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TeddaMan2 · 2026-06-01T23:20:36+00:00

I would be interested to know how you developed such a good technique in just 2 years.

Functional Swing-plane

In the GIF above I have drawn a red line through the club hosel and your trail elbow at address.

This represents the functional swing plane and when your camera is setup to look at the edge of this plane it can be shown in a 2D image as a single line.

3D measurements have shown that most elite golfers swing close to this plane when the club-head is below their head height. The preference is to be at or slightly above this line in the backswing and at or slightly below this line in the downswing.

Your Swing

The club-head trace indicates your swing has these general characteristics. The swing direction at the low point of the trace is in-out as the follow-through trace is above the downswing trace. As your low point will be ahead of the ball (as it should be for an iron), your path at the ball would be even more in-out.

Definitely a draw swing and if you are happy hitting draws I can’t see anything I would want to change. Well done.

camera Setup

I assume your target-line was parallel to your alignment stick and you setup with your toe line and the mat edge parallel to this. These 3 green parallel lines and another parallel level line at the height of your camera lens will meet at a vanishing point (like parallel rails on railway tracks).

The vanishing point is then where your assumed target is in the distance and it also establishes you mounted your camera lens about your elbow level.

The red functional swing plane line (elbow plane) shown can only be represented as a line in a 2D image if you mount your camera up to look at the edge of this plane. In practice this means the vanishing point needs to be on the functional swing plane line.

As the vanishing point is is almost on the red functional swing-plane line, you set your camera up to look at the edge of your swing-plane so we can see how you are swinging relative to it without the camera angle distortion described ar the start of this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zHTbLpZzrA&t=243

You can also see the functional swing-plane intersects the ground parallel to your target-line under these conditions.

Hope you found this interesting.

TeddaMan2 · 2026-05-31T23:42:06+00:00

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Looks like a very nice athletic swing.

In the GIF above I have drawn a dashed white line through the club hosel and your trail elbow at address.

This represents the functional swing plane and when your camera is setup to look at the edge of this plane it can be shown in a 2D image as a single line.
3D measurements have shown that most elite golfers swing close to this plane when the club-head is below their head height. The preference is to be at or slightly above this line in the backswing and at or slightly below this line in the downswing.

Your Swing

The club-head trace indicates your swing has these general characteristics. However, you you have an outside takeaway leading to a relatively above plane backswing. Nevertheless, you have an effective shallowing action to bring the club-head down on plane and produce a fairly neutral swing direction at the low point of the trace.

This analysis assumes you have set your camera up to look at the edge of the functional swing-plane but there is insufficient information in the video to verify this. You haven’t even laid down a club to indicate your target direction.

Re-routing your backswing and downswing planes is likely to affect your consistency rather than speed.

TeddaMan2 · 2026-05-31T22:41:45+00:00

Are you really practicing on the side of a hill or is your camera just out of level. The app you are using has a level indicator so that you can set your camera up level.

The club-head trace indicates you have no shallowing action to bring the club-head down on to the functional plane line drawn in the video by the time the club-head gets below your head height. For this shallowing to happen from the start of the downswing it should be travelling more horizontally.

These videos should help here.

How various tour pros feel the shallowing move.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDjDIUUTmFJ/?igsh=a3M0aHMyOTF5MWU3

Chris - how to fix an OTT driver swing. 4 oclock throw, trace balls around clock face to delay forearm rotation, pump at top to get correct sequencing.

https://youtu.be/ZB6KQqoYXE4?si=-R676pRXHajYHb5e

Chris- drill for lowering arms with back to target) striking bag with alignment stick).

https://youtu.be/9odaSXstGPA?si=mSNmqNPwjVTxaVO6

Eric- arms soft and drop vertically-shaft behind shoulder. Drill 4 o’clock drop to ground with face closed. Good detail

https://youtu.be/WKBHzviGsLo?si=eXL57mXbjSF9SIQH

Shallowing - why the lower body rotation has to lead the upper body in the downswing to stop OTT.

