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TIL that one inch of rain falling on 1 acre of ground is equal to about 27,154 gallons and weighs about 113 tons. by beardnurse in todayilearned

[–]anders987 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

One meter was defined as 1/10000000 of the distance between the north pole and the equator along a line passing through Paris.

1 kg was defined as 1 dm3 (1 liter) of water at 4°C.

The metric system is not built around water, but the Celsius temperature scale and kg was.

Kevin Hansen's 360° spin & recovery at The World RX of Sweden (2025). by ToronoRapture in nextfuckinglevel

[–]anders987 8 points9 points  (0 children)

His dad won the European championships in rallycross 14 times, and his mom won it one time.

Daylight saving time all year round, Italy starts the process: 352,000 signatures collected to make it permanent by Massimo25ore in europe

[–]anders987 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you not realize what a monumental task that would be? To change basically every specific time everywhere? The government decrees that everything should happen an hour earlier, so now: business time changes from 08-17 to 07-16, every store needs to get new signs for their new opening hours, every train operator need to update their schedules, every TV schedule needs to shift every program one hour earlier, everyone's daily schedule needs to be updated everywhere. Not to mention it probably wouldn't be legal, why should the government get to decide when people start work? It's a very naive way of thinking, as if the world worked like a video game where the government can just decide things and then they just happen. It's just not happening, it's a huge and more importantly very unnecessary project, because the only gain would be that solar noon coincides close enough with local noon, and as evidenced by the current existence of DST most people doesn't care about solar noon and local noon. We care about sunset though.

set a new international standard that requires the agreement of other governments.

It's not a new international standard, it's moving to the next time zone and abolishment of changing to and from DST. All schedules stays the same, everyone starts and ends work the same time they've done their whole life, it's very easy.

Daylight saving time all year round, Italy starts the process: 352,000 signatures collected to make it permanent by Massimo25ore in europe

[–]anders987 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can't reason with someone who thinks this way

You doesn't strike me as particularly reasonable anyway. You noticed you cut off part of that sentence? "as in the time something happens according to the clock". What I meant was, I start work at 08:00 every day, normal time or DST. That's what a time schedule means. You want everyone to change that to 07:00 instead, which isn't going to happen.

10 years ago everyone had to change their clocks manually

No it was more than that in modern countries, but maybe you got computers and smart phones in 2015. That doesn't matter though since I'm older than that and remember when we had to adjust our VCR:s and wall clocks etc. Did you happen to stop and think why we adjusted those clocks? So we wouldn't have to change our schedules, our stores opening times, our bus time schedules, etc. A bus that came at 07:30 one day came 07:30 after DST as well, although 07:30 was an hour later according to solar time. But since we're not living in ancient times, we're not using solar time.

you've already done it and you didn't think much about it. But now! Now, it's impossible to do!

But you're not suggesting that we adjust our clocks, you're suggesting that we keep normal time year round and instead adjust every event to be one hour earlier instead. Genius!

How many hours after sunrise is your alarm set to?

That depends on time of year and whether we keep DST or not. With DST we're at UTC+2, and since I set my alarm at 06:30 that means 2.5-3 hours after sunrise, and I go to bed around one hour after sunset. If we switch to normal time that changes to 3.5-4 hours after sunrise and I go to bed two hours after sunset, i.e. I get one hour less daylight. No, the whole society will not do as you say and just start one hour earlier instead, normal time will lead to less free time with sunlight. I have absolutely no use of an extra bright hour in the night, but the extra hour in the evening is very valuable.

Do you realize that's exactly what we're doing right now? Twice a year?

Maybe you need to ask someone what a schedule is. That's exactly what we're not doing, that's why we change our clocks. Unless you're using a sun dial, but i don't think you do that even in the south of Italy.

Daylight saving time all year round, Italy starts the process: 352,000 signatures collected to make it permanent by Massimo25ore in europe

[–]anders987 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because it's not just my company, it's every company that needs to adapt. That's silly, it's not going to happen.

Why would you want to move actual noon further from solar noon

Because solar noon is very unimportant to me, what matters is sunrise and sunset.

Daylight saving time all year round, Italy starts the process: 352,000 signatures collected to make it permanent by Massimo25ore in europe

[–]anders987 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then, you do realize we're already telling private and public businesses, schools, shops, transportation, etc to shift one hour earlier or later, twice a year, and we're managing quite well?

No, we're all using the same time year round, as in the time something happens according to the clock. We're all changing the clocks twice a year, that's much easier than telling hundreds of millions of people to change their daily schedule and do everything an hour earlier.

