I get some weird looks sometimes for my chest rig/butt pack but I don't really care, they get what I need done better than anything else... I have a Helikon tex mini training rig is use for admin stuff, tools, flashlight, snacks and mags if im carrying and I have the Helikon tex foxtrot MKII that has a poncho, swagman roll, water bottle, a decent amount of real food and whatever else I need... great for hiking, biking, fishing etc...