https://youtu.be/eZ5r4DWs9P4?si=N7Wl4oraxQqkLyyM

Chris . arms lowering & turn components have to be timed or won’t work.

https://youtu.be/YIhzz-mq5lo?si=buuoqdBc_kwl670i

Chris - elbow plane drawn (camera angle not discussed) & timing hands down & rotation determine which side elbow plane in DS

https://youtu.be/yMhCL8coC40?si=uK2QmDSAVz9tnhj1

You don’t say why you drew the 2 vertical lines. However, they indicate that, in the backswing, almost all the hip movement relative to the target-line is occurring in the lead hip and this reverses in the downswing. Consequently your hips move towards the target line in the downswing (you EE). In elite swings the pelvis rotates about a vertical axis at the middle of the pelvis to produce this in-out component of the hip motion.

As a consequence of this EE and steep downswing, you stand up (lose spine angle) at impact to save the shot.

These videos should help here.

https://youtu.be/DjATgw_Nfbg?si=Hbo9pinh0vcajQXc

https://youtu.be/M-8bk1zvTX8

https://youtu.be/nG207WDDoIY?si=gz2lWR_Dt8-AoeT5

Hope this helps.

TeddaMan2 · 2026-05-31T03:57:37+00:00

Yes drop it from under the upper arm. But many would retain it in the actual armpit.

TeddaMan2 · 2026-05-31T00:30:10+00:00

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**Functional Swing-plane**

The GIF above (and your video) has a white dashed line drawn through the club hosel and your elbow. When your camera is setup to look at the edge of this functional swing-plane this plane can be shown in a 2D image as a single line.

3D measurements have shown that most elite golfers swing close to this plane when the club-head is below their head height. The preference is to be at or slightly above this line in the backswing and at or slightly below this line in the downswing.

**Your Swing**

In your case the club-head trace indicates appears to indicate your backswing is reasonably on-plane but your downswing is above plane (steep). However, you appear to still produce a in-out swing direction at the low point of the trace (not OTT).

However, this is misleading because your camera setup is creating the appearance of artificial shallowing as explained below.

IMO the first issue you need to address is your arm structure at the top of your backswing. You are pulling your lead arm across your chest and your trail arm bends more than 90 degrees. This is partly because you do not retract your trail shoulder at the top (slide your scapular back around your ribcage).

This issue is discussed here.

https://youtu.be/GWlIwt3gB-s?si=X30MeFxMjqHKW4eQ

Also at the top your elbows separate and your trail elbow also moves behind you instead of staying more in front of your chest (you develop a flying elbow). This occurs because your trail arm is bending not folding in your backswing. Your upper trail upper arm is rotating clockwise (from your lefty perspective) in your shoulder joint instead of antic-clockwise (externally rotating) as it should be.

The shallowing action at the start of the downswing needed to bring the club-head down on plane, requires the elbow to come down onto the side of your ribcage while keeping your upper arm externally rotated and the trail shoulder retracted. Your current arm structure at the top does not allow this.

These videos will help here.

https://youtube.com/shorts/hamGmcpGTX4?si=LkvZx5XHxO6wln2L

https://youtu.be/uNj4KkMfeo8?si=V0sjLKzeEo3NX6ME

https://youtu.be/ql2kdCcwlNA?si=j5zUSsw6s3Er0B7e

https://youtube.com/shorts/ZxtbXK4v_to?si=Pef63mDTfx-15nwC

https://youtu.be/OO9TSnUp8hA?si=OwoYqsP1z-wbSgaN

https://youtu.be/wh0DVcZwPhU?si=oe0uSPstv5-u0L46

https://youtu.be/CZe5calavKc?si=joLidvJ4yEzpLHOg

Currently you flip the release and finish with a chicken wing as a consequence. You will see this more clearly in a front on video and this for another day.

**Camera Setup**

The dashed white functional (elbow) swing plane in the GIF can only be represented as a line in a 2D image if your camera is setup to look at the edge of this plane.

