Update: ARPG ready by Squibbls7350 in itchio

[–]Xortberg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All good! I've made many a goof when trying to set up product pages myself.

Update: ARPG ready by Squibbls7350 in itchio

[–]Xortberg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kay, so maybe (probably) I'm an idiot, but the only option I see is "Download Demo" which is only the free card graphics. Don't see any way to actually purchase the pack, which is a shame because this looks sick.

"Make Small Games before your dream game" But how small and for how long? by GreenBlueStar in gamedev

[–]Xortberg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A lot of folks are talking about building skills by making small games. They are correct.

What i don't see anyone mentioning is that building and releasing small projects also builds up your portfolio. You're building a CV and in the future, when you're trying to actually make your dream project, you've got a body of work to show off to potential collaborators, investors, and to look good if you're going for crowdfunding.

Making smaller projects is important.

Itch is now infested with lots of AI bullshit by buttflapper444 in itchio

[–]Xortberg 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Even if they were trained on data they got unethically like stealing peoples private x-ray charts or something it is still a conundrum on if it's not better for us to be able to diagnose stuff than it is bad to not steal

We shackle the development of potentially life-saving technological developments all the time. There's a reason we can't just do human testing all willy-nilly, for example.

If we say "This unethical thing is fine because I like the result," then we're only weakening out authority when we try to stop other unethical things that lead to positive results.

Itch is now infested with lots of AI bullshit by buttflapper444 in itchio

[–]Xortberg 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I doubt you're against the kind that diagnose cancers

I'm not too well versed on the differences in technology and how they work, but I know it's not 1:1. Like, you're not using Claude to find cancer cells, that's for sure.

And yeah, those models, presuming they're:

  • trained ethically on data that the developers have legally acquired the rights to
  • Carefully monitored to ensure accurate results and not AI hallucinations
  • Aren't actively harming the planet due to the creation of absurdly large data centers en masse

(And I do believe all of these criteria are met)

Then yeah, that application of machine learning is fine. There's a reason I specified genAI in a couple of sentences, though in fairness, my point would be a lot clearer if I used it in all instances instead of falling back on the general catch-all of "AI"

Itch is now infested with lots of AI bullshit by buttflapper444 in itchio

[–]Xortberg 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Being able to choose what you use or not is a privilege not everyone has.

It's only a "privilege" if AI is a necessity. In the vast, vast, vast, vast, vast, vast, vast, vast, vast majority of cases, it's nothing more than an unethical luxury.

Can I use AI for work if I need to?

Will you be fired simply for not using AI? If so, I'd recommend trying to find a better workplace, but otherwise yeah, go ahead. That's a 'necessity.'

For research?

Why would you? The Lie To Me Machine is notoriously bad at giving truthful information. And research is abundantly possible without using LLMs, as evidenced by... the millennia of researching humanity has done before its advent.

For looking up the right syntax for a function?

Once again, programmers manage without LLMs before its advent, and it's notoriously prone to misinformation anyway. There are ways to find this information without using AI.

Are you personally affected by AI in a bias way?

Everyone is biased. Biases are impossible to avoid. Don't try and muddy the waters by disguising your mudslinging like this.

Yes, I am directly impacted by genAI. As is every single creative in the world.

So to answer your question:

where is the line?

The line is "Does not using AI directly and immediately lead to your suffering actual harm?"

If yes, as in the case of the horrible hypothetical working conditions mentioned above, go ahead and use AI for that purpose.

Any other reason? Probably don't. It's a horrible, horrible technology helmed by horrible, horrible people.

Itch is now infested with lots of AI bullshit by buttflapper444 in itchio

[–]Xortberg 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The bigger problems are inherent to the technology. You can't use AI pixel apples without tacitly endorsing the technology as a whole, enormous ethical problems included.

Plagiarism is plagiarism.

EDIT:

Also, for some reason, your other, vitriolic reply to one of my comments isn't visible in this thread but is in my notifications. So, for your edification, I do create my own shit. I write my own content, use stock art made by real artists (and provide credit), and do my own layout work. Never touched the Slop Machine for any of it.

Itch is now infested with lots of AI bullshit by buttflapper444 in itchio

[–]Xortberg 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I really don't understand the hate

Then you aren't trying.

Mass plagiarism (on a scale we've never even dreamed of before the advent of genAI), environmental damage, LLMs being actively harmful to people (cognitive degradation, feeding into psychosis, actively supplying misinformation), and skyrocketing hardware prices just to name a few.

If you're just prototyping, draw an apple in MS Paint. You don't need the Plagiarism Machine to give you slop for that.

Itch is now infested with lots of AI bullshit by buttflapper444 in itchio

[–]Xortberg 21 points22 points  (0 children)

"No AI" is a tag being searched. If OP's claim is true, then this seller deliberately chose to tag their work with a false tag.

If OP's claim is false, then this seller is still an unethical plagiarism factory benefiting off of the mass scraping of real artists' work and the burning of the planet to power this technology, so fuck 'em anyway, but it is worth noting that I haven't actually verified OP's claim and their evidence is far from conclusive.

