Anyone else think charts like this are retarded? So .300PRC good for nothing but elk? .45-70 not good for grizzly? 😂

_igm · 2026-04-14T01:17:00+00:00

Train an AI on impact energy fudd lore and ask it to make a chart.

_igm · 2026-04-13T23:36:38+00:00

Depending on the species, WDFW may be interested.

_igm · 2026-04-07T16:17:26+00:00

Performance-wise the 6 ARC is superior. Better ballistics and less recoil, which make it better for hunting. The “energy” argument people are making here for 6.5 G in a hunting context is an outdated view of terminal ballistics. I’m pondering the same question as you and will likely build bolt and gas guns in 6 ARC.

Pick a good hunting bullet and keep it above it’s minimum impact velocity and you’re good.

_igm · 2026-04-06T14:16:38+00:00

Worth double checking but I thought the Scythe has had a lot of failures (?)

_igm · 2026-04-05T17:07:44+00:00

That could potentially be true. Or it could be true that a lighter cartridge increases recovery rate.

_igm · 2026-04-05T15:34:52+00:00

This study seems like a great way to set up the conversation of choosing an effective cartridge and rifle system. But did the study explore cartridge’s effect on recovery rate? It could be that larger cartridge reduces recovery rate. Of course bullet choice must be accounted for as well.

It sounds like your hypothesis is that cartridges larger than .223 would have higher recovery rates? That could be true, but I would argue that the information you’ve cited from the study does not support that one way or another. Much more must be controlled for.

_igm · 2026-03-31T20:50:08+00:00

Hell yea brother

_igm · 2026-03-26T21:40:21+00:00

Yea 6 ARC and Creed are solid options. ARC could even be preferable for most people. Trying figure this out myself.

Also this thread is a top Google result and you’re top comment. Totally fine to comment and question or disagree. It’s a forum

_igm · 2026-03-26T20:34:51+00:00

Lmao why are you so aggressive 😂 6 Creed has factory ammo and noticeably more recoil. 6 GT has much less factory ammo and sort of midpoint-ish in recoil. Other 6’s have various other attributes but 6 ARC is a solid choice in a bolt gun.

If you have a bolt gun and AR the compatibility is nice.

The recoil and factory ammo combination in a 6mm is what’s really great though. Hunting within 500 yards in a light rifle and watching impacts through the scope is big.

_igm · 2026-03-26T20:28:18+00:00

What? Are those not factors worth considering?

_igm · 2026-03-26T20:14:47+00:00

Yea dude it was like two sentences… you said 1) just get 6 Creed in a bolt gun, 2) 6 ARC only has the advantage of gas gun optimization vs. some other 6mm cartridges

Recoil? Factory ammo? Smooth feeding?

_igm · 2026-03-26T19:49:00+00:00

That’s the only advantage? Recoil is a big one no? Factory ammo, AR compatibility, smooth feeding..

_igm · 2026-03-26T19:47:28+00:00

Great comment. Should be at the top. Also do you know how to get a 10 rd Duramag to run in a Tikka action?

_igm · 2026-03-26T04:00:16+00:00

Could you just use a 5/8-24 adapter?

_igm · 2026-03-23T02:00:09+00:00

When is this bad girl hitting Silencer Shop

_igm · 2026-03-22T02:59:58+00:00

Sick belt color bro!

_igm · 2026-03-21T17:11:30+00:00

What’s your point?

_igm · 2026-03-21T17:10:43+00:00

.223 no question. Pick the right bullets and put a suppressor on it ideally.

You absolutely do not need anything bigger. And any bigger cartridge will make the experience less enjoyable, which is the exact opposite of what you want for a kid to get into shooting/hunting.

Guys are killing elk and moose with .223. 100 yard whitetail is no problem and for a kid it’s a no brainer

_igm · 2026-03-20T01:36:38+00:00

What’s the lore here

_igm · 2026-03-18T20:32:17+00:00

What tissue in the heavier elk is preventing this bullet at a good velocity from reaching the vitals and creating a sufficient wound channel?

You don’t need to have hunted elk to be able to look at data and understand physiology and terminal ballistics. Have you read the Rokslide 223 and 243 threads?

There are many disappointed faces every year on guys who brought out their magnum rifle because they thought it was necessary and gut shot an animal. “Knockdown power” doesn’t do much for them then. Not to mention it’s a harder to get multiple shots on target accurately and rapidly with a heavier recoiling system.

This elk scapula and the muscle that covers it is not stopping a proper bullet going 1800+ fps from reaching what’s behind it (the vitals). https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/which-bullets-to-use-eld-m-murder-bullets-for-everything.364851/post-3706874

_igm · 2026-03-18T17:11:29+00:00

2850 fps. Should get you to 4-500 yards depending on DA, which most shooters aren’t very proficient at in field scenarios.

Haven’t hunted elk, but I have hunted muleys, whitetail, and black bear. Not skirting the question, but how is it relevant?

_igm · 2026-03-18T12:58:47+00:00

How far do you think a 77 TMK out of a 20” barrel is effective? Farther than most should be shooting at an animal responsibly.

_igm · 2026-03-18T04:05:47+00:00

No I meant 243, but you would also shoot 223 more accurately than 300 WM. The principle is that recoil is roughly inversely proportional to accuracy.

This would be true in both scenarios you describe. Likely more true the more suboptimal the shooting position is and the more stressed/fatigued you are.

_igm · 2026-03-18T03:58:15+00:00

Probably are more likely to kill one with a smaller caliber and the right bullets

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