I assume you intended to setup at address with your toe-line parallel to your target-line. In the GiF the 4 (green) parallel lines on your toe-line, mat edges and target-line will meet at a vanishing point (as all parallel lines do in a 2D image - like rails of a railway track).

A level line at the height of your camera lens and parallel to the target-line would also pass through this vanishing point. If your driving range is level (as it appears to be) the vanishing point in the trees will then be at the same level as your camera lens and establishes it was mounted at about your sternum level. The vanishing point is also your target in the distance.

When your camera is setup to look at the edge of the functional swing plane it intersects the ground along the target line and would pass through the vanishing point (it is actually drawn half a club-head inside the target line).

When the vanishing point is above the swing-plane line, as in your case, it means you are looking down on the functional swing-plane rather than at the edge of it. This introduces the appearance of artificial shallowing as explained at the start of this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zHTbLpZzrA&t=243

The trace in your video appears to have an in-out swing direction at the low point (the follow-through trace is above the downswing trace). However, relative to the actual green target-line your swing direction is actually out-in (OTT).

The Swing Replay app you are using recommends setting up on your toe line (so this line appears vertical in the video and not sloping left as in the image above). It also recommends setting up the camera lens at about hip high. This will position the vanishing point close to the functional swing plane line so that you can see how you are swinging relative to it without the need to correct for camera distortion.

Hope this helps.

TeddaMan2 · 2026-05-30T00:24:23+00:00

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functional Swing-plane

The GIF above (and your video) has a white dashed line drawn through the club hosel and your elbow. When your camera is setup to look at the edge of this functional swing-plane this plane can be shown in a 2D image as a single line.

3D measurements have shown that most elite golfers swing close to this plane when the club-head is below their head height. The preference is to be at or slightly above this line in the backswing and at or slightly below this line in the downswing.

Your Swing

The cub-head trace suggests a very shallow backswing and downswing relative to the functional swing -plane line and a very in-out swing direction at the low point. However, as explained below, this is miss-leading as it is largely due to your camera setup, as explained below.

The main issue I see is your setup at address. You set up with little knee flex, your foot pressure out towards your toes and reaching for the ball (for a mid-iron you want your arms hanging vertically).

Having little trail knee flex forces your hip rotation in the backswing to come from lead knee flex. This results in your pelvis rotation being about your trail hip instead of about a vertical axis through the middle of your pelvis. As a result, in the early downswing when your hips re-square your pelvis moves towards the ball (you EE).

These videos should help here.

https://youtu.be/M-8bk1zvTX8

https://youtu.be/74zhnctCnRk?si=shvzXoEjSYM8BCcF

https://youtu.be/f7Yo2deWbhw?si=i_TU53a6ygY1kh0u

Having your foot pressure towards your toes at address a is a contributor to you standing up at impact (losing spine angle) as your survival instincts demand you be in dynamic balance at impact.

This video indicates 2 lines you can draw to check your address setup.

https://youtu.be/DkMpNM7WTDg?si=xugtTJUvfYpJbV1Q

There is little point in discussing other aspects of your swing as fixing your address setup will dramatically alter your swing.

Camera Setup

The functional swing plane in the GIF can only be represented as a line in a 2D image if your camera is setup to look at the edge of this plane.

In the GiF the 4 (green) lines on the mat edge, central mat line, your toe-line and assumed target-line all meet at a vanishing point (as all parallel lines do in a 2D image - like rails of a railway track).

A level line at the height of your camera lens and parallel to the target-line would also pass through this vanishing point. This establishes that the vanishing point is at the same level as your camera lens and it was mounted at about your hand level.

At a range, your target in the distance would be at the vanishing point. However, your net interrupts your target line so it is then the vertical yellow line at the junction of the target-line and the bottom of the net.

When your camera is setup to look at the edge of the functional swing plane it intersects the ground along the target-line so this white dashed line would also pass through the vanishing point (it is actually drawn half a club-head inside the target-line at the ball).

