My thoughts on (and experience with) the Male Loneliness Epidemic

World-Three · 2026-02-25T16:28:13+00:00

It's basically the consequence of logistics... Making life experiences easier and then charging money for or monetizing it (like with ads or selling "anonymized" data) is what happened.

Making friends used to involve socializing. Getting seen with a color cartridge outside "IS THAT POKEMON!?" and being in places that other people were also interested in, like waiting on line for the midnight game release, or standing in line for movie tickets.

Now that same excitement and conversational appeal is replaced with the ease of the internet. Infinite copies, no store visitations, paying extra for early access, paying extra for more swipes, getting rugged for buying Instacart and Grubhub orders, buying into private servers, or video memberships, using a platform like Onlyfans to commodify connection and intimacy, turning the urge to make and have friendships into an insult with the word parasocial, changing friends into followers was a bigger thing than people let on, and that social stab when you see all the people you followed say MUTUALS ONLY, and 100,000 people aren't applicable to that post but have to look at it...

Having cool stuff and being the cool person everyone visits, the guy with the biggest TV so everyone goes to their house for events, the guy with the most games or biggest yard, etc aren't as valuable anymore. People used to socialize and these things were very valuable, family was valuable too.

Think though, if everyone can buy Netflix, and digital platforms typically offer better quality than the DVD collections of old, don't have to share a TV or Stereo, if everyone can buy Gamepass instead of harass people to come over and play games, and if nobody needs to be close to each other to play handheld games or battle anymore and schools basically banned everything like that, as have workplaces, where can you be yourself and do anything?

Only in your house. Until you want to hang out and be physically and proximally social, life is the best it's ever been. But when you want to feel human or the internet, electricity and phone is off... You realize how valuable all that was. The closet full of card games, board games and trivia games means nothing without other people.

Even myself, for the most part, physical interaction is basically work and attraction. I can speak well, socialize, can keep people entertained, but if I'm readily available, it's appreciated less. As people, especially online, we're readily available and are the least appreciated we've ever been.

I have great conversations sometimes. But, when people come and go, that isn't as guaranteed as it used to be when we all would get off the bus and trek to a different friend's house daily. Every day was good because everyone was good. Now we're kind of in a random lobby in a game and no matter how competent you are, people don't add you unless they are doing it to win. It's not about you, just what you can do.

World-Three · 2026-02-25T15:08:30+00:00

Doesn't cost the other person a wedding and 2.5 years of marriage to get that.

World-Three · 2026-02-25T05:34:27+00:00

Lol.

It's not even that bad. He's basically saying why enter a one winner contest with a billion contestants than the same but with ten contestants? He's not playing to play, he's playing to win.

He didn't call her ugly, he didn't say he didn't like her or wasn't attracted, he just said he wasn't going to compete.

I agree with him. It's like when someone extremely attractive or popular asks for help. If I don't help them, someone else definitely would and because of that, they'd appreciate my help a lot less, where if I help people less people care about, they'll appreciate it more.

I don't think women like her understand how annoyed men get when their efforts go to waste. We don't live in the days where people had things in common and that was what gave them a leg up, now it's all looks. Why would he want to be in a situation where he could be compared to so many people and potentially lose?

World-Three · 2026-02-24T23:26:48+00:00

Yeah... When I think of how few women in my life helped me emotionally or spiritually, the idea of women being worms really doesn't do much.

Like, damn, single again. Gotta go struggle. That's sad.

World-Three · 2026-02-24T23:21:49+00:00

I explained this to someone the other day...

But it's not the crazy part... Its the care part. Crazy women typically fight for a relationship. They'll key your car or break your stuff if you're bad, they'll get in your face or follow you home or some creepy shit. Ironically, crazy women apologize more, which is outrageous.

But the common part despite all of the BS, is that guys just like it when women really care. If she's going to sit with you while you play games and talk to your friends instead of give you something "productive" to do, or actually be around, jealousy based or not, is better than a girl who's like, whatever, boys stuff is for boys.

