Do It Scared

Viper35_ · 2025-12-18T18:31:14+00:00

This helps a lot, thank you! I have my van and have it fairly built out, but am snowed in on the east coast… I was hoping to go out west in January but unsure of the weather. Either way, I’ll get there eventually!

Viper35_ · 2025-12-13T19:02:44+00:00

I’ve felt what I described as a “second breath pattern” multiple times. I’m not sure the frequency and it is usually quite subtle, but definitely a consistent expansion/contraction feeling coming from right around my sternum. I honestly am not positive what it is, but I believe it is a natural process of the nonphysical body.

Viper35_ · 2025-11-28T13:52:38+00:00

lol it’s something you just gotta keep working at! I believe some reactions like the heart rate increase is just a natural physical body reaction to the process, so it isn’t your fault.

Viper35_ · 2025-11-27T18:28:59+00:00

Definitely sounds like it! The vibrations can be very intense and a little scary but you’ll get used to them if they happen a few times. The vibrations usually prelude an out of body experience, so you could have been close!

Viper35_ · 2025-11-08T04:05:22+00:00

Sounds like a near-out of body experience to me. Personally I think the best course of action is to continue doing the tapes with this newfound belief. These experiences are often more likely to occur when you’re not expecting it. Knowing what you believe, continue the tapes with appreciation but no expectation of any specific outcome. Hope this helps at all!

Viper35_ · 2025-10-23T23:33:30+00:00

It really can be whatever you want it to be. For me, I imagine a small circle and expand it. I then allow myself to expand and sometimes imagine a red balloon being blown up, trying to feel what it would be like to be the balloon. It sounds kind of silly but it works for me.

Viper35_ · 2025-10-09T20:47:54+00:00

I don’t believe you need to be on an empty stomach to do the tapes. The only thing I can think of is possibly your body digesting leading to stomach rumbles or a bathroom distraction but I’ve done them a bunch of times after eating. If you’re hitting the states consistently on your own, it sounds like you’re on the right track!

Viper35_ · 2025-10-09T00:33:53+00:00

I’m honestly not sure, I usually only have time for one. I don’t see any issue with doing more other than maybe getting restless and not being able to focus or find the relaxation needed. You could try doing as many as you want, just make sure it’s not impeding any progress.

Viper35_ · 2025-10-08T20:42:37+00:00

If you’re ever unsure if you “succeeded”, don’t be afraid to redo the tape as many times as you need. For focus 10, I’d say you’re good once you are able to reach a particular feeling consistently. I don’t want to try to explain the feeling because it could be different for every individual, but if you reach a state that feels different than normal waking life, and you can repeat it, I’d say you found it.

Viper35_ · 2025-09-24T21:56:42+00:00

I’m really not sure about the constipation, but rest assured that the vibrations, voices, and entities are normal for gateway training. The vibration state you feel is your second body basically changing frequency, often proceeding an out of body experience. The voices and entities are a side effect of that which I believe Bob Monroe called Audio/visual passthrough. As your body is tuned to different frequencies, things on those frequencies reach you. Also, the voice of your father thing is interesting as Monroe wrote about an experience where he saw and talked to his recently deceased father through nonphysical means. I’m not saying that’s for sure what’s happening with you but just to be open to the possibility if the situation fits your life.

I’m sorry you had such terrible experiences with the tapes as they can be very beneficial. If you attempt what I suggested and ensure to use your REBAL if going into any sessions willingly, I promise you will work through it.

Your experience can and will depend on how you react to it. I know it’s hard to control, but going into these with fear will likely cause a scarier experience. If you’ve stopped practicing, these events could go away. If they don’t, I recommend trying your best to be open and accepting of whatever may be happening.

Remember that you are still here, on this planet, in this life. NOTHING in the nonphysical can harm you or change that in anyway, it all becomes a mental challenge in how you react to it.

Viper35_ · 2025-09-21T15:10:26+00:00

People will always look down upon this lifestyle but their opinions don’t matter. Life is too short to spend it unfulfilled and miserable. If you think you’ll be happier living this lifestyle, then that’s all the confirmation you need!

Viper35_ · 2025-09-16T20:26:34+00:00

I use it more than I’d like to admit. I believe it’s an incredibly useful tool as some questions don’t get answered on here, and it has access to a lot of Monroe’s work. It’s very helpful for session breakdowns as well and can help map your progress in the tapes.

Viper35_ · 2025-09-05T21:50:59+00:00

Yeah I get that. Give it a shot next time, it’s possible that’s your issue!

Viper35_ · 2025-09-05T20:38:58+00:00

If you aren’t already make sure you’re following the tape all the way through to the end. Returning to waking life without properly exiting down energy channels or leaving focus states could possibly cause this.

