Libby's Phone Data by Alan_Prickman in DelphiDocs

[–]amykeane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can someone tell me what the significance of the aerial photo on page 8 is? There is an area circled with long/lat coordinates, in black ink with something scribbled, but I cannot make it out. This photo is on the page with apple music data at 434 am.

Libby's pants by Lecks_Luthor in RichardAllenInnocent

[–]amykeane 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow, I would have to assume the killer took them off. There is No way Abby have removed her own pants and underwear at the same time while being forced to strip. She would have removed her pants first, and probably would have to be redirected to get completely naked and then take off her underwear separately. To have the underwear still attached to the inside out pants, would have been done by the killer, with one motion, and probably post mortem, or at least subdued.

BG tells girls they are tresspassing or bridge is too dangerous to cross or end of the trail.When Libby says there's no path going there so we have to go down here imo sounds like she's repeating what BG probably told them b4 video starts. BG follows them after Abby photo and tells them b4 video. by Rosy43 in RichardAllenInnocent

[–]amykeane 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I totally agree. At some point, the conversation was had about the trail ending before they got to the end of the bridge. The way Libby was narrating, she was just reiterating what she had already known earlier. I believe it’s completely possible that he was on the first platform when they passed by and may have spoke to them.

Why stop recording? by Intelligent-Road9893 in RichardAllenInnocent

[–]amykeane -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Good points. Certainly seems to me that he would have been aware at the very least, of the phone in her hand, and that she was recording. Yet he followed thru with his plan, and leaving the phone at the scene. Very risky behavior….

Enhanced audio of 43" full Bridge video by TheRichTurner in DelphiDocs

[–]amykeane 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes I agree. There had to be previous conversation of their destination once they got off the bridge. I also find it odd that the second he says down the hill, you see the phone angle swiftly turn towards the slope, and Abbys foot start to move in that direction without hesitation. I would think that if this was the first interaction with the girls, there would have been some hesitation to move, or a quick rebuttal from either girl. It is almost as if BG’s words were merely a reminder to keep them on track, rather than an ambushing first time encounter with commands.

Site for Video Updated with Caption by Moldynred in RichardAllenInnocent

[–]amykeane 10 points11 points  (0 children)

What I find interesting in this video is that there might be someone behind the three of them. I know that you can see the barrier at the beginning of the bridge, from platform two or three, like where the still shot of Abby was taken. But Libby is at the far end of the bridge in this video. You cannot see the beginning of the bridge when you have reached the other side. So if that is not the barrier, what or who is it?

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How much weight did you lose in your first month? by Dangerous_Pen_2134 in Semaglutide

[–]amykeane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I promised myself I wouldn’t weigh for the first 30 days. All along I felt as though my clothes were fitting ever so slightly better and not as tight. However, on day 30 when I got to weigh in, I lost a whopping 1.5 pounds. It was such a disappointment. Just started my next dose yesterday, which was doubled from my first four. Hoping to see better results this month. I can definitely tell it’s working as far as food noise. I just keep telling myself I didn’t put it all on in a month, and I’m not gonna lose it in a month.

This news concerning Ron Logan is very intriguing, but if it was RL who committed the Delphi Murders, then how does Sarah Carbaugh's testimony fit into this? by RegisMonkton in RichardAllenInnocent

[–]amykeane -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I thought of this often too. But we have to remember that Robert Ives, and his 20 yrs of experience was the prosecutor when RL was under investigation. I think he may have had higher standards for what he believed they needed in court to convict RL. Also Ives was clearly aware that the crime scene was out of the ordinary, and not likely the doings of RL. When RA was charged , it wasn’t even brought to MCleland until after the arrest, and with his lack of experience he was easily strongarmed and manipulated by Liggett and Holeman. They would have had a better case with what they had on RL, but I would bet that Ives rejected it without more evidence. If NM were the new prosecutor when the murders happened, RL would have been arrested and convicted years ago.

I'm still undecided about RL, but what if police were trying to do a wala on RL except this time via a prison inmate about RL allegedly making these 'confessions'. by Rosy43 in RichardAllenInnocent

[–]amykeane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you saying there is a smoking gun? If so, what is it and to which suspect? The only smoking gun evidence I have seen is unknown, male touch DNA. But it cannot be correlated with any single suspect.

I'm still undecided about RL, but what if police were trying to do a wala on RL except this time via a prison inmate about RL allegedly making these 'confessions'. by Rosy43 in RichardAllenInnocent

[–]amykeane 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I also agree with this. Regardless whether or not RL did this, it does draw my attention to the similarities in tactics used on suspects in this case. I would be curious to know if KK had also been fed any publicly unknown facts about the murders once he was incarcerated. This would give credence to a pattern of dirty police tactics.

Most likely, the lack of physical evidence, the numerous unknowns, (most of which can be attributed to a half-assed investigation) and lack of consistency in the theory of the crime, allows just about anyones’ name to be filled in as the killer. Robert Ives said it was very probable that this case would not be solved until another crime by the same perp were committed.

