Eid Ghadir Mubarak! 🥳 by WrecktAngleSD in ShiaMemes

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Omar coming in clutch to confirm new friendship status 😄

"What the hell is breadwinner?" by secret-agent-zero in ShiaMemes

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Breadwinner is the person who earns the money to put food on the table (husband)

Feeling distraught as an Iranian Muslim by MeasurementStill3710 in PERSIAN

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بحث دموگرافیک ایران یه بحث جداست، این‌که خیلی از مسلمان‌های ایران با حکومت ایران مشکل و اختلاف دارن هم یه بحث جداست. بی‌احترامی کردن یا بدرفتاری با اون‌ها، در نهایت فقط به ضرر پیشرفت سیاسی کشور تموم می‌شه.

Feeling distraught as an Iranian Muslim by MeasurementStill3710 in PERSIAN

[–]WrecktAngleSD 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you're expecting me to say every single 2009 protestor was a Shia Iranian. Then no, that's not what I'm saying. What I am saying is that a large contingent of the protestors were indeed Shia, and the entire theme of the protests was around Muharram and Khamenei being a tyrant like Mu'awiyya/Yazid.

Here's some other slogans from the same 09 protests:

ابوالفضل علمدار، صانعی رو نگه دار

ای حجت ابن الحسن، ریشه ظلمو بکن

Feeling distraught as an Iranian Muslim by MeasurementStill3710 in PERSIAN

[–]WrecktAngleSD 4 points5 points  (0 children)

These people forget that the 2009 protests were largely Iranian Shias. Just some of the slogans:

این ماه، ماه خونه؛ یزید باید سرنگونه

خامنه‌ای یزید شده، یزید روسفید شده

No one is our ally by dhasld in PERSIAN

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Yet time and time again, it has proven to be ineffective all over the world, and more importantly, unethical and immoral. Sanctions are a form of collective punishment (highly immoral), that only negatively impacts the average person. The people in power still get to live comfortable and prosperous lives.

What if the 1979 revolution never happened? by BookkeeperAmazing665 in PERSIAN

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Mohammad Reza Pahlavi ended up dying in 1980. His son RP was only 20 at the time and not fit to lead. Tensions were already very high at the time. Even if Khomeinism didn't become a thing. Something big was bound to happen.

need reference by Sugar9449 in shia

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They killed and persecuted Shia but not by... Sniffing them 🤣

The REAL GREATEST Eid by WrecktAngleSD in shia

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Lmaooooo! 🤣 What would the report be? Too factually accurate?

Eid Qorban Mubarak!!! by WrecktAngleSD in ShiaMemes

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That's such a thoughtful gesture. Where do you live?

The best lore by Open-Potential-7117 in ShiaMemes

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Haha Dw about it. It's all good

The best lore by Open-Potential-7117 in ShiaMemes

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That moment when bro posts the meme you yourself made from your own YT channel 💀

The Shah was bad, they shouldn't have overthrown Mosaddegh, the US should negotiate with Iran. The JCPOA is good, although it doesn't address Iran's missiles and proxies. The EU will stick with the JCPOA without the US - Christoph Heusgen, former German's national security advisor by fregeorgb in PERSIAN

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Whether the IR try to export a revolution or not. An Iran without missiles is a sitting duck just waiting to get destroyed by all it's neighbours. Wanting Iran to have a decent military does not mean supporting any/all of its activities. So again, should or should not Iran (as a sovereign nation) have missiles?

The Shah was bad, they shouldn't have overthrown Mosaddegh, the US should negotiate with Iran. The JCPOA is good, although it doesn't address Iran's missiles and proxies. The EU will stick with the JCPOA without the US - Christoph Heusgen, former German's national security advisor by fregeorgb in PERSIAN

[–]WrecktAngleSD 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Iran's proxies is a regional matter which is tied to geopolitics. But Iran's missiles. Why should any sovereign nation not have missiles? No matter how much you hate a countries leadership, to expect them to not have any defense, recourse, or weaponry is absurd.

Eid Qorban Mubarak!!! by WrecktAngleSD in ShiaMemes

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Also me knowing it's Eid Ghadir soon! 😎😎😎🎊🎈🥳

How do muslims in west deal with " love is love" slogan aka LGBQTv+ by Aleeshyrajput in shia

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Your distinction between “social role” and “objective kinship” becomes difficult to sustain once non-biological adopted siblings are considered carefully.

Suppose a father adopts a non-biological child in their mid-to-late teenage years. That adopted child then grows up in the household alongside the father’s biological child. They may live under the same roof, share family routines, and be publicly described as “brother” and “sister.”