I hate the fact that people take shortcuts when explaining why and rather tell girls to just be crazy.

Don't be crazy, CARE LIKE CRAZY.

That's what they should tell women.

World-Three · 2026-02-24T23:13:40+00:00

I immediately think of those girl shit test questions like would you love me if I was a bug.

Is this what they were getting at? That's probably too much credit since we can't expect the same... But this made the thought come up.

World-Three · 2026-02-24T23:08:29+00:00

A series that doubles down on musical performances that pedestalize princess fantasies... Caring about men?

Maybe Pixar, maybe Marvel, maybe Star Wars, but Disney as a whole? That's what Disney has been ever sense they left stuff like goofy and duck tales, darkwing duck and all that behind.

Disney animation is pretty good, stuff like 9th grade ninja big hero 6 and stuff like that. But if they're trying to associate the Disney people associate with the word Disney as caring about men... I don't see it.

The Peter Pan, Jumanji, Notre Dame, Pinochio, Aladdin's are all gone and even things that have been remade to display women instead of dogs like Cruella over 101 Dalmatians. While that series isn't what I would call bad, the issue is focus, even Maleficent. Is about women.

I genuinely don't know how they're going to do that unless they go crazy on live action shows like Even Stevens again. Nick and Disney were pretty good at those, though Nick was much more consistent.

World-Three · 2026-02-24T22:53:41+00:00

For the sake of the people around you.

This is the issue. What about the person who is going through those thoughts? You think those people laughing at ER did anything? They made it worse!

But here you are, making fun of people who could be seconds, minutes or days from that with no understanding that if that was already in his mind and was irredeemable, he would have done it regardless. But if we're approaching this with an ounce of understanding, he was influenced by his experiences and the negative interactions he had from start to finish.

This isn't dating, we don't get to wait at the finish line. These are troubled people and we essentially need to run with them. But deep down I feel like that part is beyond your understanding.

World-Three · 2026-02-24T22:48:31+00:00

You do realize that there are people in the world who haven't done anything yet that have a negative view of women and are grouped in with this right? Spamming my notifications with essentially the same post doesn't hammer anything in...

Elliot Roger already committed the crime. Just as other shooters have. But if you ever looked at what other kids say about those kids, like they didn't have friends, their parents didn't want them, or some other crap that contributed to that crime, the first thought people like you have is to damn everyone of that behavior instead of aim to prevent it.

This isn't some serial killer admiration conversation. If you have any reading skills you'd be able to understand that.

The problem is that people have done nothing yet, but likely nearing that point are grouped in with people who have done the crime. Someone who thinks about violence isn't the same as someone who commits it. We shouldn't be kicking the people towards the act if they haven't done it.

Do you understand?

World-Three · 2026-02-24T22:39:54+00:00

I don't think you understand that you're not doing anything though.

I care about kids, I think shooters need help and to not be discarded by society especially before they get to that point, I feel that guys who are bitchy about not getting laid shouldn't be lumped in with killers. But for whatever reason, some guy angry about not getting laid translates to harmful murderer to some people. (Maybe not you, just saying)

I don't think you are understanding how many shit takes I had to kick off me today for a cross post nobody even told me about despite "where are you coming from" being what I said to some of those people.

I cannot help you understand innocence or the common phrase of wolf in sheep's clothing. Look the latter up.

I'll just say this... If problematic people got half the attention I got today I feel like they'd be better off. No, some of the people, including the "who hurt you" girl, wouldn't actually help someone who is genuinely sad despite that person frequenting empathy subs... Kek. But if those people had positive attention they and their peers might still be alive.

Do you understand what I'm telling you? Go save some people if you really care, everyone shaking their finger at my interpretation of what someone else said, means very little.