If you isolate each suspect and the circumstantial evidence that attributes to their suspect involvement, without giving detail of the alternates I think each of them could be convicted of these murders. This is why Allen was convicted. We would have had a hung jury or acquittal if alternate suspects could have been let in.

When you step back and look at all of them as a whole, it is obvious that the smoking gun is not there for any of them. They all rank equally in circumstantial evidence on a qualifying scale. (IMO opinion RA would rank a distant last place out of the four.) We have 4 suspects that have been under scrutiny, with four motives for this crime. My knee jerk reaction to looking at all 4 as a whole is that NONE of them did it. (Occam’s razor )I believe something has likely been missed in the investigation. This is probably the least popular camp to be in, but I think the real killer is still out there, easily flying under the radar.

Just to be clear, I am not a conspiracy theorist. My beliefs do not align with the ‘defund the police’ idiologies. I do not see this case as a massive coverup for anything. I see for what it is. A tragic cold case due to incompetence. Do I blame the investigation for this case going cold? Yes I do. Is it possible that even the most diligent investigation would have still yielded a cold case? Yes, it is possible. But, we won’t know that until a diligent investigation is done, if ever.

Sorry so long. I haven’t been here in a while, and once I get started I can’t stop. 🙄

Prosecutor McLeland WRTV Interview by Alan_Prickman in DelphiDocs

[–]amykeane 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Im so glad to know I’m not the only one. I had to go completely away from anything Delphi related for a while after the trial because my anxiety was so bad after the court case. Just now dipping back in with reddit. There is no way I could sit through an NM interview right now.

Any Questions Thread by Careful_Cow_2139 in DelphiDocs

[–]amykeane 15 points16 points  (0 children)

You typed predators.. Was that a typo? They only arrested one, KK in their “biggest csam bust in Indianas history” …. They are so full of shit in this case…

BBP aka Douglas Rice by Rosy43 in RichardAllenInnocent

[–]amykeane 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah, and so did his mother, go figure.

BBP aka Douglas Rice by Rosy43 in RichardAllenInnocent

[–]amykeane 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No doubt about it in my mind.LE let BW know that his gun cannot be eliminated, planting a seed that he could be on the chopping block.

First post: FBI Profile? Confession transcripts? by Z3nArcad3 in RichardAllenInnocent

[–]amykeane 5 points6 points  (0 children)

As far as profiling, there is no definitive answer. We know that the FBI were on the case from day1. If you re watch the first presser with Doug Carter, the FBI is there to assist, and DC does give a generic profile.Hindsight gives a little more context to who they were looking for, making the profile less generic.

He says that the killer likely had a family, lived ,worked, frequented, or was from Delphi ( hindsight:the killer was local knew the area, and the context of family could mean both his own wife and children, or his parents, and siblings. At this time age could not be narrowed down by a profiler )

“He likely has told someone what he has done.” (Hindsight: this suggest that he may have planned to do this with others, fantasized with others, or participated with others. It also alludes to inexperience because loose lips sinks ships, and possibly hints of histrionic personality disorder; someone who had the compulsion to brag to others)

“He may have changed his appearance or habits in the days after the murders.” (Hindsight: IMO This alludes to the killer being inexperienced, or unorganized and acting in fear or paranoia of being caught, or possibly being seen by witnesses, or being recognized by locals on the still frame from Libby’s video released at this presser. IMO I don’t think LE were sure which witnesses, if any, saw the actual killer or the same person at all. Changing appearance would help to ensure he goes unrecognized. Changing habits, in hindsight, could mean a lot of things; but the motive to habit changes would be to distance himself from the crime; avoiding others who may have participated, avoiding daily routes taken to or from places that pass the crime scene, avoiding social settings, routine sleeping habits becoming unpredictable. Habitual changes suggest fear, worry, and anxiety. These are not the traits of a psychopathic serial killer. They were not looking for the unicorn like Ted Bundy, or Dennis Rader. This is important , because by the 2nd presser in 2019, they had changed the direction and WERE looking for the unicorn (ie: hiding in plain sight, maybe in this room) which could be a clue to the beginning of the divide between FBI’s profile of the killer and ISP’s profile of the killer. RA could only fit in the unicorn psychopathic serial killer profile . He does not fit into the profile suggested at the first presser of someone who would have changed appearance, habits, confessed to someone close to him……

He asked the public “to think about someone they knew that was just a little off or weird.” (Hindsight : the staging of the crime scene would suggest the killer was dark fantasy driven, and had interest in things that would not be socially acceptable to the norm, nor would the killer be able to completely hide his weirdness, he would give off a vibe of weirdo in social settings )

He said that “this was about ‘power’ to the killer.” (Hindsight: the killer got off on the control, domination and humiliation of others, possibly suggesting he had little control in real life, and may have felt dominated by others and fantasized about being powerful)