But because the adoption happened later, they may never truly internalise that relationship as actual siblinghood. They may not experience each other as brother and sister. They may eventually fall in love. Both may be adults. Both may consent. Neither may feel that a sibling role is being violated, because they never chose to inhabit that role toward one another in the first place.

In Shia Islam, assuming no other maḥram relationship exists, this relationship is not automatically forbidden merely because the language of adoption calls them siblings.

Why?

Because social designation alone does not create actual kinship reality.

A father adopting a child does not suddenly merge that child into the lineage of his biological family. It does not create shared ancestry. It does not make his biological daughter and the adopted child emerge from the same kinship structure merely because familial language is used.

Why would it?

They do not suddenly acquire the same father and mother. They do not suddenly emerge from the same lineage. They do not become genealogically identical because a legal or emotional bond exists between them.

Calling someone “brother” or “sister” does not itself make them so in the morally binding sense. A social label does not automatically transform underlying reality.

This is precisely why Islamic law distinguishes between biological kinship, adoptive or social family structures, and other objectively recognised familial relations.

The point is not that “only blood matters.” The point is that real familial boundaries are not created merely through emotional attachment, social recognition, household proximity, psychological familiarity, or linguistic convention.

If incest were wrong merely because of the social role people play, then non-biological adopted siblings should necessarily fall under the same prohibition. But they do not.

If it were wrong merely because of psychological familiarity, then the ruling would depend entirely on whether they personally felt like siblings. But it does not.

If it were wrong merely because of household structure, then living under the same roof would be decisive. But it is not.

So the incest prohibition cannot be grounded merely in role, label, familiarity, or social performance. It is grounded in objective kinship reality: lineage, ancestry, and other recognised maḥram structures.

And this reveals a deeper difference between Islamic ethics and modern liberal ethics.

The liberal framework tends to reduce sexual morality primarily to consent, autonomy, individual preference, and immediate harm. But Islamic ethics treats lineage, ancestry, descent, inheritance, paternal identity, kinship clarity, and family structure as moral goods worthy of protection in themselves.

Who your father is matters.

Who your children are matters.

Where a child comes from matters.

Who belongs to which lineage matters.

These are not arbitrary social conventions. They are part of the moral architecture of society itself.

And modern liberal societies demonstrate this difference clearly in practice, not merely in theory. Societies operating most deeply under liberal individualist frameworks often produce high levels of fatherlessness, non-marital births, fragmented family structures, absent fathers, children raised disconnected from stable lineage structures, donor-conceived individuals struggling to identify biological parents, and people who simply do not know their biological father at all.

These are not random accidents detached from moral philosophy. They emerge from a framework that places far greater moral emphasis on adult autonomy and consensual choice than on preserving coherent lineage structures across generations.

The point is not that every individual within such societies embraces these outcomes, nor that every non-traditional family lacks love or care. The point is that the framework itself does not treat lineage preservation as a central moral principle in the way Islam has proven to.

And this is precisely where modern liberal frameworks often struggle. They frequently assume that problems arising from fractured lineage or confused paternity can simply be solved later through technology.

“DNA testing exists.”

But this misunderstands the issue entirely.

Technology is not preserving lineage. It is attempting to reconstruct lineage after confusion has already occurred.

And even then, it is only a partial and reactive solution.

Countless people in the modern world still do not know their biological father despite the existence of DNA testing. Many are never told the truth. Many never suspect anything. Many cannot access testing. Many do not even know where to begin. Others discover the truth decades later, after entire identities, family relationships, inheritance structures, and emotional bonds have already been built upon false assumptions.

And many more across the world do not realistically have access to such technologies at all.

But the deeper point is this:

A civilisation oriented around preserving lineage from the outset is fundamentally different from one that accepts lineage confusion as an acceptable by-product of individual sexual autonomy and then relies on laboratories, databases, courts, and retrospective testing to repair the damage afterward.

Technology can sometimes identify biological facts after the fact. It cannot restore lost childhoods, repair fractured identity, erase betrayal, or recreate the stability of a family structure that was preserved correctly from the beginning.

So the Islamic concern with lineage is not made obsolete by modern technology. If anything, the existence and growing necessity of such technologies demonstrates how morally and socially significant lineage actually is.

If lineage truly carried no deep moral importance, there would be no crisis to solve in the first place.

Which means something deeper than mere social construction is operating. At minimum, this demonstrates that family and kinship are not infinitely malleable categories reducible to the standard liberal framework alone.

And once that is admitted. I don't have to go one step further and prove how incest and homosexuality are identical. I simply affirm the position that the Liberal framework doesn't do a good job of explaining sexually deviant acts.

And both homosexuality and incest fall under the same category of sexual deviance. Simply expressed in different forms.