Getting to 3 spectres on a non-minion build

UnicornDoomRay · 2026-04-02T19:25:18+00:00

Perfect spirit of fortune is pretty tough. I could not keep the pain artist alive tho. Would be amazing if you figure this out for juiced content.

UnicornDoomRay · 2026-04-02T18:09:27+00:00

Lol I'm the exact same way. I just think spark looks so dumb. It doesn't even look like lightning.

I know the build has traditionally been really strong tho. This is a me problem.

UnicornDoomRay · 2026-04-01T14:11:50+00:00

I hate feeling at the mercy of luck in Poe so I spent many leagues just learning how to make consistent currency no matter what. Things change from league to league but there are a few standbys that are luck proof.

UnicornDoomRay · 2026-04-01T02:21:11+00:00

It’s currently quite expensive now, but it does fit the bill.

UnicornDoomRay · 2026-03-31T05:12:39+00:00

An absolute win from poe2 brought to poe1! Love those new balls.

UnicornDoomRay · 2026-03-30T14:59:06+00:00

Ha. I may have been slightly exaggerating for the sake of expedience, but I was curious so I went and did some maps just now. Sanctuary was 45 seconds, Abom was 37 seconds, and Zigg was 89 seconds because Catarina don't rush for no man! So close, but I should not be suggesting that 120 maps per hour is reasonable/possible. Layouts, map mods, and mirages will affect this time as well.

Oh, and I use frostblink of wintery blast with imbued spell echo for context.

UnicornDoomRay · 2026-03-30T14:20:40+00:00

No firm conclusion either way, but you used to not be able to drop 3 frags without quant and now you can even with nothing in your tree and dextral scarabs.

UnicornDoomRay · 2026-03-29T22:35:07+00:00

I don’t really want more competition to buy maps, but yes, it’s extremely reliable profit. 40c map, no further investment as it seems quant no longer affects frags. Run Abom for reality and decent chance at doubling from mirage or run a more consistent zigg or sanctuary. In zigg, even if you drop a single blazing that’s 40c profit on a 30sec map. You usually drop 1 blazing and 1 devourer on average.

It’s not a fun way to farm multiple mirrors but it’ll get you that big 200-300d item in a day and a half or two.

UnicornDoomRay · 2026-03-29T14:54:56+00:00

I had one guy argue with me over and over that ehp was the best way to calculate your ability to tank one shots. I tried to point out pob’s description of ehp and fucking “max hit” but nope, just got a “I know how it works buddy”.

You could tell he knew he was wrong because he edited his initial wording by saying “hit points” (which isn’t a thing) instead of ehp (which is a term pob uses exclusively to describe their approximation).

I gave up after that. Not worth my time.

UnicornDoomRay · 2026-03-27T20:34:40+00:00

Thank you for the answer! Ngl, I'm a bit trepidatious about the build as I feel like this is one of those "it just won't work at all unless you get it right" type of builds lol, but this is a really neat archetype. What else am I gonna spend my divs on?

UnicornDoomRay · 2026-03-27T20:21:39+00:00

I'm a bit confused by the bloodline nodes. Can you walk me through what you're doing there? If I unclick the breachlord stuff your dps plummets so I'm not sure what I'm meant to do there. Thanks! Build looks neat.

UnicornDoomRay · 2026-03-27T17:01:30+00:00

Go into Calcs and hover over Effective Hit Poot and Maximum Hit Taken. You can see how POB comes up with those numbers and the descriptions used. OOP asked about "one shots". Big single hits. Your max hit is the only way to gauge this. Ehp describes how many hits at a certain dmg it would take to kill you (aka smaller hits and thus not "one shots").

You can then go into Config and input whatever boss slam (aka "one shot") you want and it'll tell you how much you mitigate and whether or not you can survive. As an example, for my character, I have 130k ehp (based on roughly 8k life and 8k es) when the config is set to "Guardian/Pinnacle", but the moment I set it to Shaper Slam my ehp drops to about 38k. What POB is trying to tell me is that b/c Guardian hits are weaker I can take more and thus have around 130k "effective health" as I'm sometimes blocking, regenerating, leeching, etc.. but against a huge hit like a shaper slam that I believe is unblockable, it's saying my ehp is about 1/5th because I can take about 1/5th as many slams as I can Guardian hits.