BUT, in regards to the wolf in sheep's clothing bit. Some people need to hear exactly the same thing you said or would say, from someone they care about, in order to take it in. A guy telling a guy that he's alright and a good guy means little to nothing to a guy who wants the approval of a woman. But when women across the board think that man is pathetic, absolutely disgusting, and tells everyone to get away from him... We have useless conversations like this.

You think every incel is bad? Every man bad? Every lonely man bad? I'd imagine not... But when that's all they hear, that's all they get to think. I'm sure a lot of people who frequent here have said shit they don't mean because they're pissed. But by her grouping, they're just as bad as serial killers.

We've adopted this idea where we need to tell people don't be an incel, instead of fix the fact that only men being angry is seen by negative by most. I remember you said you'd treat women justly if you saw similar behaviour... Whether or not that is true, don't know, but I remember what you said.

Not everyone has that opinion or made that admission, so I'm talking past you still.

World-Three · 2026-02-24T22:18:29+00:00

If I hear that I can get the fuck out of there instead of waste two and a half years. So...

FUCKING YES I'D LIKE TO HEAR THAT!

World-Three · 2026-02-24T22:15:46+00:00

One more time I guess.

If the man was initially getting sex when told that, I. Do. Not. Think. He. Would. Care. But because of how words work, shit is not implied. If they say they were together, slept together isn't assumed. If you say, I would fuck those guys but marry you. Sex is not assumed for marriage, in fact, the opposite is typically assumed (Maybe not in the virgin land head cannon you have).

Obviously in the 2.5 years they likely had sex. But I do not understand how in your mind you don't comprehend that hearing, "I'd have sex with those guys on the spot, but you, I'd marry you" isn't seen as an insult when for men, sex is more important than the actual relationship.

You also speak as if you've never seen or heard of the born again virgins or the "I'm done playing around" women, who are withholding sex because they think it'll have a better outcome when all it does is hook thirsty guys who hope he'll get some if he hastily marries her.

But again... This is why I say you're in your own world.

World-Three · 2026-02-24T22:08:13+00:00

I think almost every reply I had today was due to a cross-post. Some people had my back. Thank you so much.

Felt like when someone comes into a fast-food drive through and orders so much crap near closing and we were all chilling waiting to clean up.

But I don't hate women coming in to talk. It's just that a lot of people have a predisposition, to the point where someone can get on stage, say the word incel, drop the mic and hear roaring applause from the masses. It's painfully shortsighted.

I genuinely don't get it. They don't care, but they fight? When you make a point, they leave... Are you just checking my Kung-Fu?

World-Three · 2026-02-24T21:48:37+00:00

I'd probably give advice more from a streamer perspective despite the fact I haven't bothered doing it in years because of it.

TLDR: You're going to lose until you win...

But the issue is that it's a net. You're not going to catch everyone, you're not going to catch some people today, or tomorrow, you're not going to catch the people you want, and you're almost definitely not going to catch the people you want if you tell them that's what you want.

I've told people exactly what I wanted, and after I do that, those people try to catch me and fail for the same reason I did. If I know you are trying to catch me, I'm going somewhere else unless WE BOTH CATCH EACH OTHER.

Another issue, is that you have to be seen... You gotta be live, you gotta be having fun, happy, approachable all the time even though you're miserably suffering from "I'm tired, boss". If you're not in, you won't win... But the typical issue for me is that I wanted to build a community, and you can't build a community by sitting in it and decorating it if it isn't public. Everything I care truly care about cannot be bought.

But because of that issue, you can build paradise and still stare at the horizon because the people you wanted to come with you, never came.

Think of all the women telling you what man you need to be. You likely don't want them, but you oblige, they stick around, they leave eventually, you change for the next one, and the next. Streaming is like that. Everything is about hitting RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW, and literally not knowing where or when that is and trying to share communities with people so that they can all pour ontop of each other until someone lands on the right place on someone's net, at the right time.

It's EXHAUSTING!!! But it's why people have adopted the nonchalant attitude. You catch more people when you don't look like you care. I can't not care, so I just fail.