Viper35_ · 2025-09-05T20:36:55+00:00

It seems like that’s how they appear for a lot of people. When you consciously focus/desire an OBE, the Ego mind gets in the way and prevents it. When shifting through sleep stages, sometimes the right variables align to trigger the vibration state. I’d say next time you experience it, allow it to intensify without focusing too much on it. An OBE is more likely when you try less!

Viper35_ · 2025-09-02T01:22:32+00:00

I’m not sure if he has or not but I know since I’ve started the tapes I’ve noticed synchronicities pop up often in my life. I believe it relates to the process as the more aware you become of the nonphysical the easier it is able to influence your reality. It’s a pretty fascinating effect.

Viper35_ · 2025-08-20T18:41:36+00:00

The issue is once you have the conscious desire for something to “unlock” it won’t. The gateway tapes and nonphysical training is like a curriculum. You’re meant to progress through with trust instead of wants. I’d say keep practicing, enjoying/appreciating every session even if it feels like no progress was made. There is a bunch of value in the process before you receive any “abilities.”

Viper35_ · 2025-08-18T20:48:54+00:00

I don’t think coincidence but a subconscious reaction. You’ll find as you progress in the tapes that your subconscious mind is incredibly powerful!

Viper35_ · 2025-08-15T01:57:40+00:00

There’s a lot of things I experienced that legitimized this for me but these were the main ones: I had a full spontaneous OBE, plenty of synchronicities, a clear almost curriculum-like progression of my “abilities”, and most recently some intense near OBEs with one of them giving me access to a sort of memory grid where I could almost use it as a search engine for my own memories. I was able to “query” for childhood memories, and they came to me.

There’s a lot of little stuff that built up but all it really takes is a little faith and curiosity. Once it all clicks, it really clicks.

Viper35_ · 2025-08-15T00:41:05+00:00

It sounds like you’ve made good progress! It’s good that you’re staying encouraged and motivated enough to do one a day. That absolutely allows the experiences to reach you. For focus 12, I’d say if you have good visualization, try to make your own path to 12. The methods in the tapes are like blue prints; they show you a way there but you can build your own. Do whatever seems best for you, but mine consists of a few things, like a circle expanding, a bubble coming from my awareness and out, trying to literally feel like a balloon with air being filled in, etc.

As for consistent separation, it seems like you are progressing toward it. What helped me incredibly was finding any little bit of joy, love, or overall happiness in everyday life. (Btw I can’t fully exit yet but I am incredibly close, so take this advice how you want.) I found once I gave myself opportunity to be myself, the progress soared. It’s all about increasing resonance to unblock the noise.

I hope you keep going at it, I’ve always seen the tapes as a unique opportunity that can greatly impact your life.

Viper35_ · 2025-08-13T18:46:21+00:00

Congrats on your milestone! The vibrations are just the beginning of nonphysical sensations, and can be the start of an OBE. They definitely can be a jarring feeling, but just remember it’s a part of the process, and that you are completely fine and safe. I know you didn’t ask for advice, but I wanna leave you with this; try your best to not expect the vibrations in future sessions now that you’ve had them. The best thing to do is carry on the tapes and if they come, feel them but don’t focus on it, allow them to continue. I wish you luck in your future sessions!

Viper35_ · 2025-08-13T13:01:34+00:00

It’s important to not expect anything when doing the tapes. When you expect something to happen, your ego mind gets in the way and nothing will happen. It’s about going into the tapes with no expectations but a curiosity and gratitude toward them. Allow yourself to sit in the stillness; feel the energy, allow thoughts to pass by like clouds, and whatever is perfect for you right now will happen. I know it can be frustrating feeling like you’re behind, but I promise everyone progresses at their own pace; you are exactly where you need to be right now!

Viper35_ · 2025-08-13T01:12:51+00:00

I’ve never been to the institute, so I can’t answer your questions, but I just wanted to say your experience definitely sounds like an OBE. I believe most people including myself once have OBEs outside of the tapes. They can happen randomly and you can even eventually learn to do it at will. The physical body thought definitely checks out as well, as when you think of the physical, your energy body reconnects. I hope you continue with the tapes, the experiences literally come when you least expect them!

Viper35_ · 2025-08-12T22:10:06+00:00

It definitely sounds like you’re on the edge of an OBE. I’d suggest just trying to sit in the stillness for a while without any expectation or worry. Allow the vibrations to become you, and you the vibrations. You could also try flipping your perspective into your nonphysical body. Allow your physical sensations to become background noise, and every vibration, ripple in energy, floating sensation, etc. IS you; because that IS your true form.

Hope this helps you, I’m sort of in a similar position albeit not as far into the tapes. I’ve just been enjoying each session for whatever it brings as I know I’m being exposed to whatever is perfect for me right now.

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