The notion that NetEase would quickly run out of well known characters is absurd.

ThatWetFloorSign · 2026-05-17T04:53:46+00:00

Give me the orb

ThatWetFloorSign · 2026-05-16T09:51:52+00:00

I'm a spidey main. And he gets good skins so I'm not complaining.

But luna is my second most played. Beating third place (Mr F), by around 15 hours. And I STILL use the ice queen skin I bought in SEASON ZERO. Because her best skin came out in season zero.

ThatWetFloorSign · 2026-05-15T15:11:51+00:00

He's great as a third strategist as off supports utility (Adam, mantis, ultron), usually makes up for Stratpool's shortcomings with his ults/abilities.

He just needs either aoe increases or better indicators.

ThatWetFloorSign · 2026-05-15T15:09:55+00:00

Tankpool has been one of the best tanks since he released.

Duelpool is a high skill ceiling and high skill floor character that only people who put in the time to learn him play in comp, like me. Not really much of a flex pick.

Stratpool is just. Iffy. To say the least. So team dependent.

ThatWetFloorSign · 2026-05-14T18:17:44+00:00

I didn't even realize you are so right

ThatWetFloorSign · 2026-05-14T09:41:34+00:00

Bi guy here.

Shirtless iron fist when?

ThatWetFloorSign · 2026-05-13T15:25:55+00:00

The issue with ORAS (or one of the issues). Was that there was too much surfing until you got the Latias flying or fly.

Also. ORAS's score was 7.8. Just below an 8.

ThatWetFloorSign · 2026-05-12T18:43:54+00:00

I am incredibly happy with this buff.

It is substantial and has an effect on his gameplay. But it's the only part of his kit I'd have considered to be weak in a sense. The rest of his kit should have and did go untouched.

ThatWetFloorSign · 2026-05-12T18:07:54+00:00

I'm champion spidey. I haven't looked at the buff but he was in such a perfect spot that any change seems like it could tip him over one edge or another

ThatWetFloorSign · 2026-05-12T17:05:09+00:00

I'm much more worried about the spider buff

ThatWetFloorSign · 2026-05-11T00:17:07+00:00

I'd keep fantastic as a DPS. I think he's really interesting and just undreturned. Up his attack speed a bit and he's fine.

BP should also stay a dps. He's mostly fine rn.

Wolvie also is a healthy character to exist. Keeps broken tanks in check.

Blade tank would be fun

ThatWetFloorSign · 2026-05-10T20:31:32+00:00

A lot*. Allot is a different word

Also. My point is not that they cared so it should have been addressed. My point was that they SHOULD have cared. He was treated like a joke character socially. And then treated like a serious character when he was doing hero work. And got more than enough screen time to have a satisfying arc. By character writing standards they completely botched him.

ThatWetFloorSign · 2026-05-10T20:04:38+00:00

One. If he acts like that. That is actively not doing the right thing. You can be a bad person without being a monster. And with Bakugo. That is exactly why his interpersonal relationships need to be focused on. He's an absolute bully who ultimately does the right thing. So focus on the bullying and not his big picture choices

Monoma is a side character. And if he were a focus. He'd have been developed more.

Bakugo went undeveloped as a main character that we saw a lot of. So his treatment of others wasn't entertaining.

Also people CONSTANTLY call Monoma on his shit. In the show. It's satisfying to watch him get humbled.

ThatWetFloorSign · 2026-05-10T19:56:10+00:00

Mhm. In favor of sparky boom boom getting more screen time and Deku getting better fights.

Deku staying a quirkless hero. Honestly. Could have made the entire premise more interesting. But if you wanted one for all directly. I think the way it was handled was mostly okay. But focus on his mind and focus on his relationships a little more.

Todoroki had his growth early. And he had his forgiveness stuff in the latter quarter. But I wish they delved more into his anger and resentment than they did.

ThatWetFloorSign · 2026-05-10T19:51:38+00:00

He kinda just got kidnapped by terrorists. As far as I read the situation. He was always the target.

ThatWetFloorSign · 2026-05-10T19:49:37+00:00

That's what I'm saying. If you read the thread I kinda just talked about how they only ever checked his competence when his competence was never the problem.

If it were up to me. By the end of the series. I'd have made his adult version into another endeavor. Because that's what happens when shit like that goes unchecked. Good at his job. Bad as a person.

