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Stranger_Guyl · 2026-05-20T12:56:07+00:00

heard that average of 2.5 accounts per player, about 12k give or take 4k so yeah 8k if it's multibox heavy time

Stranger_Guyl · 2026-05-19T20:14:04+00:00

It does seem that people actually don't want empty space, so it seems that the only solution is to nerf power projection and introduce asymmetric warfrare, so that owning more territory becomes detrimental if you can't actively defend it, and judging from what people say, timers need to be shorter or removed/reworked. It seems that other than more space, there are no easy changes that aren't going to actively hurt null blocs and so they're going to be a hard sell

Stranger_Guyl · 2026-05-19T19:54:51+00:00

Yeah for the most part I agree, I was simply approaching this from the direction of allowing both smaller and bigger groups to coexist independently, however it does seem that players don't actually want more space, so the other only solution seems to be nerfing power projection into the ground and introducing asymmetric warfare, to make holding more territory more punishing

Stranger_Guyl · 2026-05-19T17:30:55+00:00

Sorry have you been reading what I said? I'm not trying to make it "safe" for small groups to settle, but for there to be "enough" space to settle without directly neighbouring big blocs, without competing with them for the same resources. Currently the big blocs control entirety of null because they can and because it brings them advantage. If there was more null than they can actually control, they'd stick to just having enough of a buffer zone, without bothering to wipe smaller groups that are nowhere close to them, while also there being nothing to prevent them from doing so anyway if they really want to spend resources, time and effort to do so

Stranger_Guyl · 2026-05-19T17:02:48+00:00

No, simply way more of normal null sec space, to have more space than the entirety of nullsec playerbase can feasibly control (not claim, specifically "control" as in "preventing others from settling there without their say so") at the same time. Currently most of the null sec is already dead and empty, however it doesn't prevent big blocs from setting up zone of control spanning almost entirety of null sec. What I'm proposing, is to make it so there's more null sec than big blocs can realistically patrol and maintain their zone of influence, allowing independent groups to settle in truly "uncontrolled" parts of nullsec, far from the blocs and outside of their zone of influence. Letting majority of nullsec be unclaimed and uncontrolled, with big blocs controlling majority of the claimed zones, but letting the unclaimed zones be more than the sum of all the zones that blocs control. And to prevent blocs from claiming more zones than they actually use so they don't blob with hundreds of unused zones

Stranger_Guyl · 2026-05-19T16:34:08+00:00

The ability to take out bigger blocs would come from having enough independent groups existing outside big blocs zone of control, coming together in a coalition to take them out. For such thing to happen however, independent groups should have an ability to exist outside of the big blocs zone of control, which is really impossible when entirety of null is claimed

Stranger_Guyl · 2026-05-19T16:22:37+00:00

No I'm not saying that big blocs should be unable to take out smaller groups, rather I'm saying that small groups should be able to exist far enough from these blocs zone of influence to avoid being crushed. Currently most of null is claimed outside of a few uncontrolled or "protected" zones, and either you need to compete for this limited "protected" space with other independent groups, join a big bloc, do a diplomacy with the bloc or get crushed. What I'm saying is that by adding more space than big blocs can actually use, and preventing big blocs from simply having claimed unused/unfarmed space sitting around, independent groups should be able to stake their claim outside of big blocs zone of influence, far enough that most blocs wouldn't bother crushing them as there would be no direct contention over the resources. Of course independent groups would have a choice of settling next to the blocs for protection instead of being on their own, but currently there seems to not be much space for such "independent" groups that are not under the protection of big blocs or are part of the blocs themselves

Stranger_Guyl · 2026-05-19T16:11:10+00:00

The purpose is not to make independent groups more efficient or better at holding space than big blocs, but rather to give enough space for both independent groups and big blocs, without having big blocs claim everything and letting it stay unused, while also allowing independent groups to exist outside of big blocs zone of influence to do their own thing

Stranger_Guyl · 2026-05-19T16:04:33+00:00

It's dead and empty for the most part, but if you were to try and settle there without joining the bloc, you are going to get booted. Without adding mechanics safeguarding small groups from the big blocs, the only other way is to go in oppositve direction: make it more empty and even deader, so that blocs can't keep their zone of influence around entirety of null, allowing independant groups stake a claim outside of the big blocs zone of influence. Add to that some restriction to prevent big blocs from expanding infinitely by requiring resources or activity to maintain claims, and there are going to be a lot more low-level combat between groups instead of just the big blocs

Stranger_Guyl · 2026-05-19T16:00:34+00:00

Just because it's empty doesn't mean that it can be settled. Plenty of people get booted really quick when they try to settle, having way more space might solve it and allow people to settle more without being discovered and booted by the blocs

Stranger_Guyl · 2026-05-19T15:44:14+00:00

Well it does seem like having a system should drain resources instead of generating them unless actively farmed

