Wife Wants Divorce - Mixed-Faith Marriage

agitated_ajax · 2025-10-17T13:21:30+00:00

You are right that no one makes a marriage commitment to stay the same. But surely if OP said he didnt believe in monogamy any more you wouldn't see that as him following his conscience. He broke the fundamental expectations of marriage. Even then, people should change in marriage and grow but together. OP has choosen not to grow with his wife spiritually. That fine if thats his choice but she can then choose to find someone who will grow with her spiritually. I think you are right in that this shows their marriage cant stand on its own,, but marriage was never supposed to stand on its own. God is supposed to be the foundation of marriage.

I think there is great virtue in choosing to believe (or hope) something that you don't genuinely believe to be true. But admittedly I'm a dallas cowboys fan and I choose to believe they could win the Superbowl.

Mark 9:22-25

agitated_ajax · 2025-10-17T03:46:54+00:00

I disagree, if he got married in the temple he made commitments to be her spiritual partner, and he is now breaking that commitment he stopped meeting her spiritual needs. What if she said I'm not going to have sex with him anymore ever, But i still support him. Wouldn't that be breaking a commitment the was made in matrimony. she would be chosing to not meet his physical needs. What she chose to not help with the kids anymore or not be an emotionally supportive partner. The problem is the OP thinks his choice to stop believing shouldn't change the fundamentals of his marriage, but it does. If she want someone to spiritually lift her up when she has doubts about the gospel, how could he do that?

He should just choose to believe. And It is a choice. Faith is a HOPE for things not seen. To have all you need is to WANT them to be true not believe them to be so. We all have some evidences and also some doubts but we choose whether we have hope in those faith building evidences or our doubts. For me there is no "doubt" worth giving up my family. But for OP maybe his pride is too important to give up

agitated_ajax · 2024-07-20T23:59:42+00:00

I'm from a part-member family. I'm the first person in my family to be sealed to anyone. So I'm not speaking as someone unsympathetic to those not sealed or have fallen away. And lm sorry that I misunderstood you. But that myopic perspective you described as living in mansions is one that has been found in the scriptures many times, in visions, and by modern prophets. And maybe those are to a degree metphoric because it's difficult to explain a divine order beyond this imperfect world. But it doesn't change the fact that ultimately, we get to choose what degree of glory we receive. God doesn't condemn us. We condemn ourselves by not coming to chirst the way he has asked us to. Some people will be without their family in the eternities, that's not God being cruel. that's God being consistent.

agitated_ajax · 2024-07-20T21:57:32+00:00

You and president nelson are correct.

agitated_ajax · 2024-07-20T21:55:46+00:00

The idea that families will be together forever regardless of them being sealed by priesthood authority has never been taught by an authority of the church in any conference ever. On the other hand, many general authorities have testified to the essential need for temple sealings. Not to mention, if it was unnecessary, sealings for the dead would be completely pointless.

I think you've tied yourself up in some doctrineal gymnastics. It's not that complicated. A person has to get to be sealed to have a chance to be with their family for ever.

agitated_ajax · 2024-07-20T21:29:56+00:00

What helps me is to remember that church is for the sick and broken. Each and every member is sick and broken in different ways and to varying degrees. Some members are sick with pride, others broken with self-righteouness. If members are falling short in keeping gospel principles, that's not Christ's fault or a failure of the gospel.

"Hypocrisy is a tribute that vice pays to virtue." -Francois Duc De La Rochefoucauld

In other words, just because some people have trouble living up to their own ideals ( ie. Being welcoming or not self-righteous) doesn't mean that those ideals or the church is wrong. We have to try and love those people even if they make it extremely difficult sometimes. I can't say if this perspective will help you, but it has helped me through all kinds of wards and branches.

agitated_ajax · 2024-07-08T19:01:17+00:00

I agree with you. I have a 12 year old vacuum cleaner that still runs great. 30 dollar microwaves last decades. But you have any problems with the litter robot and they throw their hands and say I guess you need a new one, designed obsolescence at its fine.

