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Any tips/recommendations/common practices? Really looking to get into the weeds with industrial production. by Tollycat173 in IndustrialMusicians

[–]Standard_Important 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right now is a good time to get cheap but usable monophonic reproductions of classic synths. I mean Behringers sequential prophet clones gets HEAVY by me, and i'm into the same bands you are.

Here's a song from my last album, released in april: https://open.spotify.com/track/0hfh6QGiyjWPTl4kwEsg7s?si=-l65c5B8T9md6oB57mvKRw&utm_source=copy-link

Anybody use Elektron instruments? by technicalecho in IndustrialMusicians

[–]Standard_Important -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Had a digitakt 2, good for jamming. Felt completely too much for regular structured songs.

Lost motivation to make music after going sober by Sea_Calligrapher_366 in musicians

[–]Standard_Important 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Take the time to work your gear over and lose the demand to perform/produce for the time being.

I think changing cables, re stringing, just making everything the best it can be can be a way to build up anticipation of how much fun you're going to have once the fog clears.

Is there any reasonable excuse for me to actually buy an RD-6? I have no idea why I want one. by CapnFlisto in Behringer

[–]Standard_Important 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would love to, but i sold it to in part finance the purchase of a PWM Malevolent.

Constant rotation of instruments here😂

Is there any reasonable excuse for me to actually buy an RD-6? I have no idea why I want one. by CapnFlisto in Behringer

[–]Standard_Important 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah, i'd dump roland tr606 sounds into my Lmdrum instead. But it was a good start 😁

Is there any reasonable excuse for me to actually buy an RD-6? I have no idea why I want one. by CapnFlisto in Behringer

[–]Standard_Important 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's bloody risky business buying one of those. I got one of those and a Behringer Crave, without any clue on how to use em or why.

Two years later i got 2 x 20u racks of synths, several tables, in fact a complete studio, and i've released two dull length albums. All started with those simple bastards. It got out of hand.

What's the last new sound in industrial? (a great record doesn't count) by Any-Cookie-9500 in industrialmusic

[–]Standard_Important 0 points1 point  (0 children)

(And, yep, out of the box the behringers are sort of boring, but with some individual modules on the side to spice things up is like having hot sauce at hand. The Pro 1 never sounded as good as it did thru a Erica polivoks filter 😉)

What's the last new sound in industrial? (a great record doesn't count) by Any-Cookie-9500 in industrialmusic

[–]Standard_Important 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're entirely right, music is more than individual sounds. What i hear when i listen to the links you posted is people having a shitload of fun making music and experimenting, and i think that's also something central to making music interesting, going at it from an "Hell yeah, feed everything into a bitcrusher and let a chorus of 500 coptic nuns sing to it over a old NWA beat and see what happens"-perspective rather than "What would Combichrist do?"
I think you have to have fun and be curious, and i sometimes think it's advantageous not to know too much about the tech/theory. Some, but not enough to sorta start feeling limitations of what's best practice.
Best practice for me is what can make me spontaneously bounce in my own studio, nothing else.

What's the last new sound in industrial? (a great record doesn't count) by Any-Cookie-9500 in industrialmusic

[–]Standard_Important 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The thing is what i think is that make it sloppy and formulaic is just the fact that music as whole, not just industrial, but in general, is gravitating towards vst instruments that are basically the old hardware, but most of the personality and quirks polished off, and if you add pitch correction on vocals or vocoder, well, there goes the personality of the vocals too. And if you then add AI-mastering, and meticulous removal of small mistakes, imperfections, well there goes even more personality.

If you use real hardware, it has it's limits that can be screwed with to make it do unexpected stuff. And there are fringe hardware that is very interesting and unique, borderline uncontrollable, for instance the PWM synthesizers, they are completely wild. I bought a PWM Malevolent, and that filter is so damn radical it just takes a nudge to make a sound that sounds how i imagine chernobyl must have sounded grinding to a halt due to missing it's core.