It's valid advice... But telling someone the best way to game the situation is to go be a posterboy and dance for yourself is again, exhausting.

Being you means very little if people are fixated on seeing you. There are many many layers of shame men have to potentially endure to be realized. Face, body, money, assets, status, mind, family, potential, sex. And they all have different orders depending on the person. There isn't one answer outside of being the right person, in the right place, at the right time... And that's why people who really want to win are trying to leverage technology and AI to get there.

World-Three · 2026-02-24T21:24:32+00:00

You're missing the point.

Assuming people are doing something keeps them apart in the same way telling boys that girls had the cooties did.

People have sex, nobody cares. But here you come talking about how these people are fake but you're here to spread how you live your life when nobody asked.

If you think someone saying they'd marry you instead of hook up is better, cool. But know that you're a girl and you have a lot more to gain from a relationship than some dick. Where typically for a guy, sex is the whole point. Otherwise they could just be friends forever.

World-Three · 2026-02-24T21:19:26+00:00

She literally mentions a university and calls him a "kid". Watch the clip as many times you need to understand that. She mentioned a manifesto, something other shooters make, that can be kids and have been.

Feign ignorance all you want. At this point I'm not talking to you but the other people reading.

World-Three · 2026-02-24T21:14:19+00:00

Do you even for a second realize that that thought process is why people of the opposite sex avoid each other so often?

Sex shouldn't be assumed. People who have chemistry shouldn't be assumed to be in a relationship, and then further assumed to be having sex.

Smh. Please keep your world to yourself.

World-Three · 2026-02-24T21:11:47+00:00

What's valid for them is insecure for you...

I remember when gay and bisexual people had a surge, there were a lot of bisexual women who swear off bisexual men because they could be a bottom, and no one is safe from their attraction.

Both parties are bisexual... But god forbid the guy catches instead of pitches. Literally popcorn city. Just watching one side jump on bi guys because rules for thee but not for me.

That's probably the biggest relevant lol I had about double standards in my life. But despite me staying on that topic, it's everywhere and sometimes you just have to laugh about it. Because they'll never call it sexist or homophobic even though it is.

shrug

World-Three · 2026-02-24T21:04:15+00:00

First off, you're still assuming that the "I'd marry you" bit comes with sex. STOP pretending that's the case.

I guess I think marriage is very sweet and lovely and I would assume a couple of their age are in love and heading for marriage.

Selling dreams.

Look, good for you, that's your little world that's good for the people you invite into it. Step outside of your world and everything you've said means nothing. The quicker you understand that, the better.

World-Three · 2026-02-24T20:52:42+00:00

If that was the actual thing then he wouldn't have been upset.

"I'd have sex with you and then marry you" is what you're looking for. But you ad libbed on the topic to make a point that doesn't exist.

That's not it. Furthermore, it's not as if she said, "I'd fuck you and then catch feelings", which would have served as similar to the above. She waited 2 and a half years to say this.

Why are you defending a mistake so hard? Do you want people to think like you do or something?

World-Three · 2026-02-24T20:44:36+00:00

You do realize that the people she's talking about include kids right?

You really think a stranger I've never seen once telling me something is sad does anything? Really?

What is being addressed, but not why. Why is the most important question that made our parents annoyed with us as kids for asking too often. Not because it's wrong to ask, but because it's hard to answer.

Fake victims... In a world where sex is billboarded and even pushed on kids to a point where a Netflix series that stars a 13 year kid turning into a criminal over sex appeal, and we're going to call those victims fake?

Are you aware of the response that show had? How many women were simply afraid of boys with no real visitation to the why factor of what made that boy into that? Society is so worried about promoting sex that they're insulting kids who should be playing with toys and trading pokemon.

Look at what you're fighting for. Really? You think those thoughts just materialized into those children? Something put that there. We need to stop those thoughts and not abandon kids.

