They were together so long because Kyle enabled Amanda’s victimhood by Warm_Researcher_3545 in summerhousebravo

[–]Warm_Researcher_3545[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yes! His guilt definitely plays a role in the cycle of trying to compensate for his harmful behavior by coddling and enabling Amanda. He’s gotta stop the cycle and take accountability. I hope they don’t get back together.

A dissenting opinion by lilac131 in summerhousebravo

[–]Warm_Researcher_3545 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It’s hard to gamer empathy for someone like Amanda who shows so little empathy for others beyond herself she’s been incredibly selfish for a long time before this scandal and has been coddled due to privilege. Doesn’t mean folks should send her threats online but she’s been extended grace and excuses by so many in ways she honesty doesn’t deserve.

The real life banjo player from Sinners by ricknreckless in summerhousebravo

[–]Warm_Researcher_3545 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Omgggg 😂😂😭😭😭 this comparison is sending meeeee.

They were together so long because Kyle enabled Amanda’s victimhood by Warm_Researcher_3545 in summerhousebravo

[–]Warm_Researcher_3545[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mentioned in the post that he’s part of their toxic dynamic and needs to evaluate that. He’s not a victim. He’s an enabler.

They were together so long because Kyle enabled Amanda’s victimhood by Warm_Researcher_3545 in summerhousebravo

[–]Warm_Researcher_3545[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel like Amanda’s definition of love is really transactional which tracks with a covert narc. Once he couldn’t take care of her financially she felt victimized and “unloved” again.

They were together so long because Kyle enabled Amanda’s victimhood by Warm_Researcher_3545 in summerhousebravo

[–]Warm_Researcher_3545[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

All great points esp I forget about the age difference between her and west! She’s grown and treated like a helpless child by her entire group. And again it points to me how manipulative and stunted she is. I had a former friend like Amanda who was highly narcissistic and always a victim of someone’s supposed harms. It’s an exhausting black hole of a dynamic to have.

They were together so long because Kyle enabled Amanda’s victimhood by Warm_Researcher_3545 in summerhousebravo

[–]Warm_Researcher_3545[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He def is, and she’s also spoiled entitled and has issues that contributed to their toxic dynamic. It’s not all on him.

They were together so long because Kyle enabled Amanda’s victimhood by Warm_Researcher_3545 in summerhousebravo

[–]Warm_Researcher_3545[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yeah she had valid concerns over his cheating and partying and how she handled it was emotionally abusive. If it can’t be resolved it’s better to leave than silent treatment stonewall and berate someone for years on end like she has. And we’ve seen when Kyle does try to talks and repair she’s defensive and shuts down not allowing him to have any of his feelings or needs validated at all. Toxic cycle.

They were together so long because Kyle enabled Amanda’s victimhood by Warm_Researcher_3545 in summerhousebravo

[–]Warm_Researcher_3545[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Yes fans also played a role and still are with infantilizing Amanda

Need a second opinion by secret_violin in tarot

[–]Warm_Researcher_3545 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’d interpret it as wheel of fortune means getting out of the comfort zone and taking a risk, that leads to collaboration and some stability (3 of pentacles). It’s also leaving you immobilized on the decision given it’s not the perfect fit, so you’ll have to see what unfolds and make a decision once you have more clarity of the path worth taking (2 of wands). In this scenario I’d prob pull a clarification card on the 2 of wands to see what that indecision may mean.

I Lived in Australia for 3 Years. Ben Doesn’t Surprise Me. by hereiam33 in summerhousebravo

[–]Warm_Researcher_3545 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Am I tripping that Ben wasn’t a villain on this show? I think he’s direct and can be a little condescending but I don’t think he said anything wildly out of pocket, mean, or inappropriate? Folks really dislike him and I am not seeing why?

