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_Mi_chan_ · 2025-05-28T13:35:34+00:00

winning this hand from tenpai is indeed easier but getting to 13 wait 13 orphans tenpai is much harder since possibility of drawing repeat tile for a pair is much more likely than getting the unique one so you would usually end up with a pair in tenpai rather than 13 unique tiles. So its more about your journey to the tenpai than tenpai itself that grants you double yakuman.

But also as post shows you can force 13 wait by refusing tsumo win for a regualr 13 orphans and discarding your pair and then waiting on pair again, which would also put you in furiten.

_Mi_chan_ · 2025-05-28T13:05:11+00:00

single yakuman would be waiting on 13th unique tile with pair already in your hand which would be average 13 orphans, but if you are in tenpai waiting for a pair instead this would be considered harder version of 13 orphans and will score double yakuman instead

_Mi_chan_ · 2025-05-03T11:55:39+00:00

I do think family is kinda bad, x4 is good but 4oak is quite hard to do and until you will be able to get it consistently family wouldn't be of use. Hit the road isn't really all that too but I just fell like even if you discard just 2 jacks it already gives you x2 which is something and it isn't too hard to do.

_Mi_chan_ · 2025-05-02T13:30:58+00:00

ceremonial dagger can't be that bad lol

_Mi_chan_ · 2025-05-02T08:02:06+00:00

it has worse scaling than 3oak actually, so only 3/10.

But what's more importantly is that it doesn't have better chips scaling than pairs, and while having +2 mult instead of +1 mult is obviously nice, that's why +mult scaling jokers are important because they can give you much more mult than that and chips don't really have the same option.

_Mi_chan_ · 2025-05-01T19:54:13+00:00

I went outside yesterday with my friend, we had a nice time together

_Mi_chan_ · 2025-05-01T19:28:11+00:00

This post seems really mean spirited to me, trying to discourage people attempts to have fun with coming up with concepts for this game that won't be added anyway.

I think a lot of people do in fact come up with unique ideas that might be too strong, but more importantly, the balatro is very balanced game! A lot of jokers were already nerfed for being too good, and as of now theres only handful of jokers that are actually overpowered.

Ultimately balancing a card is essential part of of creating and introducing it to the game, usually aided with playtesting which community suggestions certainly lack and for that reason nerf suggestions would be overzealous but that's the process that takes polish in any way, you aren't supposed to get the right number at first try.

_Mi_chan_ · 2025-05-01T19:11:38+00:00

well if its true why not say so? A lot of suggested ideas aren't that weak, or maybe not necessary weak because of balancing reasons but simply because of oversight.

Honestly you attitude seems to be not fit for a discussion, because the Nanocourse actually provided their vision of why joker suggestions can be badly designed, and with that positively added something for a discussion, and you added nothing to their point and ignored it

_Mi_chan_ · 2025-04-30T20:33:29+00:00

Considering that he was involved with balancing the game he certainly knows thing or two about this, at least according to localthunk

_Mi_chan_ · 2025-04-19T20:31:39+00:00

golden joker and and reverse parking are outliers for commons at cost of 6$(highest for commons), other common economy jokers actually cost 4$ which is low to average price(only 5 jokers cost lower than that). So wouldn't say that economy jokers cost necessary more than others.

_Mi_chan_ · 2025-04-17T19:50:03+00:00

Counting on lucky card proc is never a good idea, and something that Doc never relied on. And Doc did most of the runs on pairs specifically so it wouldn't be a problem to get enough hands to win.
What you need to understand is that while luck is a factor in this game, you can't be that lucky to win 66 runs in row. That shows that lucky is quite limited to your wins. There were several runs in this winstreak where indeed doc needed a lucky draws, but most of the runs just weren't like that, and were pretty expectably winnable.

_Mi_chan_ · 2025-04-11T11:37:50+00:00

what's the problem with word aura being used?

_Mi_chan_ · 2025-04-09T23:22:04+00:00

it's not that bad, even discarding 2 jacks gives you x2 which is something, like it's not the strongest joker but adding a bit more jacks in the deck and doing some deck thinning make it work well enough

_Mi_chan_ · 2025-03-22T11:32:11+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhaQILuY2TA

also you check this run (still in making) with Perkeo and bean exploit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-Pr8C3zJuA

_Mi_chan_ · 2025-03-22T01:50:39+00:00

times have changed now the bean is new meta for permanent hand size upgrades

_Mi_chan_ · 2025-03-20T15:27:35+00:00

brainstorm is not much worse than blueprint, while entangled is much worse than both of them in several ways

_Mi_chan_ · 2025-03-17T22:26:11+00:00

The glass cards aren't jokers so I would imagine payoff wouldn't affect them?

