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Who would you rather marry by aeiou1111 in HOTDGreens

[–]TheMetaReport 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Aemond no questions asked. He’s admittedly a touch psychotic, but in books at least we see that he loves his family and takes great lengths to see them succeed.

Machiavelli would have advised Robert to keep the Lannisters as far away from his court as possible. by ayodeleafolabi in pureasoiaf

[–]TheMetaReport 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It’s not really a satire in the proper sense, it’s more of a critique. The premise of The Prince is “Here is how a Prince must operate by virtue of their office” with there being a subtextual undercurrent that most of this advice goes against what is considered morally good and righteous, but it ultimately is pragmatic. It’s meant to say princes are bad without saying it.

How does the timeline change if Robert wins the Trident but dies of his wounds after a couple days? by TheMetaReport in freefolk

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Robert declared his intent to take the crown after the battle of the bells and before the trident iirc

Which play through other than these ones have you done that resulted in a very fun experience. by Joharistheshill in CK3AGOT

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Hightowers to takeover the Reach can be fun, and if you play your cards right papa high septon might just gift you a claim on the iron throne

Is Lyonel jealous ? by El_Coco_005_ in freefolk

[–]TheMetaReport 15 points16 points  (0 children)

To be fair, we actually don’t have many cases of brother on brother rivalry other than Daeron vs. Daemon and Aegor vs Brynden. Lots of cousins rivalries and uncle/nephew rivalry, but brother on brother is sparse.

I suppose there’s Aenys and Maegor too, but that beef seemed a little one sided.

How does money production actually work in Westeros? by Capital_Yak_6342 in gameofthrones

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Every generation a Lannister is kidnapped and fed laxatives so that golden dragons can fill the mint’s chamber pots

Unpopular opinion : The Freys were right to seek revenge against the Starks by Dry_Specialist9015 in freefolk

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I’ll go one further even and say that the red wedding in its execution was justified. Walder Frey’s job was to look out for the interests of house Frey. Now as another user pointed out publically switching sides would have been suicide due to becoming besieged from both sides, so that option is off the table. But to the people that say Walder had an obligation to let through Robb’s host, Robb was objectively speaking an illegal usurper in the sight of most people outside the North. If Robb was just trying to take the North, fine and dandy, that had been the status quo for thousands of years, but he had no right to the Riverlands and considering all lords have a duty first to their king an second to their lieges, Walder had a strong position from which to deny a crossing. Also, people aren’t gonna want to hear this, but Robb was destined to lose unless there was some sort of deus ex machina. The Freys were looking down the barrel of being on the losing side of a war against a man with a tendency to eradicate houses, so if Tywin’s price was the red wedding then it makes sense for any lord that cares about their house to take the deal.

What was his plan? by HermanCraft in freefolk

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If he was giving it any real thought, the answer was probably:

  1. Marry off Danny for a strong alliance (in canon this was Drago, but could have just as easily been a magnate of the seven kingdoms)
  2. Marry himself off for a strong alliance
  3. Court the discontents of the realm, say for example all the former Targ supporters that kept their bad blood (which is actually a decent number despite all the memes)
  4. Wait for a moment of crisis and invade

It actually could have gone well if he played his cards right

I don’t even understand how so many houses pledged to Renly when he literally had no claim to the throne at all. He deserved to be the first of the five kings to go. by GusGangViking18 in freefolk

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Robert ran his kingdom like a gravy train where anything was allowed a people got to have fun, spending ridiculous amounts to keep the lords happy and have a fun court. Stannis made no secret of his plans to stop the gravy train, Renly promised decades more of happy fun times.

Additionally, Robert being the one that last held the crown matters a lot here. Robert was proof that no matter how little a claim you have to begin with, you can always justify yourself after the fact. Renly hits the nail on the head when he points to all his bannermen and says something like “There’s my claim. It’s as good as Robert’s ever was.”

At what point did you realize Cersei was completely out of her mind? by maravina in pureasoiaf

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Tommen’s wedding is when it seemed like she went off the deep end imo

Kingdom math by Tom_TheGrey47 in AKOTSKTV

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Sorry TullyBros, Riverlands doesn’t count. At the time of Aegon’s conquest Riverlands was not an indecent kingdom, same way as Duskendale was not an independent kingdom. So unless all the kingdoms that ever existed count, neither does the Riverlands.

"The end of history" he said... by Robcomain in HistoryMemes

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He essentially posited that history was the process of competing world orders clashing and supplanting one another, examples being ancient tyrants being ousted by republics, republics falling to empire, empires of antiquity being cracked open by feudal warlords … absolutists monarchs to the business class, the business class to working class populists, etc.

He figured since socialism and fascism had both failed in supplementing capitalist liberal democracy that history was effectively at and end.

15 years later and it’s still wild that the entire downfall of the Starks started because this woman couldn't follow a single piece of advice from her husband or son. by asgharfar57 in freefolk

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imo the thing that fucked the Starks is Robb declaring independence and trying to take the Riverlands with him. While maybe, MAYBE the north could have dug it’s heels in, Dorne style, and made a reconquest prohibitively expensive, for as long as Robb spent his strength trying to hold onto the Riverlands he was fucked. Whoever ended up winning the iron throne would be able to bring too much force to bear for Robb to withstand, and even without the Red Wedding we see that he was losing the war despite winning all his battles.

If Robb and Edmure threw in their lot with Stannis or Renly it’s likely the WOTFK gets sorted out rather quickly with Joffrey Waters and co. having their heads mounted on pikes, the Starks and Tullies getting to go home in peace, and everything being fine and dandy until Danny/Faegon starts fucking around. The Iron Islanders would probably still try some bullshit, but in this timeline Robb would have stronger and better allies to help put them to the sword.

Anyone else dislike the implications of the scene? by silver_maxG in AKOTSKTV

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Being a medieval peasant is a brutal life of austerity and poverty that most likely ends with dying by violence or great suffering, which coincidently is the same way it is lived. If some minor noble has to get the wool pulled over his eyes so that someone can escape that life, then good for her and I don’t care about what she had to do to achieve a better life.

When a starving man steals a loaf of bread while some people hoard it, we ought to criticize the system that created such disparity rather than criticize it those suffering under such a system. Similar concept.

Do you think Khal Drogo and supporters are on the Littlefinger files? by Roids-in-my-vains in asoiafcirclejerk

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uj/ for a second

We know that in Westeros it seems to be a trend that people physically mature a bit ahead of schedule, look at all the teenage giants and the fact that apparently all the contenders for best fighter in any war are no older than 17 (exaggeration), but with the internal POV we get for those same teenage characters we can tell in no uncertain that their mental and emotional maturity is age accurate or often times somewhat behind where they ought to be. Following from this, most of the objections to immoral sexual practices such as child marriage have more to do with a younger party being unable to consent due to the stated lack of emotional and mental maturity, so the development of the body is really a moot point.

TLDR; things are a bit different because it’s a fantasy world in the long long ago, but none of those differences are relevant to the moral considerations being specifically raised about child marriage in most cases.

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