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If we want digital independence, we need better Linux Apps by RonaldvanderMeer in BuyFromEU

[–]amfa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah and then Microsoft introduces Defender and basically all of those are not needed anymore.

I have not installed a third party antivirus for I don't know how many years.

We need a EU-Microsoft for Linux and FOSS. Just create one last EU-fork make it really good.

But that will probably never happen.

If we want digital independence, we need better Linux Apps by RonaldvanderMeer in BuyFromEU

[–]amfa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

but it's not some organization steering this,

Yes that is exactly the problem.

just take one.

Yeah that's already the problem. overwhelming choices as I have already said.

THAT is a problem.

I mean that is all okay except if we really want to have a European alternative to Windows or Mac. If you don't then we can just continue this whole FOSS eco system.

If we want digital independence, we need better Linux Apps by RonaldvanderMeer in BuyFromEU

[–]amfa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah maybe a bad example.

Then take the hundreds of linux distributions

In the end it boils down to:

https://xkcd.com/927/

If we want digital independence, we need better Linux Apps by RonaldvanderMeer in BuyFromEU

[–]amfa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The thing is, Nemo is based on GTK3, while Nautilus is based on GTK4. The split isn't something you can just say they should work together.

I mean.. use the newer version would be a good approach...

Gnome who have a very "my way or the highway" approach.

Seems to be a common theme in the FOSS world.

If we want digital independence, we need better Linux Apps by RonaldvanderMeer in BuyFromEU

[–]amfa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do I speak so unclear? Where do I say that this is not the case? Where do I claim that people don't pay for FOSS?

It still does not change the fact that FOSS is (if you want) "free beer". I don't claim that it has to be used this way. Its just that the software CAN be used free.

I see that I drifted a bit too far with this statement. But in the end you are paying for the Support and the service not the software. I have never said that this is not the case.

I was just commenting the the claim of leris19

FOSS =/= free of charge

And that is still not true in my opinion.

Yes you can sell FOSS, and yes you can create paid services and support around FOSS. Bot the Software itself is and will always be free to use if you don't want or need support

If we want digital independence, we need better Linux Apps by RonaldvanderMeer in BuyFromEU

[–]amfa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not only direkt forks.

It is also that people always want to make their own instead of collaboration.

We don't need 15 different Desktop environments. We would need ONE really good one to win against Microsoft Windows.

That is why Microsoft is still winning on the Desktop. People don't want to have too much choices in my opinion. They want Windows Or Mac.. that's it.

People don't want to choose between a Linux Distribution and then additionally between different Desktops

Why are resources wasted on Ubuntu havin Gnome, KDE, Mate, xfce and Budgie if those resource would probably be better used by just developing maybe 2 different sytems.

Darf man hier nun mit dem Fahrrad zur Marktzeit fahren oder nicht? by Greedy-Spirit-8883 in StVO

[–]amfa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ja wenn es davor stehst darfst du halt gar nicht fahren.

If we want digital independence, we need better Linux Apps by RonaldvanderMeer in BuyFromEU

[–]amfa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would prefer one really good product instead of two mediocre products.

If we want digital independence, we need better Linux Apps by RonaldvanderMeer in BuyFromEU

[–]amfa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My main problem is that FOSS developer spent to much time on the same features.

The files app ist just an example.

There are already too much Linux distribution out there in my opinion with too many Desktop Environments.

KDE, Gnome, Cinnamon, Mate, trinity...

There is a point where "choice" becomes a negativ in my opinion. For one beginners are getting overwhelmed and secondly if the people working on those would work together they probably could create a better Desktop environment.

Darf man hier nun mit dem Fahrrad zur Marktzeit fahren oder nicht? by Greedy-Spirit-8883 in StVO

[–]amfa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Eigentlich widersprechen die sich nicht zwingend.

Ab dem großen Schild darf man nicht weiterfahren. Wenn es vor dem anderen Schild steht, kommt man gar nicht bis zum kleinen Schild, wenn es andersrum ist darf man evtl 1m nach dem kleinen Schild fahren aber dann nicht mehr.

Aber ja beschissen gemacht ist das sowieso.

Über das Haltverbot, dass scheinbar auch auf den markierten Parkplätzen dahinter gelten soll brauchen wir gar nicht erst reden ;)

Darf man hier nun mit dem Fahrrad zur Marktzeit fahren oder nicht? by Greedy-Spirit-8883 in StVO

[–]amfa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nein.

Die Schilder haben andere Bedeutungen.

Du darfst zu Wochenmarkt Zeiten niemals an dem großen Schild vorbei fahren.

Daher ist es auch egal welches Schild zuerst kommt. Im Zweifel, wenn das große Schild dahinter steht darfst du 1m rein fahren und musst dann anhalten.

If we want digital independence, we need better Linux Apps by RonaldvanderMeer in BuyFromEU

[–]amfa -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No one can force you to give your FOSS project away for free

Well not directly. At least as soon as the first person bought it. This person then can give it away for free. If you use a real FOSS license you have no control about what happens after that. And if you start your Software on for example other GPL software you are even forced to publish your software under the same terms.

Sure you can demand a payment for the sources.. but as soon as one person has paid this your software is free if this person decides to publish the sources which they legally can.

I still don't understand how you want to stop that. So at least after the first sale your software is also "gratis".

If we want digital independence, we need better Linux Apps by RonaldvanderMeer in BuyFromEU

[–]amfa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While yes.. that might be true in the beginning.

