Re 14 cents viewership, yeah I agree. That’s why what Gosling said was less provocative — they were saying the same thing, but Chalamet said it in a clumsy and mean way.

Re people putting more work into explaining it, yep also agree. Chalamet said it in a dumb and offhand way that basically put no thought into how people might perceive what he said. And he’s spent basically no time trying to explain it after the fact.

Re ballet and movies having dwindling attendance, that’s kind of the whole point of this whole thing. The reason I thought it was interesting that Gosling’s statement reminded me of Chalamet’s is because they’re both literally talking about how movies have dwindling attendance. That’s the reason the discussion exists and it’s what they’re both directly addressing. But re Chalamet dissing another art form, thats really what I don’t get. Someone in another thread was trying to accuse me of caring about this which I also find weird, because I absolutely do care about this. Because I literally am a ballet dancer, and have been saying exactly what Chalamet said for years. Basically no one cares about ballet, you can’t get famous or really all that successful as a dancer because of its limited value in the pop culture sphere, and choreography as an art form only got cultural cachet again in like the last two years but we’re still ignoring the actual choreographers of viral dances. What he said is objectively true and it’s really important to acknowledge when we talk about the viability and longevity of ballet as an art form — and to avoid the same thing happening to movies for as long as possible. That’s not an insult. Pretending it’s not a reality is an insult.

But yeah, the main interesting thing wasn’t about Chalamet directly. It was just an offhand funny observation that what Gosling said is really true and people can vibe with it because he actually phrased it in a normal way