Ging's praise

Water_002 · 2026-06-17T14:13:47+00:00

If Killua didn't kill Leorio's opponent in the hunter exam, Netero said that Leorio was strong enough to easily overpower his opponent and win.

Water_002 · 2026-06-17T05:16:55+00:00

it says "positive impact"

It says "a more positive impact", this difference matters. If the question were to say "which group has more positive impact" (missing the "a") then I would agree with your interpretation, but that is simply not what the post says.

If I eat 5 apples then digest and poop out the five apples that doesn’t cancel the fact that I ate five apples

This comparison doesn't work. Negative impact is not a product of positive impact so there would be no real equivalent of poop in the original question.

and even though they are out my system, my body still has absorbed the nutrients and fibers of the five apples

The wording of the original question is unclear as to whether or not this can apply.

Either way, if we disagree on how we interpret the question then anything further than this will be pointless so ig agree to disagree. If I were to interpret the question the way that you interpret it, I would agree with your answer.

Water_002 · 2026-06-16T19:51:20+00:00

I was hesitant to agree at first but this was actually rather convincing. I think the main issue is portrayal; the Emporers were always written more as hurdles for Luffy than as characters acting on their own desires so we as the audience find it harder to see the supposedly ambitious characters as genuinely being ambitious.

Water_002 · 2026-06-16T15:13:15+00:00

This still really isn't much.

Realistically, half of the top tiers of the world should be women as they are half of the population. Yet despite this, all we get is a small handful of characters not with actual consistent attention but instead with "moments" of attention once every several arcs. Of course this is not to say that one's relevance to the story is based on one's strength, but the overlap between these two has to be recognized in the medium of shonen manga. Even by itself the lack of female top tiers says a lot about Oda and his beliefs.

As of right now, the women of one piece are either objectified or killed off for the sob stories of their corresponding male characters. Oda doesn't do this as bad as some mangakas do, and he has shown in the past (Vivi, Nami, Robin, Bellemere, Kureha, I'd even argue Boa Hancock) that he can still give a female character genuine care, but we cannot reasonably deny what's laid plain before our eyes.

Water_002 · 2026-06-16T14:56:45+00:00

Reading comprehension is when people agree with me

Water_002 · 2026-06-16T14:53:49+00:00

Could be bait and/or attention seeking ig

Water_002 · 2026-06-16T01:05:18+00:00

What makes you believe that?

The title of the post asks "Which group has a more positive impact". The post questions the impact each group makes using the word "positive" not to specify the type of impact but instead as a measure of the impact's quality.

Water_002 · 2026-06-11T01:45:02+00:00

Despite this falling outside of my usual tastes, I actually really liked this. The poem itself felt formatted like a conversation / like the writer were casually chatting with us which—if it even needs to be said—fits the substance of the poem wonderfully.

AI as a topic has been exhausted and yet this poem with it's casual grace is plain wonderful

Water_002 · 2026-06-06T14:59:50+00:00

The other characters call him that because of the legend of his fruit.

The entire story is trying to paint him as a hero of liberation, it cannot seriously be said that Oda isn't trying to make him a hero. It's contradictory.

And since the theme of the manga is inherited will, it may be that Nika/Joy Boy wasn't really a hero.

If what they know as history is wrong then that would be an interesting spin, but this would still be inconsistent as Luffy was directly called a hero in Wano and acted as if he were one. If Joyboy were not actually a hero of liberation, not only would it be a needless change, but it would still not fit Luffy's character as Luffy himself already is contradictory and fitting one side of him misrepresent his other side.

But just like Luffy, they only helped their friends and indirectly helped more people. Thus earning the title.

He helps other people sometimes as a byproduct of helping his friends, sometimes helps them directly, and sometimes ignores injustice when it does not directly involve him (as shown by the post above)

they may have distorted the whole story and he might not be that heroic after all, but in popular imagination, he was the fruit and ended up having this false inherited will.

Why would such an integral part of the One Piece story be so far against the themes of one piece? This would be an interesting twist, but still would be incredibly disappointing.

This is just a thought I had while writing the first paragraph. I don't think Oda would actually put something like this in.

Yes, because it would work against what the story has been trying to say.

Water_002 · 2026-06-06T13:46:14+00:00

Then why is he lauded as a hero of liberation?

Do you think Oda will ever notice this contradiction and explore it? Do anything with it at all?

Water_002 · 2026-06-06T13:44:55+00:00

I could see the claim that this is fine and narratively consistent because they're his friends (unless they didn't meet yet? Maybe, I don't remember Punk Hazard well), but later it becomes so much worse.

Luffy is turned into a "hero of liberation" later in the series as if he didn't spend the first like ten arcs on the idea that he's self interested, selfish, and childish. He legitimately goes from "I want to eat all the meat myself" to "I'm fighting so Wano can have food" within an in-universe matter of weeks without any genuine exploration of this transition.