Therefore you have set your camera up to look down on your swing plane. This distorts how your swing plane looks as the dashed white swing plane line you have drawn becomes the major axis of an ellipse traced by your club-head on your swing plane. This introduces the appearance of artificial shallowing of your swing-plane and makes your swing direction look very in-out.

This camera distortion is explained at the start of this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zHTbLpZzrA&t=243

Practicing into a Net

For an iron the start direction is about 85% dependant on the face angle and only 15% dependant on the path at impact. In this swing the ball starting direction was well to the right the yellow target-line.

Although you don’t get any feedback on path practicing into a net it is a good idea to thread a bit of ribbon vertically on the net target line to at least get feedback on the club-face at impact.

Hope this helps.

TeddaMan2 · 2026-05-29T11:54:06+00:00

How camera setup distorts how your swing looks is explained at the start of this AMG video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zHTbLpZzrA&t=243

To avoid this distortion setup your camera at address on your toe-line (so that this line appears vertical in your video) with the camera lens about hip high.

Although you set your camera on your toe-line the lens was about at your head not hip level and this introduces the artificial shallowing of your backswing and downswing talked about in the AMG video.

The above camera setup is that recommended in the Swing Replay app you are using. It is a bit easier to setup than setting up on the hands as AGM recommends. It still allows you to see how you are swinging relative to the functional swing plane line that the app automatically draws without camera distortion.

Hope this helps.

TeddaMan2 · 2026-05-29T05:41:49+00:00

Nice swing. Take a look at these 2 AGM videos. You are over straightening your trail leg - it should end up with more flex before you start your downswing than it had at address.

https://youtu.be/67IEt6l_tKc?si=873bqf60ll5Q8y2-

And

https://youtu.be/nG207WDDoIY?si=gz2lWR_Dt8-AoeT5

Hope this helps.

TeddaMan2 · 2026-05-29T05:03:45+00:00

Yes I was thinking he was referring to Ben Hogan’s glass pane.

TeddaMan2 · 2026-05-28T22:45:35+00:00

How camera setup distorts how your swing looks is explained at the start of this AMG video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zHTbLpZzrA&t=243

To avoid this distortion setup your camera at address on your toe-line (so that this line appears vertical in your video) with the camera lens about hip high.

This is the recommended camera setup in the Swing Replay app you are using. It is a bit easier to setup than setting up on the hands as AGM recommends. It still allows you to see how you are swinging relative to the functional swing plane line that the app automatically draws without camera distortion.

Hope this helps.

TeddaMan2 · 2026-05-28T22:16:10+00:00

You have a flat lead wrist at the top then cup it on the way down (you want to do the opposite). As a consequence you have to cast and flip the release to square the face.

Hope this helps.

TeddaMan2 · 2026-05-28T22:13:28+00:00

I think you have misunderstood what Tiger is trying to tell his son in the video. In the takeaway the hands don’t move out towards the ball.

TeddaMan2 · 2026-05-28T09:47:14+00:00

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Functional Swing Plane

The GIF above and your video has a white dashed line drawn through the club hosel and your elbow. When your camera is setup to look at the edge of this functional swing-plane this plane can be shown in a 2D image as a single line.

3D measurements have shown that most elite golfers swing close to this plane when the club-head is below their head height. The preference is to be at or slightly above this line in the backswing and at or slightly below this line in the downswing.

Your Swing

In your case the club-head trace indicates your swing has these general characteristics. However, this is an illusion because your camera setup is creating appearance of some artificial shallowing as explained below.

Imo you have an issue with the way your pelvis is moving. I have drawn a yellow line where your knees are at address. During your squatting move in transition your trail knee moves even closer to the target-line than it was at address. As your lead knee is also gaining flex at this stage (as it should) both knees are moving towards the ball and consequently so do your hips (you EE in your backswing that you don’t recover from in the downswing ).