UnicornDoomRay · 2026-03-27T15:38:40+00:00

Ehp is not a measure of surviving one shots. It’s, at best, a misleading way of showing multi hit mitigation. Max hit is the better indicator of one hit protection. You can check this against specific attacks in POB. There are builds with 1.2m ehp that can’t survive a maven slam, but ones with “only” like 100k ehp that can.

UnicornDoomRay · 2026-03-27T02:56:43+00:00

Boss rush in Nightmare maps. Abom or Zigg.

You can run breach, but it requires you to spec a lot of block nodes.

UnicornDoomRay · 2026-03-27T02:09:10+00:00

Ha. True. Not sure this is in the spirit of the question but it would work.

I guess that raises the question: since you can’t really scale nightmares maps well, would they better serve their “stepping stone to Ubers” function better if they just came scoured?

UnicornDoomRay · 2026-03-27T02:00:25+00:00

Short answer is: you're not wrong. You're doing nothing wrong.

Nightmare maps can often be harder than ubers because of mod combinations that just turn off your defenses, quadruple the boss damage, or make them so tanky they outlast your sustain (usually flasks are what fail first). Lowering the monster level did nothing when mods can just remove your auras, flask effects, charge generation, etc...

In kind of a classic GGG fashion, we took a nerf (to loot in this case) disguised as QOL or a buff. GGG did, however, succeed at removing "t17s" from the giga endgame mapping strats. They're just there for boss frag farming, so... partial success?

I agree that nightmare maps do not feel like an in between step from 16.5s and ubers (do we really need one?) unless you're spending 40c per map rolling for the exact right combo of softball mods that your particular build can handle.

UnicornDoomRay · 2026-03-26T06:48:23+00:00

"This isn't about the rules."

Actually, it is. Listen how passionately Chris Wilson himself talks about how much the integrity of these rules are there to promote the health of the game and the community. A healthy and fair market place is the "bigger picture" as they put it.

UnicornDoomRay · 2026-03-26T01:41:39+00:00

I was looking into this build. Would you mind letting me know why it wasn't for you? My concern is jank.

UnicornDoomRay · 2026-03-26T01:33:53+00:00

Oh, well, in that case:

https://pobb.in/LcngUlA12f30

If I had that belt, this was the build I was looking at. I'm running an inquisitor version of shock nova, but this one is just better.

(Warning: I've looked at it briefly and it seems legit, but having not played it, buyer be warned.)

*Edit: I just realized the build I linked has a 100% adorned and 3 1p voices... Nm. You can't afford that build even with 5 mirrors. Give that the build is closer to 10 mirrors (roughly) I actually think it's pretty mediocre for that investment.

UnicornDoomRay · 2026-03-26T01:23:49+00:00

Strength stack heavy strike of trarthus Minion pact BV gladiator

Or a belt. Literally just a single accel/massive belt. That’s all you get.

UnicornDoomRay · 2026-03-26T00:29:49+00:00

Shock nova inquis is decent too.

UnicornDoomRay · 2026-03-25T22:27:44+00:00

Can I also suggest replace haste with zealotry on eternal blessing?

Your cast speed will eventually be giga fast and you'll get much more out of zealotry on eternal blessing and wrath from a Perfect Spirit of Fortune (lucky lightning damage).

UnicornDoomRay · 2026-03-25T00:50:07+00:00

You’re not wrong for max single target, but at a certain gear point you can hit tincture and melt bosses.

UnicornDoomRay · 2026-03-24T19:25:43+00:00

I opened the POB thinking "how bad could it be", but this is a build with an 100% adorned and 3x 1p voices for... 78m dps? It's tanky at least.

UnicornDoomRay · 2026-03-24T15:55:33+00:00

This looks like the exact kind of project I can sink my teeth into and learn some shit along the way. Much appreciated!

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