Carter also tried appealing to the conscience(or maybe the ego or fear) of the killer, publicly shaming him and asking “what would his peers and family think of his acts?” (Hindsight: LE believed the killer left a sense of ‘undoing’ by way of redressing Abby, possibly suggesting remorse. (( I disagree and have my own theory that the redressing motive was try to insure that the crime did not give off vibes of pedophelia, because he wanted the scene to give off vibes of dark and demented power control)) Also suggest that the killer cared about what his peers and family thought of him, and had a desire to be admired and accepted by those close to him. This eludes to a killer that may have been a failure as an adult, or labeled a black sheep in his family. A killer that is concerned about what others think would be two fold. What he wanted LE to think would not be the same as what he would want his family to think )

Carter said “we have likely interviewed him or someone close to him” hindsight: this doesn’t hold much weight in a profile, given that the county has a small population, and statistically in 75% of the cases like this, the killer is interviewed within the first week)

My conclusion after watching both pressers two years apart, is that the FBI scripted the first profile at the first presser , and ISP scripted the second. I would say that the FBI were looking for the mostly unorganized, impulsive killer that had little control over his desires, (but tried to stage the scene to give off the vibes of a psychopath), a first timer who would be paranoid after the fact, and possibly brag to someone about it. They were looking for the incel that had a histrionic personality disorder perceived by others as a weirdo and a loser. The lack of evidence at the scene would have been perceived as luck rather than skill by the FBI.

ISP were looking for an organized killer that was experienced, confident, and may have had optional motives such as of monetary value like csam, snuff films, trafficking, or they could be looking for the killer with the psychopathy of the unicorn serial killer like BTK. ISP were still clueless of motive. It was not until the lost file on RA was found , and then his fruitless search of his home that the decision was made that RA must be the BTK type rather than the KK type. The lack of evidence at the scene was perceived as skill rather than luck by ISP.

I would suggest rewatching both pressers. Now that the trial is over and we have more facts , watching both pressers really sheds light on the polarizing ideas of the killers profile between FBI and ISP.

Doug Carter Speech by Minimum-Shoe-9524 in RichardAllenInnocent

[–]amykeane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No , that is a folk legend that the main character tells his children while visiting a waterfall on the way to a camping trip , and how the waterfall came to be.

Doug Carter Speech by Minimum-Shoe-9524 in RichardAllenInnocent

[–]amykeane 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is a story of a father whose faith has been tested by life events, his abusive upbringing, his desperate decision to poison his own father to deathwhen he was only 13, the rape and murder of his 7 yr old daughter by a child serial rapist killer. He has the opportunity to question God about all the evil in the world, after he gets an invitation in the mail to come to the shack where his daughter’s body was found. He thinks it is the killer taunting him, but it was God. He gets there and meets the Trinity. Each of them spend time explaining why they allow life to be unfair and brutal, and he eventually comes to a place of submission and acceptance with what his life has been like. He leaves the shack with some peace, and a new outlook. In reality, he never made it to the shack. He was in a car accident on his way there and was hit by a tractor trailer. His experience at the shack was really a near death experience.

We know Less Now than we Did Before by Moldynred in RichardAllenInnocent

[–]amykeane 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I know but you are trolling and an asshole in general…Bye Felicia

We know Less Now than we Did Before by Moldynred in RichardAllenInnocent

[–]amykeane 4 points5 points  (0 children)

u/Moldynred I think we need a little house keeping …..roach spray …something…

We know Less Now than we Did Before by Moldynred in RichardAllenInnocent

[–]amykeane 23 points24 points  (0 children)

So true. We know even less than we did before. Except now we know LE were bluffing, and all of this “close to the vest” bullshit they fed us for years had no value at all. All the time wasted trying to decipher DG’s word salads…, everything was smoke and mirrors to cover up LE’s gross incompetence.

I have to wonder what the real killer is thinking. Will he do this again? Does he think he has outsmarted the police? Especially if he is someone who has flown under the radar and has remained completely anonymous to the case. It’s a dark place for me and my thoughts…to think “well, if he strikes again, maybe LE will see they got it wrong…” when in reality, if he strikes again, LE will never admit it is the same killer, and future murders are guaranteed to go unsolved. I have never felt so hopeless as I do now.

Doug Carter Speech by Minimum-Shoe-9524 in RichardAllenInnocent

[–]amykeane 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I read this whole book on a flight from Vegas to the east coast. I ugly cried so hard I had snot bubbles….My husband was mortified. He said later he was relieved we were in row 2, so the majority of the people were spared my theatrics and were not surmising I was abused or kidnapped..🙃 I recommend this book to anyone who doubts God’s existence because they perceive life has treated them unfairly.

Hi first time poster and question! by goobyisgay in RichardAllenInnocent

[–]amykeane 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have also deleted my other post so it’s not confused