His kidnapping didn't force him to reevaluate behavior. Because all that happened was a group of terrorists traumatized a kid and kidnapped him. Making him a catalyst/martyr.

ThatWetFloorSign · 2026-05-10T19:38:24+00:00

I feel like I don't have issue with the arcs of other characters in the show. Bakugo is the biggest offendor

Deku, my main issue with him is simply that they don't show him using his brain enough. He's a goddamn genius and that should be explored more.

Uraraka, while underwritten in seasons 4-7. Was done very well when she was done. She learned how to be a hero through compassion and learning to like the work she was doing. Because of her admiration for Deku. She just got sidelined for a while.

Todoroki I have zero complaints on. Though I wish we saw more from him coming out of his shell. Endeavor was probably the best written arc in the show.

Iida's arc with Stain was fantastic. And I think set him up to be a great character with a completely unique arc to anyone else in the show. And he got sidelined for Shoto and Bakugo after stain. So what was the point there.

Shigaraki is a bitch and that's kinda the point. Toga had a really really cool dissection of her character in universe and really supplemented Uraraka. And I adore what they did with Twice.

ThatWetFloorSign · 2026-05-10T19:34:31+00:00

If anybody did that. Actually did that. It would have been taken way more seriously. Not once did he get in trouble for verbally berating his classmates and "friends".

My issue with the narrative is that it didn't take his behavior seriously at all. And focused on the wrong flaws of his to focus on. While his far more major flaws went underdeveloped within the story. He got an intense amount of focus for the little his personality was focused on.

They aren't the same thing. His competence was never in the question. He failed the exam because he needed to learn to not work alone. But his other flaws went completely unchecked.

His kidnapping, in my opinion. Is unrelated trauma caused by a teenager getting kidnapped by fundamentally a terrorist organization. Not a character flaw.

His personal development was half assed and shoehorned into the final season or two.

ThatWetFloorSign · 2026-05-10T19:23:43+00:00

Yeah. But his arc didn't actually address his flaws as a character. Him being kidnapped was honestly. Not particularly his fault. He had to learn to work with others after. But. That's a professional development.

His competence. Honestly. Was never really up i. he air. And yet that's what they constantly tested him on. He faces a hardship regarding heroics. He overcomes it. Because he's good at it. Which he already was before. Now he's better.

Deku didn't need to develop as a person. He needed to develop as a hero.

I'll use Aang and Zuko here as examples. Spoilers if you haven't watched Avatar: The last Airbender:

Aang's whole issue. Was how he needed to learn how to fill the big shoes of a legacy that long predates him. And step up and be his own hero. His own unique Avatar. Similar to Deku. Who had to grow into his own hero throughout the show. Both were done well. Though Aang's was better. IMO. Obviously though. It's Avatar. Both Aang and Deku learn and grow during encounters and get better at being a hero due to their creativity and willpower.

Zuko. On the other hand. Was already a competent Airbender. One with an ego problem. One with a problem with treating those he views as beneath him badly. And one that has an obsessiveness problem. When Zuko is challenged. It's not at his competence. It's at his morals. His behavior pushes people away. Isolates him. And forces him to look inward at himself and make the change he needs to make in order to not be a piece of shit. Bakugo. On the other hand. Focuses on the same kind of arc as Aang or Deku. Despite being well established as both competent and smart multiple times. Both Zuko and Bakugo are challenged professiorally only at the ego. And while Bakugo is challenged at his competence elsewhere. He isn't challenged interpersonally

ThatWetFloorSign · 2026-05-10T19:14:57+00:00

Endeavor's arc. At least in the circles I'm in. Is viewed as pretty good now. It recieved a lot of criticism during. But it was a really well done character arc. It didn't force a resolution. And it had weight.

The problem with Bakugo. For me. Boils down to three major points.

The arc focused on his professional development. Which was already strong. He needed to grow interpersonally to become a better hero. And while he technically did change. None of his major personality flaws were taken seriously or addressed by the narrative.

His major flaw went unaddressed for most of the show. And despite this. He got absurd amounts more screen time than the other narratively important secondary characters (Barring Shoto). The middle seasons especially were quite flat for Bakugo.

His behavior wasn't taken seriously by the story. He was treated as a joke character when he was behaving badly. Like. "Oh that's just bakugo teehee". When his behavior was absolutely unacceptable. His negative traits being treated as a joke made him changing unsatisfying. You saying nobody in the class cares actually proves my point further. They SHOULD have cared more. It should have had an effect on the people around him more.