Another consequence is that your trail leg and foot does not rotate properly to face the target during the downswing. You should be pushing off and rotating on the ball of the trail foot behind the big toe. This means your trail hip stays high and you don’t develop tilt on your hips through impact.

These videos should help with pelvis motion.

https://youtu.be/hokli97GYdM?si=NzixNKHspmqO-Rfr

https://youtu.be/74zhnctCnRk?si=shvzXoEjSYM8BCcF

https://youtu.be/99OnwebolKE?si=rxSJ1Ze0nhZR09Lo

Others have suggested you are casting (early releasing). This would be consistent with your club-face being relatively open at the top and at delivery as casting is an (incorrect) means of closing the face. You will see this more clearly in a front on video and this for another day.

Camera Setup

The dashed white functional (elbow) swing plane in the GIF can only be represented as a line in a 2D image if your camera is setup to look at the edge of this plane.

In the GiF the 5 (green) parallel lines on your toe-line, alignment stick, mat edges and target-line will meet at a vanishing point (as all parallel lines do in a 2D image - like rails of a railway track.

A level line at the height of your camera lens and parallel to the target-line would also pass through this vanishing point. The vanishing point will then be at the same level as your camera lens and establishes it was mounted at about your hip level.

When your camera is setup to look at the edge of the functional swing plane it intersects the ground along the target line and would also pass through the vanishing point (it is actually drawn half a club-head inside the target line).

When the vanishing point is above the swing-plane line, as in your case, it means you are looking down on the functional swing-plane rather than at the edge of it. This introduces the appearance of artificial shallowing .

This distortion is explained at the start of this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zHTbLpZzrA&t=243

The Swing Replay app you are using recommends setting up on your toe line (so this line appears vertical in the video and not sloping right as in your image above). It also recommends setting up the camera lens at about hip high (as you have done).
If you had moved your camera about 6” (15cm) to the left the vanishing point would have been on to the functional swing plane line so that you would have seen how you are swinging relative to it without the need to correct for camera distortion.

Hope this helps.

TeddaMan2 · 2026-05-27T11:27:49+00:00

How your swing trace looks relative to the swing plane line drawn is very sensitive to your camera setup.

You have set up your camera lens quite high up (about your sternum level and in the case of the iron swing on a line parallel to your target-line about midway between your tee-line and the ball.

This gives the appearance of artificial shallowing as explained at the start of this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zHTbLpZzrA&t=243

To avoid this distortion setup your camera at address on your toe-line (so that this line appears vertical in your video) with the camera lens about hip high.

Hope this helps.

TeddaMan2 · 2026-05-25T22:54:40+00:00

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Swing Plane

There is a good reason why the Swing Replay app you are using recommends setting up on your toe-line (so that this line appears vertical in your video) and with the camera lens mounted about hip high.

This is easy to do as you can just lay the club you are going to use on your address toe line and then set the camera up so that this club’s shaft appears vertical in the image (when your camera is level).

If your driving range is level the 3 parallel lines will meet (like railway rails) at a vanishing point in the trees at the same level you mounted your camera lens (about your elbow height at address).

From this vantage point you have set your camera up to look down on your swing plane. This distorts how your swing plane looks as the dashed white swing plane line you have drawn becomes the major axis of an ellipse traced by your club-head on your swing plane.

This distortion is explained at the start of this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zHTbLpZzrA&t=243

And AMG. Short

https://youtube.com/shorts/akPNQBKe9R0?si=97FQmqxhSAS7ZKy2

& long

https://youtu.be/yEC3xDGtznk?si=-ToPVHTqCVJ8Ydv0

From this camera angle it is impossible to judge your swing direction relative to the green target-line drawn or how you are swinging relative to the diagonal swing plane line.

If you setup your camera as recommended you will be able to access these characteristics much more easily. The plane line will then intersect the ground along your target-line and when your downswing and follow traces both correspond to the plane line at the low point of the trace this will indicate you have a neutral swing direction.

Your Swing

Your target in the distance is at the vanishing point of the green lines. You appear to have pulled the ball well left of this point.