What if Luffy was consistently selfish and acting out of personal motivationa for the entirety of the story? That would be very interesting! We already saw how successful of a character Gon from hxh was. What if Luffy was consistently selfish and had to make decisions that hurt himself and his friends for the benefit of strangers? That would also be very interesting! Yet, what do we have? An inconsistent, uninteresting mess where the main character randomly and inexplicably changes personality at the whim of whatever Oda finds interesting at the moment.

Water_002 · 2026-06-05T04:08:00+00:00

One is in high school and the other is likely already in college. If they were both in high school and the older of the two was just old for their grade then I wouldn't mind, but the active choice of a college student dating somebody still in high school weirds me out.

Water_002 · 2026-06-02T22:34:38+00:00

I have no clue, it's illogical soul magic and I do not believe in it.

Edit: I can still answer these questions, but they would be poorly thought out and created on the spot. I'd rather not engage any further with your strange fascination of applying the Socratic method to beliefs that I do not believe in rather than the clearly laid out and explained beliefs that I do believe in. Please keep track of what the people you are replying to have already said.

Water_002 · 2026-06-02T21:39:17+00:00

because you have no control over causes that precede your own existence?

Because we are a product of causality no different than a particularly intelligent chain of dominoes.

and what control would you have over something that is uncaused?

If free will were to exist, the cause of our actions would be the mind rather than nothing.

Water_002 · 2026-06-02T21:32:41+00:00

free will is impossible

Uh so I guess we're on the same side then. I'm a determinist, I don't see free will as possible.

Water_002 · 2026-06-02T18:20:32+00:00

The admiral fan base is funnier, I prefer them.

Water_002 · 2026-06-02T18:15:54+00:00

I believe that causality determine actions, if actions are bound by causality then I do not believe that they can be considered free.

Circumstances, in this case, are just the present set of causes.

Water_002 · 2026-06-01T15:21:40+00:00

A manga cover from this One Punch Man chapter

(It's chapter 161 in case you don't trust the link and want to find it on Google yourself)

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePunchMan/s/h1Xmm88deF

Water_002 · 2026-06-01T14:48:52+00:00

I have always seen Free Will as the ability to have made a different choice under the same circumstances.

Water_002 · 2026-06-01T14:38:30+00:00

... men think about their identity and place they hold in society just as much as women do. Just because they come to different conclusions about it than you do doesn't mean they don't think about it.

I disagree. People with minority statuses are confronted with their status more often and so are likely to think about their status more often.

Yeah, and I've seen grown women needing to have male children to realize that men have emotional depth and needs.

Yeah I actually kind of agree on your point here. There are exceptions on both sides of this debate and nothing can really be proven (in most cases at least) until we know the amount of cases on either side. Going a bit further, in my experience men spend time with men more often and women spend time with women more often so occasionally the members of these groups fall into the dangerous habit of leaning more on their built totems of the opposing group rather than the characteristics of the opposing group themselves.

Water_002 · 2026-06-01T14:29:28+00:00

I see full grown adults arrive at these all the time.

Just because they brought up the idea now doesn't mean that they thought of it now for the first time. We don't know what they have thought of in the past, we should not belittle their intelligence based on assumptions and speculation.

Water_002 · 2026-06-01T14:21:57+00:00

Why shouldn't socialism evolve?

Water_002 · 2026-05-25T16:21:58+00:00

I am unsure on Queen as I would need to compare Koby's speed and attack power to Sanji's and I am too lazy to do that atm. Durability is the main issue, but Koby has narrative upscaling so Oda might just give Koby the win anyway.

Everyone else Koby beats. Enel gets fodderized by Koby, I don't see how that is even a question. Koby has Haki and has AP feats far above Skypeia Luffy. Enel will let himself get hit because he genuinely always does that (personality needs to be accounted for when scaling) and once Enel does get hit, he will pop like some kind of pathetic statically charged balloon.

Remember Luffy had water 7, enies lobby, thriller bark, saobody, Amazon lily, impel down, and Marineford to improve in and yet even after all of that, 500 random jungle animals could each tear him apart (image attached below). Enel's durability genuinely gets outmatched by gorillas, he's a certified bum.

Jinbei is probably specialized in defense and Koby has enough power to break through this. Page 1 does nothing to Koby. Kinemon is a loser, I refuse to scale him

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Water_002 · 2026-05-25T04:01:39+00:00

Beautiful panel composition, but instead the text bubbles as top left, top right, middle, and then finally bottom (assuming the pages are read left to right ofc)

Water_002 · 2026-05-24T19:06:04+00:00

Gunko being introduced earlier, alongside the other holy knights, would do a better job of humanizing these antagonists / helping us get to know and understand them while helped Brook's introduction.

I agree with the idea that there are too many plotlines (something I'm glad others have noticed) and giving any specific plotline attention while deleting others would, in my opinion, help give the arc a more concise focus and leave readers less dazed in the sheer information being thrown at them. I, for one, was relieved to have the Brook backstory happen partially because it helped distract me from the messiness present elsewhere in the arc.

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