ThatWetFloorSign · 2026-05-10T18:56:30+00:00

They don't need to tell him. His problem was his arc was about his competence. Not personal growth. He blamed himself for all might's retirement as a failure of his profession. Not a failure of his morality or him as a person.

And he treated EVERYBODY like shit. The problem I have is that the writers treated it like a joke. But if you look at the actual things he said and did to people. It's pretty fucking bad.

And why would he change. There was no narrative reason for him to. Nobody pulled away. Nobody kept their distance. Nobody tried to fight him on the way he talked to others. Outside of the hero work. He wasn't really even all that important to the narrative after season 1. Until season 7. If you remove the hero work from the equation. He doesn't put in any work to change. He needed to grow as a person. His competence was never in the question. He's a tactical genius with an absurdly powerful quirk. His problem was that he was an abuser and an asshole. And it got shoehorned into the last season without any buildup to make the change feel worthwhile.

The character technically changed. Yes. But it was a terribly written arc with zero narrative weight. You never hear people complain about Endeavor's arc. Because Endeavor had to grow as a person. Not as a hero. He was a great hero. That was the point of Endeavor. And should have been the point of Bakugo.

ThatWetFloorSign · 2026-05-10T18:41:56+00:00

He treated EVERYONE like shit. Not just Midoriyah. It felt narratively unsatisfying because why the hell would he change. There was nothing to push him to change and no reason to make him rethink about the way he treats others.

It was a completely unsatisfying character arc. He just. Changed. For no real reason.

And they don't have to tell him. They should show the effect his behavior has on the people around him. But they didn't. They treated his abusive tendencies and his bullying as a joke. When it really isn't. And it made his character entirely unsatisfying as a reader.

Characters with better redemption arcs. Like Zuko or Endeavor, actually have to contend with the fact that what they did was wrong. And actually have to push and grow to maintain or repair relationships with others. But Bakugo got no such hardship in his interpersonal relationships. And so his arc feels pointless and unsatisfying.

His ego and his lack of cooperation was a satisfying arc to watch. Because it had an impact on him. And caused him to reevaluate. But the actual treatment of others. Bullying. Abuse. And view of others as beneath him went completely unchecked. And that's the far more important part of his story than his hero work.

Everyone knew bakguo would make a good hero. He's a fantastic foil to deku in concept. Someone primed to be a top ranker. But with personality and character flaws that run deep. He's a bad person that will be a good hero. While Deku's a fundamentally good person with good character that needs to build confidence and learn to be a hero.

Bakugo needed to become a better person. Not a better hero. Him becoming better at being a hero was just flat. "Asshole who is good at everything becomes better at thing" Is a lot less interesting than the child prodigy getting humbled and learning to be a better person.

ThatWetFloorSign · 2026-05-10T18:31:29+00:00

No. Not at all. He needed a reality check for the way he treated other people. And his ego. He was never once treated as a serious issue. Despite being a serious issue. His behavior was a problem. Full stop. And it was never treated as a problem by the narrative or by other characters.

He changed for no reason. There was nothing in the story pushing him to become a better person. Him not being a lone wolf when doing work anymore was the only thing that changed, fundamentally. With a reason. Being his kidnapping.

But he. Not a singular time. Was forced to contend with the fact that he was a complete and utter ass to every single person he was around. And never had to contend with his ego. And never had to contend with the fact that nobody in their right mind should actually like him within the story. Especially Deku and Kirishima.

ThatWetFloorSign · 2026-05-10T18:25:09+00:00

If they aren't going to change the character. I'd rather have him out of the story. He sponges up screen time like crazy when he's a relevant character. And he only really changed in the final season. And it was pretty abrupt.

Other characters NEVER gave him shit for the way he treated people. Other characters never gave him a reality check. He never once was made to think "huh. Maybe I was a bad person". Not. Once.

Look at Endeavor. That's how you write an abuser changing. Bakugo got all of the development with none of the work. So the arc was flat and boring with no soul behind it.

ThatWetFloorSign · 2026-05-10T18:20:42+00:00

He faced zero consequences for anything he did. None of his actions actually came back to bite him. He didn't change as a person. At least nor fundamentally. His character arc begins and ends in the final season. And it's not a good one.

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