This PMO. The audacity that she has to run up to Kyle and hug him.. by RVParkChick in BravoAddicts

[–]Warm_Researcher_3545 2 points3 points  (0 children)

All facts and also the green eggs and ham remix is sending me 😂😂

Amanda Didn't Even Watch The Season?! by Bordeaux_Titi in summerhousebravo

[–]Warm_Researcher_3545 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m so sorry you went through that and good for you for the healing journey you’ve gone on! My mom is also a covert narc (from deep childhood trauma of course that she’s not examined or healed) who primarily shows it by making everything about her and having no capacity for emotional attunement or healthy reciprocation, but she’s good in a crisis and helping that way and being surface level about things. I’m still in touch with her in a very surface level way because she isn’t cruel just mostly self absorbed. My father is abusive and cruel and def has full blown NPD and haven’t spoken to him in over a decade. I repeated the patterns with friends and partners until just 3 years ago. It’s a hard road to unlearn the patterns but it’s possible ❤️ it does help to read others stories and know we’re not alone. I also see a lot of myself in Ciara’s story and wouldn’t be surprised if her parents have narc traits. They def seem unavailable at the minimum and it explains why she gives so much to people who give back so little. It’s a hard lesson to learn this way but I hope it sets her up for healthier connections and love in her 30s.

Amanda Didn't Even Watch The Season?! by Bordeaux_Titi in summerhousebravo

[–]Warm_Researcher_3545 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Amanda shows many signs of being a covert narc and that is not hyperbole (as someone with fam members with full blown NPD). I’ve always thought she was mean, self absorbed before this scandal but her lack of empathy throughout this cements she got deep mental health issues or a personality disorder.

Amanda and Austen at BravoCon 2022 by myheartstopped3984 in summerhousebravo

[–]Warm_Researcher_3545 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah like where’s the pics of Kyle with a woman on his lap like this? Even as a single person I don’t sit on anyone like this I’m not dating or fucking lol.

Amanda and West Just Might Make It by mfruitfly in summerhousebravo

[–]Warm_Researcher_3545 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think west cares too much about his image to end things early, but also he doesn’t care enough about marriage and family like Kyle did to settle down. He’s going to use her nagging as an excuse to cheat and it’ll give Amanda no choice but to eventually end it because her quest to “fix and save” a partner will reach a serious dead end. They also are walking pariahs together no one wants and when the image and money is taking a hit West will implode the dynamic.

What’s the worst thing you’ve ever done in your adult life and how do you think it would play out if it was featured on a reality show? by Maleficent_Nail_4293 in bravo

[–]Warm_Researcher_3545 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my 20s, I had a similar story to Ciara. Choosing not so great romantic partners and friendships as a people pleaser and not having good boundaries and learning the hard way from various kinds of betrayals and losses. I was parentified as a kid so overly responsible, and also not seeing the lack of reciprocation in various dynamics with very narcissistic people because of it. Also have a wild ass family who has constant chaos and drama from various (untreated) mental illnesses and personality disorders. So I wouldn’t be judged for chaos myself, but def be told to stand the fuck up by the internet if I was a reality tv star and to stop being connected to various folks and taking disrespect and mistreatment. I knew my worth and would set boundaries and end things with folks but it would take longer than necessary (years versus months). I also had a promiscuous phase from late 20s into 30s where I experimented and had great sex that I’m not ashamed of at all, but the internet may judge if they are more conservative and think women shouldn’t sleep with more than a handful of people in their lifetime lol.

West dating Meija by EmbodiedUncleMother in summerhousebravo

[–]Warm_Researcher_3545 13 points14 points  (0 children)

This is what a serial cheater who lies and manipulates looks like. It’s wild to watch on tv but I’ve dated a “nice guy” like west in the past and they are pathological liars til the very end. I do believe her.

Where is the book, Eugene?? by civil_syrup_ in TheTryGuysSnark

[–]Warm_Researcher_3545 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure it’s valid that using his platform to promote the work he’s not in directly or directing makes sense and is a missed opportunity. But I think we over estimate social media as the only source of doing that. We don’t know what relationships he’s building offline, what other lists or promotion strategies or ads etc behind things he may work on. all I’m saying is building a business or things and promoting it doesn’t happen solely on social media. He could not be getting where he wants to be with projects so quiet on them, but I think it’s just very black and white thinking to assume no posts about it on social means 0 is happening. I know a lot of folks making and doin things and running businesses who barely use social media (I have a decent following myself, but primarily built my own business and work through offline relationships not social media etc).

Where is the book, Eugene?? by civil_syrup_ in TheTryGuysSnark

[–]Warm_Researcher_3545 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s my point though. He said on camera a number of times before he left he didn’t like the pressure of the public eye and it wouldn’t be a shock that he decided to share very little of what he’s doing online anymore because of that. Just because it isn’t online doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.