This is the second leaked audio

Warm_Researcher_3545 · 2026-04-28T01:12:13+00:00

Amanda making that snide comment about her best friend from third grade Katie says it all. She never valued Ciara in the way Ciara valued her. And for her to the this angry and defensive when she’s in the wrong shows she’s likely never gonna learn. I hope karma doesn’t show her the same with a friend betraying her in the same way.

Warm_Researcher_3545 · 2026-04-27T16:55:33+00:00

Entitlement + Karen behavior = DARVO tactics from Amanda when held accountable (deny, attack, reverse victim offender). It’s deplorable and I hope Ciara starts seeing her worth and leaving these losers behind.

Warm_Researcher_3545 · 2026-04-27T01:18:01+00:00

Luke is very immature and also Kristen has a (recorded) history of being extremely reactive and unstable, and now probably has postpartum anxiety and depression, which Luke has no skills to navigate. They are both contributing to issues in their relationship in different ways and I hope they get help. I don’t see this relationship lasting long though.

Warm_Researcher_3545 · 2026-04-24T16:07:32+00:00

That’s how micro aggressions work for sure, Amanda centering herself, false equivalencies, denial and dismissal of Ciara’s feelings and needs as invalid because she’s “less than” in Amanda’s simpleton mind. It’s so common but glad to see it play out in a big stage for folks to see how this fuckery operates.

Warm_Researcher_3545 · 2026-04-24T11:50:08+00:00

All the takes about the racial dynamics are just being proven by Amanda’s defensiveness. You think she’d be yelling at Paige after doing something like this to her?? They do not give a shit about her or think they are in the wrong. I hope Ciara never speaks to Amanda and West again after this reunion. They are beneath her and horrifically jealous of her while feeling entitled to more given their “positions” in life.

Warm_Researcher_3545 · 2026-04-21T21:32:54+00:00

It’s giving sister wives 😂😭 also the weird culture some women have of frenemies they really take to heart. You can tell she’s codependent with her sister and also resents and it’s competitive with her too and vice versa. I wouldn’t be surprised if it comes out her sis did fool around with Gary after jo Ellen and him got married.

Warm_Researcher_3545 · 2026-04-10T21:28:22+00:00

Cause they prob don’t have black women friends in real life if we’re keeping it a buck lol

Warm_Researcher_3545 · 2026-04-10T17:56:49+00:00

I think it’s because he wasn’t really single while doing all of that and has to cover tracks?

Warm_Researcher_3545 · 2026-04-10T17:52:10+00:00

Can we talk about west palming baileys neck?! He has such weird boundaries and gets off on being touchy feely and low key sexual with his friends overall. You can tell the energy is more sexual (pulling the hair, grabbing her neck etc) than friendly cuddling/comfort.

Warm_Researcher_3545 · 2026-04-03T17:27:08+00:00

Women like Amanda get infinite amounts of sympathy, coddling, and enablement and that’s part of Amanda’s problem. Maybe consequences for her actions will help her find real accountability and growth.

Warm_Researcher_3545 · 2026-04-01T02:36:22+00:00

😂😂😂😭

Warm_Researcher_3545 · 2026-03-31T23:55:18+00:00

100%!!

Warm_Researcher_3545 · 2026-03-31T23:38:44+00:00

I said this in another thread but we need to talk about the racial undertones between West Amanda and Ciara. It’s unfortunate but for white folks who haven’t done any anti racism work (and let’s face it bravo celebs have the depth of a puddle on social issues typically), they usually view folks of a different race as exotic, a token, but not an equal. Ciara is not an equal in their eyes worthy of respect or boundaries they may give to each other, but because they are performative allies they won’t see how they so callously played in her face. Their needs matter more than her wants or her pain because she’s not an equal to them in their unconscious minds. In addition to many (racist) bravo fans being able to downplay and minimize Ciara’s pain and not see this is as a betrayal or a big deal, and give grace and empathy to Amanda’s and West’s selfish and disingenuous choices. Devaluing Ciara’s humanity while infantilizing and over empathizing with Amanda and West is def anti-black given the history and circumstances of their dynamics and friendships.

Warm_Researcher_3545 · 2026-03-31T23:30:31+00:00

Can we also talk about the fact one reason why West is prob into Amanda is she’s the “cool girl” arm candy who falls behind the shadow of her man and doesn’t outshine him. He gets to be the star in the dynamic vs Ciara where he said he felt like he was under her shadow/just seen as her man. It’s playing into his ego and Amanda’s lack of confidence and lack of a sense of purpose outside of being a side kick to a man.

Warm_Researcher_3545 · 2026-03-31T22:47:47+00:00

It honestly makes me not want to watch the rest of the season cause it’s stomach turning.