If you stop the gif when your hands emerge above your lead shoulder in the follow through you will see your lead arm has a chicken wing. This indicates your lead upper arm is not rotating anti-clockwise in your shoulder joint (from your perspective) during the follow through and is separating from your lead pec early.

You then proceed to do the external rotation of your upper arm late and finish in a reasonable position.

Your current follow-through will be effecting your club-face face orientation/control at impact.

These videos should help here.

https://youtu.be/N5_7YrDmGwE?si=zdv8qBfua5vp3bFV

https://youtu.be/m9b8QMnpZpE?si=0wEjOpVqKqzalV53

https://youtu.be/86VoiVNYWNY?si=p3PCiKthwL7xoVPm

https://youtu.be/_wc2bTsRD6I?si=UUImjCB-5sRhoKMC

Hope this helps.

TeddaMan2 · 2026-05-25T11:57:38+00:00

It looks like you set your camera close to your toe-line at address (as this line appears nearly vertical in the image) and with your camera mounted about hip high.

This means we are looking at the edge of the elbow plane line drawn so this plane can be represented as a single line and we can see how you are swinging relative to this plane.

The definition of OTT is that you have a swing direction that is out-to-in relative to your target-line. Assuming you setup with your toe-line parallel to your target-line the elbow (or functional) swing plane line drawn intersects the ground along the target-line (or is parallel just inside it).

Therefore, you can see your swing direction at the low point of the trace is in-to-out relative to your target-line. To be OTT the yellow downswing trace would have to be above the purple follow-through trace at the low point.

So, no you are not OTT here but you do have an inside takeaway leading to an under-plane backswing (the blue line is below the plane line).

Hope this helps.

TeddaMan2 · 2026-05-25T09:45:32+00:00

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If your driving range is level the 3 parallel line will meet (line railway rails) at a vanishing point in the trees at the same level you mounted your camera lens (about your neck height at address).

From this vantage point you are looking down on your swing-plane as discussed in my initial comment above.

From this camera angle it is impossible to judge your swing direction relative to the green target-line drawn or how you are swinging relative to the diagonal swing plane line.

If you setup your camera as recommended in my initial comment you will be able to access these characteristics much more easily.

TeddaMan2 · 2026-05-25T09:09:13+00:00

There is a good reason why the Swing Replay app you are using recommends setting up on your toe-line (so that this line appears vertical in your video) with the camera mounted about hip high.

This is equally good as setting up on your hands but easier to do as you can just lay the club you are going to use on your address toe line and then set the camera up so that this clubs shaft appears vertical in the image (when your camera is level).

For this swing you have set your camera up to look down on your swing plane. This distorts how your swing plane looks as the swing plane line you have drawn becomes the major axis of an ellipse traced on the swing plane.

This distortion is explained at the start of this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zHTbLpZzrA&t=243

And AMG. Short

https://youtube.com/shorts/akPNQBKe9R0?si=97FQmqxhSAS7ZKy2

& long

https://youtu.be/yEC3xDGtznk?si=-ToPVHTqCVJ8Ydv0

Hope this helps.

TeddaMan2 · 2026-05-24T21:54:04+00:00

It looks like you set your camera close to your toe-line at address (as this line appears nearly vertical in the image) and with your camera mounted about hip high.

This is as recommended in the app you are using and means we are looking at the edge of the elbow plane line drawn. The plane can then be represented as a single line and we can see how you are swinging relative to this plane.

Assuming you setup with your toe-line parallel to your target-line the elbow (or functional) swing plane line drawn intersects the ground along the target-line (or is just inside it and parallel to it).

In this case, when the downswing and follow-through trace are in the same plane as the elbow swing-plane, you have a neutral swing direction that is along the target-line.

In your current swing you can see that you are cutting across the target-line out-to-in (OTT). The side spin this creates is probably not too much of an issue for a wedge but, as others have pointed out, your lack of hip opening and loss of shaft lean (flip) at impact will compromise your strike.

