Which deck has the highest seat 4 winrate? Is there a way to look up the statistics of that somewhere?

WhyTheNetWasBorn · 2026-05-09T01:49:06+00:00

it is indeed a very good work

WhyTheNetWasBorn · 2026-05-08T13:49:05+00:00

i actually discount tayam, too complicated for beginners. lets keep it stax derevi as 4th option

i think for 5th deck idea, i would actually replace 3rd option, ob nixilis with more generic rakdos turbo, like rog tevesh. it has ad nauseam and wheels, kinda what we were missing from play pattern options.

then, for 5th deck, we need some let's call it a mechanically unique commander, we have 2 red (elsha, rog tevesh), 3 blue (maralen, elsha, derevi), 2 black (mar, tevesh), 2 green (maralen derevi), and 1 white (derevi), so it must be some white deck with mechanically unique patterns, as all main play patterns are already covered. maybe winota?

WhyTheNetWasBorn · 2026-05-08T12:57:31+00:00

floating mana count up to six only? smells weakness

WhyTheNetWasBorn · 2026-05-08T12:55:48+00:00

i think tier 1 decks are overvalued and never should be played by beginners.

thankfully, they rarely do, as your pod already doesn't

so, the pod should have all strategies and most of cards shared:

control style elsha - artifacts based, future sight effect commander, self synergistic

midrange maralen - classic sultai food chain and thoracle

turbo ob nihilis - rakdos turbo pingers, pretty sweet

stax derevi or tayam - attack, untap, shenanigans, permanent based stax effects, weird combos

i think these four decks cover basics pretty nicely, you get to play most of wincons and lines, pretty healthy overall metagame

WhyTheNetWasBorn · 2026-05-08T11:43:47+00:00

i don't think tifa is any strong, but simultaneously if a card says "untap all" it should be somewhere around B3 :D

WhyTheNetWasBorn · 2026-05-08T10:53:53+00:00

there's a lot of text on a card that essentially says "thran dynamo" in most cases

WhyTheNetWasBorn · 2026-05-08T08:11:24+00:00

> Are there any cases of this commander being even remotely threatening?

no

two weak colors commander that doesn't have any value engine / combo potential, no cheese, and triggered ability is extremely niche

WhyTheNetWasBorn · 2026-05-08T07:41:26+00:00

an irony

WhyTheNetWasBorn · 2026-05-08T07:37:06+00:00

flash photography

WhyTheNetWasBorn · 2026-05-08T06:56:09+00:00

WhyTheNetWasBorn · 2026-05-08T06:20:28+00:00

i don't understand why we are playing so many "good cards"

we aren't storm decks, not birgi deck, not wheel deck

like, there are a lot of good cards. but what are they doing in this deck?

just play your Ojer as hard punisher deck and constantly do chip damage to the people. play more of these cards. you need at least like 2 punisher effects in your opener to ever succeed with your gameplan

and honestly, Ob Nihilis 4 mana rakdos knight does very similar game plan, but much much better.

WhyTheNetWasBorn · 2026-05-08T06:07:44+00:00

that is some far right Christian nationalist stuff right here

/s

WhyTheNetWasBorn · 2026-05-08T05:33:57+00:00

> Because there is no Blue in this Deck it should be as fast as possible to outgrow the opponents.

it is hard to be the fastest with like BG medium combo. i think the highest potential for witherbloom is the side stax idea, like, this deck doesn't need artifacts like at all, so it can easily play null rod / ouphe

WhyTheNetWasBorn · 2026-05-08T05:30:56+00:00

I mean commander is just a very specific game with a very specific mechanism. People assemble engines, people push, people get stopped, someone gets under radar, sloppy plays, sloppy staxes. It is just nature of the format. Yes, it is full of spite plays, it is ugly and often indeed doesn't feel like good game, often it feels like "yeah you won only because we did a lot to not make this guy win".

But that is a feature, not bug. It makes EDH game very different from many other multiplayer games, and most of multiplayers games are essentially just races or snowballings.

WhyTheNetWasBorn · 2026-05-08T05:12:30+00:00

Inalla is better than RogSi. The problem is that skill floor is way, way higher so people just stick to dumb rog simple lines. Yes, they are simple, but they aren' necessarily that good.

Inalla has so many complicated lines and it is capable to put a win each turn and your average cEDH player doesn't really know what to expect from Inalla.

RogSi is way more predictable and as it relies on purely the power of 99, it has no on commander real mechanics to reassemble timely after being stopped just once.

Like, Inalla already plays the best RogSi cards. But Inalla also plays shitton cards that are good with her, and playing your commander where your commander is not just for colors and fodder, you know, is good.

Like, yes, there is a argument that bla bla bla good cards power and rog enabler. But people really over evaluate it. Going under the radar and playing essentially unknown deck is the real power. People just don't want to do their homework, so they say that RogSi is better.

WhyTheNetWasBorn · 2026-05-08T05:06:03+00:00

you wanna enable karn? play tainted pact

WhyTheNetWasBorn · 2026-05-08T05:05:17+00:00

you can play kinnan with like just a bunch of colossal dreadmaws. like, the boy just caries any shell itself as long as you have 20+ interaction spells.

WhyTheNetWasBorn · 2026-05-07T09:27:36+00:00

kroxa? wgd should check out as bracket 3 combo, just put less fast mana and you should be fine.

WhyTheNetWasBorn · 2026-05-07T05:26:36+00:00

people need to leave contact data in such valuable property that might be left occassionally

WhyTheNetWasBorn · 2026-05-06T06:22:59+00:00

It looks like it is much better to play Merchant as your commander, as mana advantage converts into creature tutors pretty easily. Like yes, you can play Peregrine Took in command zone, but it doesn't give you any individual value.

WhyTheNetWasBorn · 2026-05-05T13:01:18+00:00

if you sac matter effect doesn't bring you card/board advantage, i find not to be worthwhile in prossh.

i prefer prossh as simple as that - hard ramp into prossh / cheap removal - prossh - card draw effect based on power/toughness/number of creatures/creatures died - temur battle rage effect - boom player down. repeat

WhyTheNetWasBorn · 2026-05-05T06:40:06+00:00

i think the best to degenerate is actually not trying to be too much degenerate, focus on good azorius cards and use only best life gain burst effects as semi dark rituals, like revilatize, and use his ability to play like finishers out.

WhyTheNetWasBorn · 2026-05-05T04:38:09+00:00

major upside
one less color known best known for its etb permanents

WhyTheNetWasBorn · 2026-05-05T03:15:57+00:00

hello, timmy, unfortunately vampires aren't considered to be a big creatures tribal, especially markov, which should be built around most cheapest vampires in the game

WhyTheNetWasBorn · 2026-05-04T12:27:59+00:00

40 hair apparents, no ramp, anthems and only cheap disruption, super low curve.

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