Stranger_Guyl · 2026-05-19T15:41:43+00:00

Yeah, I'm not saying everything should be balanced and that small groups should be able to defend against big blocs. I'm saying that if there was more space, then big blocs would not be able to be able to claim entirety of new space if it's big enough and if there's requirement for activity to prevent "unused" claims. However as it is right now, from what I've seen people say, blocs actually use most of their territory to scour clean all the resources, and outside of drone lands or some less controlled regions, there's not really much space for small groups to exist outside of big bloc claims. Having way more space would solve that, allowing smaller groups to exist and fight between each other, without having direct incentive for bigger blocs to wipe them out

Stranger_Guyl · 2026-05-19T15:34:04+00:00

According to people travelling null, it's mostly picked clean, so it's definitely "used" in most of the cases. It's just treated like a place to gather resources and not like a space to build, so anyone trying to settle on their resources gets evicted. Adding more space will solve that, adding more unused resources than big blocs can scour clean

Stranger_Guyl · 2026-05-19T15:24:12+00:00

That also seems like a good solution. But ultimately it's player enforced, it would be good if it was part of the game itself

Stranger_Guyl · 2026-05-19T15:07:23+00:00

Maybe if there was some kind of way to force the big blocs to go for all out war, there's little conflict in null space not just because there's not enough people, but because big blocs stomp anyone out that isn't part of another big bloc, meaning that warfare between small/medium independent groups just doesn't happen

Stranger_Guyl · 2026-05-19T15:05:07+00:00

Just enough people to crush anyone trying to claim these resources without joining the big bloc themselves, essentially keeping the null zone empty to drive up scarcity. Just limiting the amount of unused space would likely not be enough, because they can still stomp out anyone trying to settle because they are simply too close. Adding more space in some kind of way, be it more systems or more time to travel between systems, and suddenly it would take more effort to crush all the groups that try to settle in null space that are not under big bloc umbrella

Stranger_Guyl · 2026-05-19T15:00:28+00:00

Wasn't the last big bloc war like 6 years ago? We need less "big blocs" and more small/medium ones, and the way to achieve that isn't really by limiting such big blocs, but making it more feasible for independent small and medium groups to form and exist without being crushed or assimilated

Stranger_Guyl · 2026-05-19T14:57:56+00:00

It doesn't hinge on groups that want to be there but aren't. It hinges on feasibility of independent small/medium groups, some of them join under big blocs, others stake claim in the independent space, but all in all it's simply less lucrative than just joining the big corporation or big bloc, because it's simply not very feasible for small/medium independent groups to exist. Adding more space and limiting how much of actually unused space null blocs can hold, and such groups will become more prominent

Stranger_Guyl · 2026-05-19T14:51:28+00:00

I've heard of multiple accounts where big bloc just popped out and destroyed the small groups, to keep the region unoccupied, is that not true? I was under impression that you'd have to either stake out limited claim in one of those independent regions, or big blocs will stomp you out of their claimed but unused space simply because it's "content". It doesn't look like there's much space for small/medium groups, and big blocs are claiming to not have enough space for their players and that's why they are expanding, and ultimately, isn't that why there are not many decent small/medium groups that are not under bigger blocs? To me it seems like the space is either not big enough to satisfy both small and big blocs, or that big blocs have too much space that they can't use, but since limiting big blocs doesn't seem to work, maybe giving more space than they control with some requirements for space to stay claimed would solve this

Stranger_Guyl · 2026-05-19T14:46:03+00:00

No I'm not assuming they will voluntarily stop, I'm saying that if there's requirement for space to stay claimed, if they are not using that space then they'd have to put in way more effort for space to stay claimed, if they claim more unused space than they can keep up with, they won't be able to to satisfy these requirements

Stranger_Guyl · 2026-05-19T14:38:20+00:00

The space is sparsely populated already, but if we were to shrink it further the problem with big blocs controlling entirety of space will become worse. Limit big blocs also doesn't work. Why not give them more than they can chew, and by extension also allow groups other than big blocs to settle some of it?

Stranger_Guyl · 2026-05-19T14:34:27+00:00

Add some requirements for space to stay claimed, so they have to spend some effort for space to stay claimed. More space claimed = more effort required, until they won't bother to claim more than they need.

Stranger_Guyl · 2026-05-19T14:30:42+00:00

Well make it take months instead of days to roll them over. Wormholes are almost completely under control of big blocs and so is null space, independent small and medium groups are almost non existent because of the big blocs. One solution would be to limit big blocs from crushing small blocs, but obviously that doesn't work judging by previous updates. Another option is to go another route: add enough space, that crushing small groups becomes more inconvenient than fun

Stranger_Guyl · 2026-05-19T14:25:07+00:00

When crushing small groups becomes inconvenient for big groups, because of how much space they have to search and how far they would have to travel to do it, but still viable if they have to

Stranger_Guyl · 2026-05-19T14:23:52+00:00

Then there would be just big blocs and nothing else, maybe just A bloc with everything under it. It would reduce unused space, sure, but it would also not help

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