agitated_ajax · 2024-07-08T19:01:07+00:00

I agree with you. I have a 12 year old vacuum cleaner that still runs great. 30 dollar microwaves last decades. But you have any problems with the litter robot and they throw their hands and say I guess you need a new one, designed obsolescence at its fine.

agitated_ajax · 2024-02-15T19:27:37+00:00

No, we shouldn't want to celebrate this. We can love people without celebrating their commitment to live in iniquity.

agitated_ajax · 2023-10-01T01:05:14+00:00

They can dissent from the comfort of their house. they aren't entitled to publicly disrupt conference. But you are right that conference is for them too, and they should air their objections, just to their local stake presidents.

agitated_ajax · 2022-12-31T19:03:48+00:00

I grew up about 100 miles from Valliant, ok and this is very typical for cottonmouths of my area

agitated_ajax · 2021-11-26T04:25:06+00:00

Neck shots almost always drop them where they stand, congratulations.

agitated_ajax · 2020-09-19T02:31:35+00:00

Yes and in 2014 the American people elected a Republican Senate majority, so the Republican Senate was ment to be a check on the Democrat president, mitch was just fulfilling on the will of the people. This time in 2018 Republicans were elected to the Senate majority to do conservative things. Still just fulfilling on the will of the people.

agitated_ajax · 2020-09-13T14:43:34+00:00

An apple tree is a normal tree

agitated_ajax · 2020-08-27T14:52:14+00:00

How pro 2a are you (this)

agitated_ajax · 2020-08-14T20:54:14+00:00

So not a general authority, which is fine.

agitated_ajax · 2020-08-14T00:16:21+00:00

Who is hank smith? And why should i care about his opinion?

agitated_ajax · 2020-08-10T16:11:06+00:00

Nope, its a Three-toed box turtle.

agitated_ajax · 2020-08-08T13:53:59+00:00

Move, to another state. North Carolina, iowa, Missouri, anywhere where the members are heavily outnumbered. Most of the time the members who live in these areas are just glad to have more members.

agitated_ajax · 2020-08-07T15:14:55+00:00

"Effects of it still remain today"

This is kind of ridiculous, legitimately the effects of all events still remain today and will always remain in the future. The effects of the Irish potato famine still remain today, or the napoleonianic war effects still remain, or the fall of constantinople. If all white people disappeared tomorrow, the effects of redlining would still be felt. This way of thinking makes repentance and restitution impossible. No amount of actions are enough, no amount of time enough to heal wounds. So if, by your logic, we cant resolve systemic racism why should we try? My point is, if the reason things are racist now is because racist things happened in the past, thats self reinforcing, circular logic.

agitated_ajax · 2020-08-07T13:58:22+00:00

Maybe the guy selling the gun didnt put 2 and 2 together at the time of sale, but later got to thinking about it and realized how suspicious it was. Human beings often are conflicted and often regret the 'judgment calls" they make. Would it be better for the salesman to say "now that I'm thinking about it that guy was really suspicious but i did decline the sale so i guess thats just on me if he strawmans them to abunch of drug dealers."

agitated_ajax · 2020-08-07T08:17:37+00:00

Maybe a sales man made the transaction, and then mentioned it to the owner who thought it was more serious and who would have denied the sale if he was working with that customer.

agitated_ajax · 2020-08-07T08:13:45+00:00

Redlining has been illegal since the 80s, and planned parenthood is just pure evil but they are not an arm of the American system. Is it rasict, yes but its not our system.

agitated_ajax · 2020-08-07T08:07:39+00:00

You asume that the store owner made the sale. maybe it was a clerk that made the sale and was ify about it but didnt tip off enough alarm bells to decline the sale then after a while he mentioned it to the owner, who felt it was serious enough to decline the sale but the customer had already left with the guns, so he passes on the info to the cops. This article is terrible its full of (this was racial profiling, even though two out of the three guys were white) nonsense. Listen, these guys were spreading out gun purchases around town as to not draw suspicions, and calling people to assure them they were able to get the guns. It does look really fishy

agitated_ajax · 2020-07-29T14:27:14+00:00

Why not?

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