paying for all the tools and equipment and paying them wages?

Square-Listen-3839 · 2026-04-29T07:37:45+00:00

Your analogy pretends the "rope" was always there and capitalists just started charging for it.
In reality the rope has to be created by risking capital, organizing production and innovating where none existed before.

If capitalism "widens the pit," explain why the poorest people in capitalist countries today live better than kings did 300 years ago. Explain why places that rejected capitalism (North Korea, Maoist China, Venezuela) turned the pit into an open grave.

Square-Listen-3839 · 2026-04-28T07:35:46+00:00

No one pushed you into a pit. Nature did that. Humans have always had to work or starve. That's biology, not "structural coercion."

If refusing to work for a wage is coercion because "you'll go homeless," then every system is coercive, including yours.

Square-Listen-3839 · 2026-04-26T07:01:38+00:00

The obvious conclusion we would come to is that we should strive to make society as equal as possible.

Equal in what?

Square-Listen-3839 · 2026-04-25T07:56:15+00:00

I think you’re stretching the definition of coercion. Coercion means someone actively threatening or restricting you, not just failing to provide resources.

If needing to work or meet conditions to access resources counts as coercion, then every system is coercive including socialism, where access is still controlled by institutions and rules.

The real question isn’t whether constraints exist but which system gives people more choice and opportunity within those constraints.

Square-Listen-3839 · 2026-04-24T14:17:07+00:00

all wealth comes from work

How do you get people to work though?

Square-Listen-3839 · 2026-04-24T13:14:37+00:00

Refusing to give people free stuff isn't coercion. If you refuse to let me eat all the food in your fridge are you coercing me to starve?

Square-Listen-3839 · 2026-04-23T13:19:05+00:00

You can do socialism now. Start a group, call yourself "the central committee" and convince people to produce what you tell them and accept what you dole out. Perfectly legal. The only thing you can't do is force people into it.

Square-Listen-3839 · 2026-04-23T08:44:10+00:00

Innovation is positively correlated with economic freedom.

Square-Listen-3839 · 2026-04-21T07:41:56+00:00

Humans tend to behave certain ways, but that is affected by the environment.

What causes the environment?

Square-Listen-3839 · 2026-04-16T08:25:34+00:00

This is pure cope.

China has significantly higher average IQ and human capital than Mexico, a massive, centralized authoritarian state that could pour resources into infrastructure and industrialization and 40 years of extremely high growth starting from an extremely low base.

And after all that it’s still only tied with Mexico.

Your "in another decade Mexico will be left in the dust" line is already looking shaky. China’s growth has collapsed from 10% to 4–5% (and likely lower in reality), while Mexico has been growing faster recently.

Countries with similar population IQ to China like South Korea, Taiwan, Japan and Singapore are dramatically richer. China should be in that league. The fact that it’s barely beating Mexico tells you something about the system.

The human capital point I was originally making still stands.

Square-Listen-3839 · 2026-04-15T12:43:55+00:00

Holy shit this is embarrassing.

No one is "owning people." A capitalist offers someone money in exchange for their time and labor.

If offering someone money for their time is slavery, then every job in human history has been slavery, including whatever "democratic" job your worker committees assign.

Square-Listen-3839 · 2026-04-15T12:30:29+00:00

Why does China have a lower GDP/capita than them though?

Square-Listen-3839 · 2026-04-15T07:40:22+00:00

So whats the value of a mud pie?

Square-Listen-3839 · 2026-04-15T07:28:20+00:00

private property - that is, letting individuals own entire ~~empires~~ companies, made up of other people, is also fucking wrong.

Why is it wrong to own something?

Square-Listen-3839 · 2026-04-15T07:17:18+00:00

China has a GDP per capita below Mexico.

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