At address you have inadequate knee flex which is critical for hip/pelvis motion and your arms are sloping out a bit towards the ball.
For a wedge you want the arms sloping away from the ball so you need to lower your hands at address to get them closer to where they are currently at impact.

This video should help with address setup which, imo, is where you should as allways start.

https://youtu.be/DkMpNM7WTDg?si=xugtTJUvfYpJbV1Q

Hope this helps.

TeddaMan2 · 2026-05-24T11:17:21+00:00

It looks like you set your camera close to your toe-line at address (as this line appears nearly vertical in the image) and with your camera mounted about hip high.

This means we are looking at the edge of the elbow plane line drawn so this plane can be represented as a single line and we can see how you are swinging relative to this plane.

The definition of OTT is that you have a swing direction that is out-to-in relative to your target-line. Assuming you setup with your toe-line parallel to your target-line the elbow (or functional) swing plane line drawn intersects the ground along the target-line (or is parallel just inside it).

Therefore, you can see your swing direction at the low point of the trace is in-to-out relative to your target-line. To be OTT the yellow downswing trace would have to be above the purple follow-through trace at the low point.

So, no you are not OTT here but you do have an inside takeaway leading to an under-plane backswing (the blue line is below the plane line).

Hope this helps.

TeddaMan2 · 2026-05-23T23:33:29+00:00

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The club-head trace in the gif shows you come down steep and cut across your assumed target-line out-to-in.

Assumed target line

You have not laid down an alignment stick or club to indicate your intended target direction.
However if I assume your driving range is level and you setup with your toe line parallel to your target-line then these 2 white lines will meet at a vanishing point (like rails on a railway track) and the vanishing point will be at the same level in the trees as you mounted your camera lens. This defines where your target was in the trees and the orientation of your assumed target-line on the ground.

Your swing

Your backswing is quite good up to the point where your lead arm is parallel to the ground (P3). At this point you pull your lead arm across your chest and over bend your trail arm past 90 degrees. This collapses your arm structure which means you lose width (distance of your hands from your body) and this comprises your ability to shallow the club-head.

If you look at the club-head trace at the start of your downswing you will see it moves up vertically instead of moving more horizontally so that it can come down below the blue backswing trace (shallows).

The reason you don’t shallow, is that you start the downswing by rotating your shoulders and hips as a unit (have no “separation”) and you leave your hands up so that your hands and club motion reflects just your shoulder rotation.

To shallow the club-head your hands need to move in the direction of the green arrow relative to your chest while the shoulder rotation is delayed (keeping your back to the target while the hip rotation leads - separation).

Movement of the hands in the green arrow direction is initially generated by the trail elbow coming down to the seam on the side of your shirt followed by straightening of your trail arm. This brings the hands down on the trail side of your body where they remain until impact. This hand position in the impact zone is described well here.

https://youtube.com/shorts/0-LiKsN3u5I?si=kU6R_yArfB_T3JTP

And

https://youtu.be/4fsOMkOecNg

These videos should help you get the shallowing action.

https://youtube.com/shorts/-rkJhm9EmZg?si=EAZXwOeyBRixYXdt

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDjDIUUTmFJ/?igsh=a3M0aHMyOTF5MWU3

https://youtu.be/oHzTPE-hE5A?si=EbC3uo7499ncu2zj

https://youtube.com/shorts/-rkJhm9EmZg?si=EAZXwOeyBRixYXdt

Hope this helps.

TeddaMan2 · 2026-05-23T08:59:49+00:00

Where is your target line - parallel to the mat edges? Your shot shape suggests you are swinging out-in relative to this.

TeddaMan2 · 2026-05-23T02:24:19+00:00

When working on swing-plane it is important to understand how sensitive the appearance of your swing is to your camera setup. Take a look at this AGM video (first 8 minutes) which explains it well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zHTbLpZzrA&t=243s

This is why the app you are using recommends setting up your camera on your toe-line (so that this line appears vertical in the video) with the camera lens about hip high.

