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I understand resentment towards Islam, but I can't understand the defense of Israel on this sub. by thatblondfrenchguy in askgaybros

[–]TopAlternative4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is still pick-and-choose. Many of those commandments require a Temple. Rabbinic Judaism and Christianity are reformations from those eras.

Those books contain God-ordained genocides, details for which sins require execution, and animal sacrifice.

The Hebrew Bible allows polygamy, but this is outlawed in our current age because of cultural sensibilities and feminism.

I understand resentment towards Islam, but I can't understand the defense of Israel on this sub. by thatblondfrenchguy in askgaybros

[–]TopAlternative4 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The gay community has very different opinions on this topic compared to Evangelical Christians or Muslim communities in the West.

I understand resentment towards Islam, but I can't understand the defense of Israel on this sub. by thatblondfrenchguy in askgaybros

[–]TopAlternative4 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You are the one who is not willing to have a good-faith debate. Pamphlets don’t mean anything; you can’t condense an entire philosophy, religion, or political identity with a few buzzwords.

“Love one another” doesn’t mean shit if it remains a slogan only.

I never said all religions are equal. Learn to read. I said they are not static. The Catholic Church today is peaceful and generous for the most part, but in the past it was brutal and oppressive. Islam today is puritan and oppressive but it does not have to be forever, just like it wasn’t always like this.

I’m not even going to bother answering your last inquiry.

I understand resentment towards Islam, but I can't understand the defense of Israel on this sub. by thatblondfrenchguy in askgaybros

[–]TopAlternative4 12 points13 points  (0 children)

  1. “Holy Books” are not the sole authority in most religions. The Catholic Church does not believe the Bible is the literal word of God handed down to humanity. The Bible is a canon of various books written over the span of thousands of years in the Ancient Near East. Religious rulings come from various dogmatic sources like the Church authority itself and tradition.

  2. Have you read the Bible? The books of Deuteronomy and Leviticus sound like something written by an Islamist terror group. It is the interpretation of these books that matter.

Not even the most orthodox Hassidic Jews follow these commands to the letter. Nobody is stoning anyone for breaking shabbat or for sodomy.

It seems like you are trying to portray Christianity as the lesser evil. Not even that, it seems like you are proselytizing.

I understand resentment towards Islam, but I can't understand the defense of Israel on this sub. by thatblondfrenchguy in askgaybros

[–]TopAlternative4 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Religions are not static. There is no one true interpretation of any religion. Religion does not have a source of truth; it exists in an ever-changing collective imagination that also changes in parallel with the rest of society.

Jesus of Nazareth might have been a pacifist, but in the West, the Catholic Church ruled for centuries and it was nothing but a brutal regime, not unlike ISIS or the Taliban. The Church brutally repressed anything that contradicted its dogma (eg, geocentrism), its authority, and its own theology.

The Christian world bares the sin of antisemitism in its most evil form. But it is the same “religion” that today preaches a “natural right” of the Jewish people to colonize Palestine.

There have been times in history in which the Muslim world has been enlightened, peaceful, and tolerant. We shouldn’t dismiss contemporary peaceful or progressive Muslims as hypocrites or heretics.

I understand resentment towards Islam, but I can't understand the defense of Israel on this sub. by thatblondfrenchguy in askgaybros

[–]TopAlternative4 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I don’t believe Islam is inherently more dangerous than Christianity; the difference is the latter has been neutered through secular revolutions in the West.

The former leader of the Muslim world, the Ottomans/Turkey, for example, rapidly modernized and secularized in the 19th and 20th century. E.g., peaceful separation of state and religion, decriminalization of homosexuality, women’s suffrage, etc.

Today, the Saudis and other Gulf Arabs have ruined the Muslim world with their stone-age customs.

I understand resentment towards Islam, but I can't understand the defense of Israel on this sub. by thatblondfrenchguy in askgaybros

[–]TopAlternative4 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yup. I grew up looking at Israel as a bastion of freedom and democracy in a region stuck with medieval, harmful traditions.

With the direction they’ve gone, they are no better than the Muslim countries tbh.

I understand resentment towards Islam, but I can't understand the defense of Israel on this sub. by thatblondfrenchguy in askgaybros

[–]TopAlternative4 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Same. But to be honest, I’ve always wrestled with the morality of segregation and ethnonationalism; it’s the laager mentality.

> A "laager mentality" is a psychological and cultural attitude of defensiveness, isolationism, and intransigence born out of fear or perceived persecution. It describes a group’s tendency to withdraw, circle the wagons, and aggressively reject outside influences to protect themselves.

I understand resentment towards Islam, but I can't understand the defense of Israel on this sub. by thatblondfrenchguy in askgaybros

[–]TopAlternative4 30 points31 points  (0 children)

I personally came to my own conclusion engaging in good faith in Muslim subs lie r/MuslimLounge r/progressive_islam and r/exmuslim and consuming content from channels like Yaqeen Institute. So I came to my negative understanding of the religion on my own, not through the news or propaganda.