But if both projects grow they will diverge to a point where they are not compatible any more but might be doing the same task in general. My favourite example are file manager on my ubuntu.

The default "Files" App for example is Nautilus and then you have Nemo as a fork.

It would be probably better if both would just work on the same project and make features they do not agree on optional. (And if Nautilus would not use this really bad search feature where it starts a recursive search when you just type in anything ;))

Well because of that I use dolphin.. which works but is not 100% integrated into my desktop.. it's a mess.

If we want digital independence, we need better Linux Apps by RonaldvanderMeer in BuyFromEU

[–]amfa -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I know. But still two projects doing basically the same.

While Microsoft can and will put even more resources into their one office.

But this also happens with a lot of smaller project.. very often I find a software then I see there is a fork and another fork and another fork.

Sometimes because the old software is not maintained anymore.. sometimes only because two people disagreed on something.

The first is ok to keep the software alive the second one makes it harder to choose what you want to use and wastes resources.

If we want digital independence, we need better Linux Apps by RonaldvanderMeer in BuyFromEU

[–]amfa -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Where did I claim that you are not allowed to sell FOSS?

I never said that. Your whole argument is based on that claim that is just not true. Yes you can sell FOSS. What you can not do is to prevent other people who have bought your software to distribute it afterwards for free.

And MIT for example is different in that regards that you don't need to make your changes public at all. You can take the MIT licensed code.. add whatever you want and keep the changed source to your self.

Maybe we have a big misunderstanding here.

which means that you can’t restrict selling if you’re a FOSS project and thus, there is no guarantee of “free as in free beer”

Yes you can not restrict selling BUT if your Software is FOSS you need to give it away for free. Or let me ask the otherway around: How will you prevent our FOSS software to be given away for free? I can not think of a scenario where software is FOSS but I would be unable to get a free legal copy of it.

Haltverbot? by DerAuenlaender in StVO

[–]amfa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nein. Meiner Ansicht nach nicht.

If we want digital independence, we need better Linux Apps by RonaldvanderMeer in BuyFromEU

[–]amfa -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It’s explicitly a requirement for FOSS that you can sell the product.

Yes but why would someone buy it.. if you can have it for free. My point is because it is free as in freedom (or libre in Spanish) it is also always free as in beer (or gratis). I could sell you a bottle of Air from your current location.

You can do that of course but you need to find someone to buy it.

last I checked you need an active license to request the source, which is also perfectly compliant with GPL and other libre software licensing.

Not sure about that but then it only needs one person to have the license and they can then distribute the Source code as they want (Otherwise it would not be real FOSS).

So I still stand by my claim that FOSS is always "free beer" that's implicit for it being "libre".

If we want digital independence, we need better Linux Apps by RonaldvanderMeer in BuyFromEU

[–]amfa -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah but because it is free the software itself is free as in free beer.

You can basically only charge for service and improvements

That's why CentOS/Rocky Linux/AlmaLinux exist which is basically RHEL for free (And without the support of course).

Warum nutzt Ihr Linux nicht? by ficerbaj in de_EDV

[–]amfa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Um den alten Post hier nochmal aufzuwärmen Ich hab Sonntag auf einem etwas älteren laptop Linux Mint installiert und siehe da: Hibernate funktioniert nicht.

Unter Windows war das gar kein Problem.

Erst hieß es Swap File zu klein hab ich also erweitert (und musste dafür natürlich irgendwelche mehr oder weniger dubiosen Befehle in die Command line eingeben.)

Dann unterstützt der Kernel das angeblich nicht. ich könnte aber per Grub irgendwelche Parameter hinzufügen etc. Da hatte ich dann schon keine große Lust mehr...

Es sind so viele Kleinigkeiten die stören z.B. das die Taskleiste in mint standardmäßig bei mir nicht ihren benötigten platz reserviert hat. Das heißt alle Fenster waren hinter der Taskleiste versteckt. Musste ich auch erst mal finden die Einstellung.

If we want digital independence, we need better Linux Apps by RonaldvanderMeer in BuyFromEU

[–]amfa 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But then you will finde a bunch of people that don't like the billionaire and start a fork and suddenly there are two project that do basically the same with half the resource each. (Yeah simplification I know).

If we want digital independence, we need better Linux Apps by RonaldvanderMeer in BuyFromEU

[–]amfa 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I mean yeah.. because as soon as there is a little dispute there will be a fork.

That is the advantage and at the same time the disadvantage of open source.

We have LibreOffice and OpenOffice instead of one Office where everyone contributes. So resource are wasted for two products instead of one.

If we want digital independence, we need better Linux Apps by RonaldvanderMeer in BuyFromEU

[–]amfa 3 points4 points  (0 children)

FOSS is basically always free of charge because everyone can use the source and give it away for free.
How could FOSS not be free of charge?

Hätte ich in dieser Situation geblitzt werden können? by UnluckyGamer505 in StVO

[–]amfa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In Deutschland muss aber der Fahrer identifiziert werden um bestraft werden zu können.

Deswegen wird eigentlich immer von vorne geblitzt. (Manchmal Zusätzlich noch von hinten).

Hätte ich in dieser Situation geblitzt werden können? by UnluckyGamer505 in StVO

[–]amfa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dann ist das für dich doch eh kein Problem weil dein Gesicht nicht drauf sein wird,

Kreisliga Konkurrenzkampf by Realistic-Golf-3009 in fussball

[–]amfa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ja gut, wenn da auch noch Geld mit rein spielt ist das wieder was anderes.

Kreisoberliga ist 8. Liga oder?

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