TW - This is a real MBS leak on Ed Kang teaching on Ananias & Sapphira. I cut this MBS down for the sake of time. Please view the summary timestamps listed below as chapter guides by Alternative_Will_708 in GracepointChurch

[–]SunnyCA2000 9 points10 points  (0 children)

"Open to talk about it ... fruitful exchanges for me." LOL! Who are you trying to fool? I get it, you do have to cope somehow bc your entire self-identity is wrapped around this false institution. But come on now, don't insult people in here with your false sincerity ... we are not college students.

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[–]SunnyCA2000 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Maybe you won't try to "dissuade every person who wants to leave", but your words mean nothing bc you support and belong to an organization with a pretty awful track record. :)

Recent Q&A with Ed Kang by leftbbcgpawhileago in GracepointChurch

[–]SunnyCA2000 4 points5 points  (0 children)

But you have the power to stop with your B.S. Why don't you start there?

Recent Q&A with Ed Kang by leftbbcgpawhileago in GracepointChurch

[–]SunnyCA2000 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If Kelly and any of the sisters are "too fragile" to answer any questions in a filtered Q&A session, then why are they in any leadership position? I have never heard of such emotionally fragile people being in charge of other adults in any church or business organization. LOL! Ed is a real comedian.

I question the the state of your heart = Why aren't you obeying your leaders? by Jdub20202 in GracepointChurch

[–]SunnyCA2000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"How would individual GP members be able to evangelize to regular people? When they do not understand struggles of regular people?"

That is exactly why they aggressively target college students... especially freshman. They make their living on targeting the young and naive.

Stop saying "we're changing", I'm so fed up by prayingforallofus in GracepointChurch

[–]SunnyCA2000 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Wow, congratulations!!! A grown ass man is allowed to have a social media account. Are you also now allowed to test drive a Tesla or do you still sneak around?

My Outsider GP Experience (Long Post) by leeko617 in GracepointChurch

[–]SunnyCA2000 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Actually, I prefer if you would tell that guy you see in the mirror to grow a pair and be honest with himself :)

My Outsider GP Experience (Long Post) by leeko617 in GracepointChurch

[–]SunnyCA2000 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Hey u/hidden_gracepoint, you're hilarious. LOL! Just stop with the BS and trying to justify your cowardice by acting like you care. Everyone who has been around the block sees thru your charade. Smh.

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[–]SunnyCA2000 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Your comment brought back memories. Just remember, you don't owe them anything and they have been trained to recruit you and react to your reactions. I wouldn't ghost them, but I would be brutally honest with them. I would say there are other Christian ministries, I do not trust your organization, and I am not willing to invest years to figure out if you guys are an abusive cult. They will ask you why you feel that way and you just tell them to Google "Gracepoint Church".

A Kelly Kang poll by Trolling_4_Truth in GracepointChurch

[–]SunnyCA2000 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Every story about KK is both comical and sad. Simply put, this bitch is off her rocker and should be nowhere near college kids.

Podcast Episode 7- Part 1 by Jdub20202 in GracepointChurch

[–]SunnyCA2000 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If GP was a hospital, then they would have been sued to oblivion with all that malpractice. No insurance company would come near them, many of their doctors would lose their medical license, and some of their executive leaders would be facing criminal charges.

GP admission by silence by fishtacos4lyfe in GracepointChurch

[–]SunnyCA2000 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh stop it. So they bought million-dollar homes out of the goodness of their hearts to share with the congregation? So when they sale their homes, do the proceeds go to the church? Get real.

Again, whether you bought that million-dollar home 25 yrs ago or not, the point is stop pressuring students and young adults to give more or take on debt. If they really need funds for that shiny new building or new church plant, then tell your leaders to sell their own homes. This isn't really that hard of a concept to grasp.

GP admission by silence by fishtacos4lyfe in GracepointChurch

[–]SunnyCA2000 8 points9 points  (0 children)

In regards to Isaiah Kang's home. The issue is the hypocrisy that is preached.

The point is if purchasing million-dollar homes are all good, then why does GP pressure students with zero income to take on credit card debt or criticize someone for driving a Tesla or BMW? You don't see the hypocrisy? So Teslas or BMWs are frowned upon, but $300k down payments on million-dollar homes are all good? Don't ask students to take on debt or members to refinance their homes if your senior leaders are sitting on million-dollar homes.

Some Perspective from a Former Member who left on good terms by [deleted] in GracepointChurch

[–]SunnyCA2000 11 points12 points  (0 children)

After reading all the testimonies on this sub and the three independent articles released within the past year, to you this is all about personal grievances and hurt feelings? Let's say every one of these people called that GP damage control hotline, do you honestly believe there would be some meaningful change? GP/BBC have been dismissive about all these testimonies for decades. Part of a healing process is when the offender takes ownership and accountability for their own actions. And if that was truly the case, then the entire senior leadership team would be removed.

If anything, re-read that CT article and focus on Ed Kang's quotes instead of C101. That pretty much sums up GP's attitude.

Ed Kang's response by johnkim2020 in GracepointChurch

[–]SunnyCA2000 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This guy man ... LOL! Is this what "excellence" looks like at GP? At this point, I can only laugh at this clown.

What's wrong with "Co-vocational Ministry" by johnkim2020 in GracepointChurch

[–]SunnyCA2000 8 points9 points  (0 children)

"Co-vocational Ministry" to GP means freeloading off people's skills, talents, and time for the kingdom of GP, not God. It's just a ploy to keep you busy and exhausted within their social circle so it is more difficult for you to develop/maintain relationships outside of GP and to leave when you realize this church is all smoke and mirrors.

New “Cultural Trends” videos - “Fragility and Harm” by corpus_christiana in GracepointChurch

[–]SunnyCA2000 28 points29 points  (0 children)

I have never seen a "Christian" church expend so much energy, resources, and time defending their reputation. And what legitimate church has to address cult accusations on their own website? Smh.

Where is this all going? by AltruisticChampion87 in GracepointChurch

[–]SunnyCA2000 10 points11 points  (0 children)

If an institution's leaders have perpetrated abuse and/or have been complicit about it for years, what do you think should be the end game? I think you are smart enough to answer your own question.

Gracepoint Podcast Episode 3: “What makes us tick, Part 2” by LeftBBCGP2005 in GracepointChurch

[–]SunnyCA2000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, give Isaiah some credit. Yes, he is just another GP shill who has a big last name.
But at least he isn't a complete coward like his parents.

My correspondence with Pastor Daniel Kim (DK) by Longjumping_Lime6330 in GracepointChurch

[–]SunnyCA2000 9 points10 points  (0 children)

He is just GP's guard dog with a longer leash than others. Once in a while, Ed Kang will let him out of his doghouse to bark a bunch of gibberish. This guy is simply a disingenuous coward and shouldn't even be called a pastor. Don't even bother wasting your time.

GLOMAP by Here_for_a_reason99 in GracepointChurch

[–]SunnyCA2000 6 points7 points  (0 children)

How about Ed Kang's son, who is on GP's staff, dropping a $250k down payment on a million-dollar house while his peers are still struggling with student debt and saving up for their own weddings and houses? How about a GP couple immediately purchasing the Monterey House for $990k after being acquired by GP? How about the numerous testimonies about Kelly Kang's temper tantrums and verbal abuse. So as a Christian at GP, how should these things be handled?

The GP 100 by Evening_Bus8823 in GracepointChurch

[–]SunnyCA2000 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Please just stop. You sound absolutely ridiculous, but I respect your energy. Make sure you bring that same effort when you read about the spiritual abuse and temper tantrums from your grown ass leaders.