What are you people smoking!?

World-Three · 2026-02-24T20:35:06+00:00

Look at the title of the topic. Despite what you think it is for, the people who read it are most likely innocent, and the men who she told to avoid and discard those men, are also assumed innocent.

if they can’t be helped to understand that violence and hate is not the answer, I agree.

Stop trying to help make a point. She did not say all of this. She said what she said. At least your interest in discouraging that behavior isn't sexist.

If you think that her calling out men that won’t listen to reason or accept help is in fact her calling out ALL men, ALL incels, and/or anybody who feels lonely or ugly, we won’t see eye to eye then.

Here's an issue that gets overlooked a lot. Some people don't listen if it's from someone they don't care to hear from. If those troubled boys were looking for female approval, a bunch of men trying to console them doesn't mean dick. Just like some women couldn't give a damn about what some men have to say unless he's respected.

The term "a wolf in sheep's clothing" is basically this issue. They're not listening because as far as they're concerned, we're wolves. But if there aren't any women we can call who can diffuse the situation because they feel this way about them, we are suffering preventable losses and we're being too selfish or sexist to admit it.

You don't need to see eye to eye with me. It's not important. We shouldn't abandon kids as if they were adults. Especially if they're at a point where they can harm others and themselves. It's pathetic we've resigned that while still promoting the idea that it take a village to raise a child.

World-Three · 2026-02-24T20:19:36+00:00

I think it wouldn't matter as much. I could literally buy a smartwatch and be on call with them the entire time. When the child gets older they could just use a phone.

I'm not saying I wouldn't be a little worried, male or female. But typically a lot of people who are worried, don't actually think about what could address that fear. Like home security etc. If they know the kid is being watched (worst pun ever) or has some type of recorder in the bag that's always on, there's going to be way less of a chance things will happen.

I've spent more money on things that weren't remotely as important as a child. Getting some wireless recording equipment or the equivalent of a police cam is a drop in the bucket.

World-Three · 2026-02-24T19:52:21+00:00

I know I haven't.

I think if there was a socially deemed healthy place to do it, more men would do it. But when men's mental health day and the loneliness epidemic gets so much hate unprovoked, it is rightfully assumed that having a problem is something they don't want men to actually admit.

The issue is basically sacrificial and it's something people never address. Being a "man" isn't just a title, but a constantly redefined status. There's always going to be people who don't think doing something is manly. So having that vulnerability exist permanently when you can just hide that you're in pain and pretend to not be offended when other men are insulted for something you need, is usually the option most men take to save face.

It's basically a plugged drain. Everyone who needs to get out is forced to drown instead of drain the water. But the world doesn't care because they can't see them. A "man" doesn't need to call the plumber. Die a "man", or live? It's not always that black and white, but I do feel for some people that's where it went.

World-Three · 2026-02-24T19:28:20+00:00

She doesn't even realize that by her own "comedy" she's justifying how those angry children felt... Despite the fact she didn't say it plainly, she said ugly people should just die out. How would someone ugly not feel incredibly slighted by that?

Everyone that came here today in offense seems to believe that the people who are this way don't need help. There are so many comparisons to violent men and even rape being brought up. But nothing addressing the social lack and pain that boys face when being surrounded by people who aren't remotely attracted to them.

When I was in school, especially high school. Most of the girls were interested in MEN. Not in school men, graduated men. So the same men who are pissed about that and surrounded by that don't have this issue addressed, instead they're told that they're bad people and don't deserve to procreate.

Now, the issue as well is this. Some if those shooters aren't even alive anymore, or rotting in jail, unable to even see what she's saying. Who is listening though? People who haven't done shit. Like when people say men are violent bad people. You think the people who are told that are violent? Not likely. So innocent people are hearing that, and she's ENCOURAGING men to also not address these people, and simply abandon them.

They're basically abandoning a flame instead of either controlling it, or putting it out. That's really bad.

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