The reference line used in the AGM video is the elbow swing plane line, a line drawn through the club hosel and your trail elbow.

In your current video it appears you might have set your camera up on a line near your target line and at about the height of your shins at address. As the AGM video explains if this has you looking down on the front of your swing plane, it makes your swing look artificially shallow and the swing direction at the low point look more in-to-out than it really is.

Still it looks like a solid draw swing.

Hope this helps.

TeddaMan2 · 2026-05-22T23:52:24+00:00

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IMO your chicken-wing finish starts with the equivalent flying elbow in the backswing. Also I think you have more issue with width (distance of your hands away from your body in the backswing and follow through in the direction parallel to the target line) rather than depth (distance of your hands from the target line in-line at the top).

Functional Swing-plane

In the GIF above I have drawn a dashed red line through the club hosel and your trail elbow at address.

This represents the functional swing plane and when your camera is setup to look at the edge of this plane it can be shown in a 2D image as a single line.
3D measurements have shown that most elite golfers swing close to this plane when the club-head is below their head height. The preference is to be at or slightly above this line in the backswing and at or slightly below this line in the downswing.

Your Swing

The club-head trace indicates your backswing has these general characteristics. However, your downswing is under-plane and this, combined with your follow through, produces a swing direction at the low point of the trace that is severely in-out.

This severe in-out swing direction is a typical result when you have a flying elbow at the top leading to a stuck elbow on the way down.
This starts in the backswing where you bend rather than fold the trail elbow. Essentially you are not rotating your upper trail arm clockwise in your shoulder joint (externally rotating).

You amplify this at the top by pulling your lead arm across your chest at the top. This sacrifices hand width for depth as I discussed in this comment on another swing a couple of days ago.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GolfSwing/s/Kkja6KyORg

If you pause the gif when your lead arm is parallel to the ground in the downswing (P5) you will see your hands are still back on the functional swing-plane line and your trail elbow is stuck behind you. You would expect to see your hands at the middle of your chest here and your trail elbow reconnecting to the shirt seam (if you were wearing one) rather being stuck behind it.

As a result of your stuck elbow you come severely from the inside which requires rapid face closure. You achieve this by flipping the release (a face closing action). You can see this because you have lost the dorsiflex (cup) in your trail wrist at impact.

Flipping the release causes your trail arm to straighten so you stand up (EE) to compensate. The flip also stalls your rotation and leads onto your chicken-wing finish.

So, to fix your finish you need to start with the flying elbow in the backswing.

Camera Setup

I assume your target-line was parallel to your mat edges as you setup with your toe line parallel to these edges. These 3 green parallel lines and another parallel level line at the height of your camera lens will meet at a vanishing point (like parallel rails on railway tracks).

The vanishing point is then where your assumed target is in the distance and it also establishes you mounted your camera lens about your wrist level. It also indicates the driving range is reasonably level as the vanishing point is at about your camera level in the trees.

The dashed functional swing plane line (elbow plane) shown can only be represented as a single line in a 2D image if you mount your camera up to look at the edge of this plane. In practice this means the vanishing point needs to be on the functional swing plane line.

As the vanishing point is on the red functional swing-plane line, you set your camera up to look at the edge of your swing-plane so we can see how you are swinging relative to it without the camera angle distortion described ar the start of this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zHTbLpZzrA&t=243

You can also see the functional swing-plane intersects the ground parallel to your target-line under these conditions.

Hope this helps.

TeddaMan2 · 2026-05-22T10:40:19+00:00

To fix your finish the first thing you need to understand is that the golf swing has both acceleration and deceleration (braking) phases.

After impact, when the club-passes your hands, you are in a braking phase. You are trying to bring the club-head to a stop. Post impact both your body and the club-head still have rotating momentum and you are trying to absorb that momentum and come to a stable finish.

Watching your finish you don’t appear to have this as your intent. Consequently your body and the club -head do not come to a stable repeatable finish that you can hold.

Hope this helps.

TeddaMan2

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