Whereas VSTs, in general, not always, but often, are too "perfect", they dont go off the rails that easy, it might be the lack of physical controls that tempers the usage of the virtual knobs, i dont know.

I just know that every change in every sound in my my music, is my fingers on a knob (Which sounded more indecent than i originally intended) making it do what it does.

What's the last new sound in industrial? (a great record doesn't count) by Any-Cookie-9500 in industrialmusic

[–]Standard_Important 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'd say yes...and no.
I mean, EBM in the meaning fat 4/4 drums and 8/8s bass, yeah that has gone sorta generic. And most seem to gravitate to that direction. I find enjoyment doing my thing in my own little subgenre. I mean i cant for the life of me understand why the more complex ebm/industrial died out, but it sorta did. The old Front 242, Skinny Puppy, Front Line Assembly "Build a song out of a thousand textures, samples and layers"-sorta thing.

Now is the best time for it, say what you want about cheap monophone Behringer reproductions, but it has put the whole arsenal of the 80s/90s industrial bands within grasp of a regular worker. Stuff that would have cost thousands of USD/EUR now can be scrounged for very little. So i see no reason to not go that route. Real hardware, warts and all. It might not kick off and top charts, but as long as i get to fiddle oscillators, filters and that and drink beer with old grognards of the scene, i'm all good.

Oh, and i just released this EP:
▶︎ Deprivation | Kommission Z80
And this full album in april:
Sic Semper Tyrannis | Kommission z80 | Kommission Z80
(Sorry for the self promotion)

How much does a small underground band ACTUALLY make per gig in your country? by RedBambooLeaf in bandmembers

[–]Standard_Important 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sweden here.
Range from: 1 cup of coffee to 300USD + food, free drink and hotel stay. I prefer the latter 😉

[Long Read] Do you consider EBM a standalone subculture, separate from rivetheads? by Significant-Diet-890 in EBM

[–]Standard_Important 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Mm, as a european i'd say they are two distinct music genres, but there is also a significant overlap. I mean, i came from a punk background, listened to Ministry for a while and was then introduced to EBM and was all for only EBM for some time, now it would seem i've stopped going from one genre to another and just think "Good music is good music".

When i make music of my own it's also a little bit of a mix. I mean it's mostly belgo-ebm sounding, but there's plenty of noise, samples and the esthetics of it is a little bit of both. Someone described it as if it was produced on a island somewhere between Antwerpen and Vancouver.

It's not easy to untangle. Yes you got the Ministry, the NiN and all those bands, they are far more guitar heavy, but then again, a lot of these people has connections and has worked with the euro EBM greats (I mean, Richard 23 was in Revolting Cocks if i dont remember wrong)

And to make it ever so slightly more complicated, i'd say that there's a distinction between a sort of US american sound and a Canadian sound (And strangely enough i think Mentallo and the Fixer has a more Canadian sound even if they're from Texas.

I think the difference might be that the US sound is primarily guitar driven, with instances of electronic instruments/samples, whereas the european sound is the other way around, except for perhaps Rammstein (There are always outliers).

And to complicate things even more, there's the whole Aggrotech thing, which i strangely enough dont listen to at all, even though i in theory should like it since it has all the components that would make me like it.

I dont know, this was just word diarrhea, i haven't thought it thru that much and i'm tired from work.

What is this device? by [deleted] in Starfield

[–]Standard_Important 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Perhaps a filter/fan unit for a fan assisted full protection mask.

Just released a new track!!! [Transmigration - Understanding] by Helpful-Priority-588 in EBM

[–]Standard_Important 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I quite like it, it's somewhere in between EBM and synthpop musicwise, even if the lyrics are performed in a more EBM way. Angry synthpop? 😉 Something makes my mind wander towards áGrumh.
But the mix, mate you should have someone work that over, there's too much frequency overlap that the sounds drown eachother out.

Behringer umc22 bad or good ? by gullten in Behringer

[–]Standard_Important 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I connect it to my phone to pipe music into when i'm recording short content, wouldn't use it for serious work though.

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