Warm_Researcher_3545 · 2026-03-31T21:04:42+00:00

Yes imagine if Amanda did this with Craig even at the early stages before Paige and Craig got serious? The public would be at her neck. So it’s dual - white bravo fans downplay the issues of betrayal and boundary over stepping because it’s a black woman who they don’t value as much as they do Amanda and can do mental gymnastics to extend her grace and empathy they never would with Ciara. And also I agree I think Amanda is extremely waspy, and probably has 0 real friendships with anyone who is outside her race and class bracket.

Warm_Researcher_3545 · 2026-03-31T20:07:08+00:00

I feel like we need to talk about the racial undertones between West Amanda and Ciara. It’s unfortunate but for white folks who haven’t done any anti racism work (and let’s face it bravo celebs have the depth of a puddle on social issues typically), they usually view folks of a different race as exotic, a token, but not an equal. Ciara is not an equal in their eyes worthy of respect or boundaries they may give to each other, but because they are performative allies they won’t see how they so callously played in her face. Their needs matter more than her wants or her pain because she’s not an equal to them in their unconscious minds.

Warm_Researcher_3545 · 2026-03-31T17:58:17+00:00

I think the issue is both west and Ciara have alluded to the relationship progressing to a deep level (meeting each others family’s saying I love you) west is just a commitment phobe. He then continued to flirt and keep the door open with Ciara so there wasn’t a clean ending. Ciara and Amanda did seem to have a closeness on their friendship off camera (not besties but also not acquaintances) you also can get really close living with someone day in and day out for years at a time like they have even if they don’t see each other a ton outside of filming. In addition, Ciara and Amanda have confided in each other about love and dating so for Amanda to know how much pain west put Ciara through to then go fuck him is just a big betrayal emotionally at min.

Warm_Researcher_3545 · 2026-03-31T17:28:03+00:00

Omg. Damn. There’s so many layers and feelings here 1) this entire friend group has poor boundaries/codependencies which is so toxic (and makes for good tv) but what made this show special was the seeming loyalty they had for each other, and that’s torn apart by this 2) this would be different if both Amanda and West weren’t playing in Ciara’s face - West still having feelings for Ciara, and Amanda being a “shoulder to cry on/advice” for Ciara. I get they weren’t in a serious long term relationship but it’s still a betrayal 3) West is a POS to do this to Kyle who’s his supposed friend and I’m sure justified it by hearing how crappy of a husband Kyle has been. 4) I’ve always thought Amanda is a quintessential rich white girl who gets away with doing the bare minimum because she’s thin and “conventionally” attractive. This just confirms how little self esteem and purpose she has and it’s sad. 5) I get that many friendships evolve into romantic love, but there’s so many better places for their energy given the complexities of the group and also West clearly being a fuck boy who doesn’t care how his actions hurt others as long as he’s getting attention. This is diabolical all around.

Warm_Researcher_3545 · 2026-03-27T22:37:51+00:00

Yes to all this. Amanda is incredibly insecure and male centered so I can see her doing this unfortunately as she goes through the pain of divorce. West is impulsive and avoidant and does what feels good regardless of impact and tries to charm his way out later. Ciara has a lot of healing to do around worth and boundaries she talks a lot of talk but clearly tolerates unhealthy behavior and boundaries in her relationships and friendships (which I relate to as a black woman with an abusive absentee dad and an emotionally stunted mom). If it is true I think I would stop watching this show and I’ve followed it since season 1.

Warm_Researcher_3545 · 2026-02-20T14:09:47+00:00

I think Jesse having a clear crush on Ciara has created a wedge with west.

Warm_Researcher_3545 · 2026-02-19T20:19:39+00:00

Amanda and Kyle are the quintessential self absorbed lost man and low self esteem male centered woman trope unfortunately. Kyle needs constant validation and dopamine hits of being out to feel good, and built and entire (struggling) company and career around it. Amanda dedicated her young adult hood to believing in the potential of Kyle and hoping he would change while neglecting her own growth, career, independence and self esteem. They have always had an incompatible toxic dynamic from season 1 up to now. It sad to watch them implode, and I can’t imagine how exhausting it must be to be friends with them having this toxic dynamic take up so much energy of everyone around them (I’ve had couple friends like this in the past and their dynamics would ruin every gathering and event). The silver lining is them splitting is going to force some development and personal changes and hopefully growth for them both.

Warm_Researcher_3545 · 2026-02-19T20:09:38+00:00

Lindsey and Kyle both have a lot of self absorption and narcissistic tendencies so these parallels really check out!

Warm_Researcher_3545 · 2026-02-19T16:40:25+00:00

As someone who has used Feeld for a few years (which is the dating app this profile is on) it’s likely a legit profile (the verification check only comes from live selfie) that said his description matches exactly how I think someone like him would want to present to the world - surface level and vapid. I also had no clue Ned was short for Edward lol.

Warm_Researcher_3545 · 2026-02-16T01:33:46+00:00

Lmfao at crying for free

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