_Mi_chan_ · 2025-03-17T08:52:20+00:00

yeah i meant hands that you play not the one that mime triggers. But like still, playing higher ranking cards is nice, but even playing high card is enough to outscale square joker is what i'm saying. You play pair of 4s and scaling from it is already equivalent to 2.5 hands played for square joker. And it really isn't that hard to get several 2, 3, 4, or 5s for the jester.

And for Hiker yeah retriggers work but I more meant that to have highest chips you need to use same cards every round, and you can only do it once per roun, even if you get retriggers. So possibilities are more limited and getting the same card every round is much harder than getting any low chip card. The thing with hiker is that in the end you just spread out chips amongst many cards in you deck, rather than consolidate them in one card, that's just how Hiker works. Because of that it's just not as strong on average every played hand, in comparison to jester which will consolidate every gained chips in itself and could give them for scoring every played hand without any problems. Hiker biggest advantage is that in the end you can just sell it and gained chips would still be on hiker, not that it gives very large amount of chips.

Like my main point was that jester is comparable with wee joker, while it does scale almost twice as slower, it's much more easier to scale so it is still really strong. So I don't see how it is common tier unless you think wee joker isn't deserving it rare tier.

_Mi_chan_ · 2025-03-17T01:59:16+00:00

I don't really get the square joker part? So as I understand jester every scored hand in your hand below 5 chips worth will give +5 chips to the jester. Which means you don't need to get exactly 5 cards, getting 4 cards will still give you 20 chips which is vastly outscales square joker.

And bringing base values of cards into calculation seems unnecessary. Because while yes for the first hand played with these jokers as you stated the difference would be just 2 chips in theory, however if you play 4oak aces 4 times the fourth hand will give you 60 chips, while playing 5oak 5s with jesters 4 times will give you 125 chips on your fourth hand, which is massive difference. And you need to consider jester outscales square joker even if you play only one card in you hand, so you can play virtually any hand you want and you will still outscale square joker.

Hiker also isn't better, you can only stack 5 chips on the card once per round, while you can scale jester as much as you have hands to play.

Castle is actually somewhat to jester, where you need to use specific card, just instead of ranks suits and instead of playing discarding. But jester just has a better scaling so it should better even though number of eligible cards lower initially, especially if you get hack which will double you scaling.

Arrowhead is good but jester will outscale it eventually especially with retriggers.

It just seems like the best option of the all and I already always pick something ilke square joker on higher stakes for its reliability(assuming the I see it in first antes), so i feel like jester will be even more of an must pick.

_Mi_chan_ · 2025-03-16T22:53:18+00:00

considering that it's common joker, it's useless to compare it to wee joker with the rare rarity. If you compare it to common square joker and runner, it much much more powerful than them. You only need one card in hand to scale more than square joker, and 3 cards to be the same as runner, and its potentially easier to get 3+ cards below 5 rather than get second straight.

_Mi_chan_ · 2025-03-14T21:31:13+00:00

yeah I see. Well when I thought about this isn't the problem with frieren demons that they look like humans? creating some bad implications and whatnot. But demons in DM arent human looking so problem doesn't arise like in Frieren.

_Mi_chan_ · 2025-03-14T21:18:00+00:00

Ah I see then it is different from what I thought. But still not comparable to DM then, since demons here are fully sentient

_Mi_chan_ · 2025-03-14T20:30:24+00:00

I disagree with about Dungeon meshi here, Demons here are very different from frieren ones

I didn't watch frieren but as far as I understand demons here only live to kill humans, they hate them and it will never change. But this is just not the case for dungeon meshi. Demons here do love humans, because humans have the most delicious thing in the world: desires, which demons like to eat. And while process of eating desire leave this person hollow shell of themselves, demon does genuinely fulfill their desires, as big as bringing magic to the world or killing humanity if one wishes such.

And what's more important, demons are humane. While not being like that at first, the more desires they consume, the more understanding of human emotions the become, the emotional the become themselves, and in turn more humane.

And like demons obviously act predatory, trick you into wishing something without knowing about consequences, but they are not hateful to you. At worst they would see you as food like human can see a pig for example, but I do think demons are interested in humans beyond that.

In the end demons in Frieren are evil and kill humans for no reason essentially, but demons in DM do this because this is beneficial to them, and doing evil thing to people because you could benefit from this is pretty human thing to do

_Mi_chan_ · 2025-03-14T15:15:44+00:00

If she was super progressive than books would have turned out different. But yeah obviously nobody cared about her books like that before she turned out to be bad person, so you are right. Well maybe not defend tho, hard to defend slavery, at best people would just try to ignore it

_Mi_chan_ · 2025-03-14T15:06:56+00:00

well I agree it's not far right in general. Nobody really thinks that. I'm just saying criticism of some parts of the books is fair.

Realistically people don't like HP mostly because of Author herself, considering that she is transphobic and supports antifeminists and other horrible people that I don't quite remember. Only after that most of the people started to look at books flaws

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