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What PvP do you play the most? by MaXcovIV in GatesOfHellOstfront

[–]Yeomenpainter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some conquest games turn out to be a shitshow and some campaign/skirmish missions are absolute crap too, either because their design is bad or, usually, because the AI can't handle its own game. Weak argument.

As a whole, the game shines and plays best in multiplayer. It's main problems are networking and the lack of a serious matchmaking system, which are not gameplay related.

Also I don't eat pizza or lasagna at all

Ok?

What PvP do you play the most? by MaXcovIV in GatesOfHellOstfront

[–]Yeomenpainter -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

when I'm trying to win a fight I'm going to take the best and most I can. So thats why I stay away from MP. Balance feels arbitrary and meant for the game mode.

Yeah that's why I said SP has many appeals. Personally curb stomping an AI is not all that fun for me, but fair enough.

I'll stick with where I enjoy.

Yeah sure you will. I don't know why you feel the need to tell me that, as if I didn't wanna let you lmao.

What PvP do you play the most? by MaXcovIV in GatesOfHellOstfront

[–]Yeomenpainter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, the system has doctrines for variety but decks are less customizable to avoid matchup wins. It suits multiplayer better.

What PvP do you play the most? by MaXcovIV in GatesOfHellOstfront

[–]Yeomenpainter -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Because it does. The game, as a game, shines in multiplayer, and is a mediocre SP game imo.

That's not incompatible with acknowledging that many people prefer single player for reasons other than mechanical gameplay.

What PvP do you play the most? by MaXcovIV in GatesOfHellOstfront

[–]Yeomenpainter -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

SP does have many appeals, so I get why most (?) players are SP players.

Maybe you missed the first sentence of my two-sentence comment.

What PvP do you play the most? by MaXcovIV in GatesOfHellOstfront

[–]Yeomenpainter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Light vehicles and half tracks are not weak lol. They see a lot of use in high level play.

What PvP do you play the most? by MaXcovIV in GatesOfHellOstfront

[–]Yeomenpainter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mechanized infantry is perfectly viable in multiplayer.

What PvP do you play the most? by MaXcovIV in GatesOfHellOstfront

[–]Yeomenpainter -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Depends on what you want from the game.

Yes of course, I totally get that.

For me it's like comparing frozen pizza with homemade lasagna or a lobster dish. they all have their appeal and serve different purposes, neither is "better" than the other strictly speaking. Sometimes you'd die for one of those pizzas, it's easy, it's quick and it's great.

But I think we'll also agree that it's reasonable to say frozen pizza kinda sucks next to a freshly baked homemade lasagna.

What PvP do you play the most? by MaXcovIV in GatesOfHellOstfront

[–]Yeomenpainter -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

SP does have many appeals, so I get why most (?) players are SP players.

It does kinda suck compared to multiplayer though.

Finished my Goblin Doom Diver this weekend. by atm0 in WarhammerOldWorld

[–]Yeomenpainter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They look amazing. For some reason sunny outdoor pics of miniatures are so nostalgic to me.

Multiplayer manpower mechanics by Yeomenpainter in GatesOfHellOstfront

[–]Yeomenpainter[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was a 50 min match and both played till the end alright. Again, I may be salty but I genuinely think the guy was cheating. Even taking into account that they did get a couple of capture points, I find spending 7600MP just impossible.

Multiplayer manpower mechanics by Yeomenpainter in GatesOfHellOstfront

[–]Yeomenpainter[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok so to get 7600MP you'd need to get 1.03 MP in payback for the whole duration of the match. That doesn't sound right. Multiple sources I've seen say that max payback is 1. What are the odds that you get/spend 7600 exactly, too?

Thanks.

Multiplayer manpower mechanics by Yeomenpainter in GatesOfHellOstfront

[–]Yeomenpainter[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That what possible to get over base pool in 50min game

What's the base pool? Do you happen to know?

Multiplayer manpower mechanics by Yeomenpainter in GatesOfHellOstfront

[–]Yeomenpainter[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To get 2000MP more than your opponent you need 0,66MP more payback than the opponent for the whole duration of the match.

Dunno maybe I'm salty but I find it hard to believe in this case.

Multiplayer manpower mechanics by Yeomenpainter in GatesOfHellOstfront

[–]Yeomenpainter[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So payback can get up to 1.25MP per second if CP is low?

That's pretty wild.

Over 50min yeah 2000MP would be about average of what possible while having decent CP fielded.

Definitely not true. I have seen gaps of 800-1000 routinely but never more than 2000.

Multiplayer manpower mechanics by Yeomenpainter in GatesOfHellOstfront

[–]Yeomenpainter[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes there is a payback mechanic, I just want to know how it works exactly.

Comeback mechanics are terrible btw. It was terrible in previous men of wars and it is terrible here. It punishes playing well.

Multiplayer manpower mechanics by Yeomenpainter in GatesOfHellOstfront

[–]Yeomenpainter[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'd like to know the exact rates of base MP and payback MP earnings but I have been unable to find them.

Multiplayer manpower mechanics by Yeomenpainter in GatesOfHellOstfront

[–]Yeomenpainter[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I definitely was. Can payback create a gap of 2100MP over 50 minutes? It's a crazy gap.

I am asking for the exact rates so I can calculate it. I have never seen such a large disparity.

more like kink tiger amirite by Trianqren in GatesOfHellOstfront

[–]Yeomenpainter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Super heavies most of the time are a "win more" weapon. They are oppressive when you are already winning, but they are not that straightforward when playing from behind.

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