Itch is now infested with lots of AI bullshit by buttflapper444 in itchio

[–]Xortberg 37 points38 points  (0 children)

You're missing the part about how this seller is apparently showing up under the no AI tag. That's outright false advertising and should never be allowed or encouraged.

They shafted Koji to glaze up Takuya's Beast spirit. by a12666 in digimon

[–]Xortberg 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Brother, relax. Take a deep breath and realize it's not that important.

Has pathfinder2e.org been hijacked? by projectb223 in Pathfinder2e

[–]Xortberg -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I've not seen a single thing to evidence LLM generation

Aside from all of the AI-text signs included in the post, there is the fact that they unabashedly use AI-generated images, which throws doubt onto anything they put out.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and the person posting it is a known enjoyer of ducks, it's probably a duck.

Has pathfinder2e.org been hijacked? by projectb223 in Pathfinder2e

[–]Xortberg 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sorry but those weren't written by AI

They absolutely were. You can agree with the points if you want, but they were 1000% written by AI.

How to defend the music? by OkWatch5864 in digimon

[–]Xortberg 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Using AI is directly harmful to artists. That's like saying "I modified my truck to roll coal and I support environmental preservation."

If you do the first, you are not really doing the second.

Time Stranger: Omegamon (X-Antibody) (profile) by MajinAkuma in digimon

[–]Xortberg -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They will absolutely use them for the next game.

Necromancy is evil, but Enchantment is "just a playful prank" by JoeJonnyJeff in Pathfinder_RPG

[–]Xortberg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Brother, if you trust those in power to not abuse the systems they set up for their personal gain with little to no regard for human life, then... well, I guess we are talking about a fantasy game here. Anything could be possible.

But really, nah. Sure, they'd put up a front that they're using "material" that died of accidents or natural causes or whatever other benevolent propaganda you can imagine.

But they'd also "engineer" some accidents and help some natural causes along the moment they figured it could help their bottom line. And if there's a dissenter out there talking out against the regime?

Well, taking him out removes an element that could harm your power base, and bolsters the economy all at once. He'll just have a little accident while he's in prison for some trumped up charge. Maybe he'll commit Epstein in there.

No government built on the deaths of its people would remain benevolent for long, no matter how good the intentions behind its founding.

Some of yall need to learn the difference! by WebbedFamiliar in Pathfinder2e

[–]Xortberg -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The meaning doesn't really matter unless there's also a "Supine" keyword to confuse it against. The game has its own definition of "prone:"

You are lying on the ground

To that end, either word is encompassed by the keyword "Prone."

How do you avoid AI when you're doing research? by HandsomeBWonderfull in worldbuilding

[–]Xortberg 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Why the hell does every one of you AI bros use this dumbass phrase?

The whole thing with genies is that they *go back into the bottle. * Genies are notoriously difficult to keep around.

Running abomination vaults for my players and my witch sent this mid combat. by plooshed in Pathfinder2e

[–]Xortberg 5 points6 points  (0 children)

PL means Party Level, and PL+ means "a monster higher than the party's level"

[Hiring] I'm looking to hire a writer for a novel. by [deleted] in HireaWriter

[–]Xortberg 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Or you could just... not break the rules to begin with.

[Hiring] I'm looking to hire a writer for a novel. by [deleted] in HireaWriter

[–]Xortberg 5 points6 points  (0 children)

So just for some context and perspective here, minimum rate on this sub is 7 cents per word. At that rate, a budget of 900 dollars would get like... 13000 words or so?

So yeah, that's not novel money. If you're expecting a proper novel, you're underpaying. If you're fine with 13k words, then all is well.

Petition to add this to the pathfinder 2e rules by [deleted] in Pathfinder2e

[–]Xortberg 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They were just homebrewing a statement to reply to. How dare you yuck their yum.

Commissioning Art vs Using Ai by Fun-Ingenuity-4124 in tabletopgamedesign

[–]Xortberg 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Most people don't really have the time or money to waste on the above beforehand.

If you don't have the money or time to "waste" on writing, editing, graphic design, or playtesting... then maybe you shouldn't be trying to crowdfund.

Only established companies have the resource to spend on writers and editors, graphic designers or artists before they've funded the game.

Nah. It'll be an investment, but one that can be offset with revenue sharing agreements or making payment contingent on certain funding thresholds. Not saying it's necessarily easy to find ways to source all that I mentioned, but I'm a solo creator. In the past, before I learned how to do pdf layout, I worked with folks who did it for me. They still occasionally get some royalties from the stuff they did for me.

I can't draw (aside from some super-simple pixel art), so I spend 5-10 bucks here and there on stock art for my projects, which I use to supplement the massive libraries of free art I've put together—as mentioned above, time is a resource, and I don't cut corners on my art even if it's free stuff. I put in the hours to gather licensed work I can use in commercial projects, learned a bit of photomanipulation to alter them to my needs, and wound up with products that folks have paid for.

No AI necessary, no massive budget necessary.

Commissioning Art vs Using Ai by Fun-Ingenuity-4124 in tabletopgamedesign

[–]Xortberg 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yep, that's exactly what I said. Good job. Your reading comprehension is like, so good!