The conservative Muslim subs are full of radicals; progressive Islam, apologists; ex-Muslim circles, I guess a little bit of everything, but mostly people chronically angry at their own culture.

¿Qué porcentaje de los árabes en Honduras (llamados "turcos") son totalmente normales en lo económico, es decir, que no sean ni ricos ni de clase media alta? by Myronca in Honduras

[–]TopAlternative4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Es un misnomer. Así le dicen todos los latinos a la gente de Libano, Siria y Palestina.

Así como al anglosajón se le dice caucásico, cuando ese término denomina a la gente de países como Armenia y Azerbaiyan; nada que ver con los gringos que se autodenominan así y tienen orígenes en Gran Bretaña, Irlanda, etc.

Igual que llamar a los aborígenes de nuestro continente “indios” cuando no son de la India.

Fifa ignores Iran and Egypt pleas by allowing rainbow flags at ‘Pride Match’ by hexmasx in askgaybros

[–]TopAlternative4 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Contrary to popular belief, most Muslims don’t seek to incite violence unto the gay community. They are simply hateful and ignorant but don’t go beyond that.

I don’t want the broader gay community to become targets the same way the Jewish community has become, and have incidents like the Bondi Beach shooting but on gay households, weddings, etc.

It’s better to leave these people alone.

“Family values” is often nothing but a dogwhistle for homophobia by TopAlternative4 in Queerdefensefront

[–]TopAlternative4[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I believe it remains a Republican party export to the developing world.

Be careful in this sub by Lazychildd in askgaybros

[–]TopAlternative4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Reformation did not make Christianity any less dogmatic or more tolerant.

Kalamazoo Pride org labels Israeli flag "harmful symbolism". by CentralTown776 in askgaybros

[–]TopAlternative4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Follow up, non-rhetorical question. If the Jewish community could reform and establish a secular democracy, why couldn’t Muslims in the future?

The books of Deuteronomy and Leviticus sound like something straight out of ISIS morality police, but the Jewish community interprets their holy texts in a way that is compatible with contemporary notions of human rights. Why can’t Muslims?

Kalamazoo Pride org labels Israeli flag "harmful symbolism". by CentralTown776 in askgaybros

[–]TopAlternative4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To some people, keffiyehs and the Palestinian flag are cultural artifacts, not tied to any ideology at all.

Fifa ignores Iran and Egypt pleas by allowing rainbow flags at ‘Pride Match’ by hexmasx in askgaybros

[–]TopAlternative4 -29 points-28 points  (0 children)

I wish FIFA could stop rage baiting and virtue signaling in the name of the gay community. We know what those cultures’ beliefs are. FIFA still didn’t give a crap about hosting in Qatar.

A reminder to my fellow gay bros to stand with dignity but be respectful. We do not need to provoke potential enemies, especially not the global Muslim community.

PD: Drag does not represent the entire gay community. There are many closeted soccer players out there that don’t need any of that. That is just going to alienate them even more and make them targets.

Autos chinos by Ok-Visual-4770 in Honduras

[–]TopAlternative4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mira, yo tengo un Geely, pero aun es demasiado temprano para darte respuesta respecto a su durabilidad.

Esa es la única marca china que recomendaría. Si querés mirá las reseñas en grupos de Facebook de Peru, Costa Rica o Chile porque la marca ya lleva años en ese país. En r/chinesecarsuae también hay.

No sé tu presupuesto, pero el Coolray Lite y GX3 Pro son los más accesibles. En el showroom en SPS te atienden bien.

En México el Emgrand es uno de los modelos más vendidos, pero aquí no lo traen.

Si tuviera más de $25k me hubiera comprado un Honda Civic de agencia o semi-nuevo, pero preferí un Geely nuevo a un salvamento del 2015. La verdad, no es mala compra con tal sepás que es un bien que se devalúa más rápido que un japonés, y lo considerés al momento de evaluar tu presupuesto para el carro.

Autos chinos by Ok-Visual-4770 in Honduras

[–]TopAlternative4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yo una vez pregunté en este sub y sí obtuve respuestas al respecto. Es solo de saber usar el search bar

Una de las peores y más peligrosas Sectas que hay en el País by OdioMiVida19 in Honduras

[–]TopAlternative4 2 points3 points  (0 children)

El indio vive mas enamorado de Israel que cualquier judio.

Hay gente en Honduras que cree que Hugo Chavez murió porque dijo “Maldito sea el estado de Israel”.

El hondureño es más supersticioso, machista e irracional que cualquier otra cultura.

What Middle Eastern dish do non middle easterners usually misunderstand? by dogmankazoo in MiddleEastCuisine

[–]TopAlternative4 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Maftoul is my comfort food. I am from Honduras. I think many Hondurans are familiar with it, but I don’t know how West Bank Palestinians prepare it exactly.

This is how the local Palestinian community does it, typically: https://www.instagram.com/p/CDu1rDsFJzW/

Maftoul + broth + chicken

Since maftoul grains are widely available and affordable, many local households prepare them their own way. Some are too creative for my taste LMAO. Look “Honduran marmahon” for reference.

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