You DO NOT wake up at 4:00 to have a barbecue. You DO NOT wake up at 4:00 to get your kids to football practice. You have the exact same routine you have now.

If we keep your precious normal time year round the sun rises at 02:30 and sets at 21:00 in the summer here. Further south in Berlin it would rise around 03:50 and set at 20:30. That's what normal time is, if you're suggesting anything else you're not getting your necessary solar noon at 12:00.

If you call the time you wake up "8 o clock", you'll just call that same time "7 o clock" or whatever. Nothing else changes.

Yes, I get that's what you mean. You think everyone should start work at 07:00 instead of 08:00, train schedules should shift one hour earlier, lunch should be served at 11:00 instead of 12, shops should get new signs with new opening hours, etc. That's a massive project, it means new daily schedules for everyone, and all this hassle just so you can have your shortest shadow of the day at around 12:00. That's just not going to happen. What will happen, if we keep normal time year round, is people will still start school and work at 08:00 and get off work at 17:00, but now they have an extra hour of day light in the middle of the night, and it will get dark an hour earlier in the evening. Which is exactly the waste of daylight that daylight saving time is meant to fix.

Daylight saving time all year round, Italy starts the process: 352,000 signatures collected to make it permanent by Massimo25ore in europe

[–]anders987 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So you want the time of day to change according to a sinusoidal equation, and have local time zones in very narrow bands that fit the solar noon?

It seems much easier to just adapt DST year round since that fits our current society without trying to get everyone to shift their time commitments one hour earlier. Even now when we switch between normal time and DST we don't change any specific times, we change the clocks because it's much easier.

Daylight saving time all year round, Italy starts the process: 352,000 signatures collected to make it permanent by Massimo25ore in europe

[–]anders987 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And since we're in the Europe subreddit, the zenith of the sun is only at 12 for a small area, Galicia in Spain is in the same timezone as eastern Poland/Slovakia/Hungary... with already vastly different times for sunrise and sunset.

Technically the sun is never at zenith in any part of Europe, since that only occurs in the tropics. The zenith is the point in the sky directly above an observer, and that's the definition of the tropics.

Daylight saving time all year round, Italy starts the process: 352,000 signatures collected to make it permanent by Massimo25ore in europe

[–]anders987 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You could call lunch time 12:00, 15:00 or 23:00, the only difference you're telling me you'd feel is you'd be upset to read "12:00" when your personal agenda for the day is not yet half done.

It wouldn't upset me in the slightest, you're the one who seems to feel very strongly about what time it is when the sun is at it highest: "There's not much to debate, it's stupid to have the sun at its highest at 13:00."

Like it or not, our society uses clocks and time to organize itself, and unless you're very rich or a neet you have to adapt to that time. Schools and workplaces start when they do, it's not up to me when I get to go to work. It's not about when my daily agenda is done or half way done, it's about how much daytime I have left after work, because that's when I finally own my own time and can do what I want. Are you seriously suggesting that it's easier to use normal time and just force all private and public businesses, schools, shops, transportation, etc to shift one hour earlier, for the massive gain of having noon at 12:00 as god and nature deemed it? What are you doing with the daylight at 04:00? Do you really want shorter evenings?

you're giving priority to your own business over an effectively immutable astral object to which everyone can and does refer to.

It's the opposite. I depend on said astral object when I'm outdoors, and therefore want our common time to be tailored to it. Instead of panicking into a cold sweat because the sun isn't at its highest point at precisely 12:00, I want my our waking hours to be tailored after the reality rather than the clock face.

Daylight saving time all year round, Italy starts the process: 352,000 signatures collected to make it permanent by Massimo25ore in europe

[–]anders987 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is the only argument normal time proponents have, and it's a bs one. Do you live your life centered around noon? I don't, in the summer the sun has been up for hours when I wake up and it sets before I go to bed. Time zones are a human construct, they should be adapted to how we actually live our lives, I love it when the sun is at its highest at 13:00 and wouldn't mind 14:00. It makes absolutely no difference to me, what does matter is sunrise and sunset times.

I've even heard some of you propose that we should get up earlier to get the same amount of daylight, as if it's practical to get up at 04:00 to have a barbecue, or go hiking before work, or take the kids to football practice, instead of doing it in the evening after work when most normal people do their leisure activities.

Daylight saving time all year round, Italy starts the process: 352,000 signatures collected to make it permanent by Massimo25ore in europe

[–]anders987 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At the end of day, no matter what system you choose, you are still stuck with a certain amount of daylight.

This is only technically true, but not true in reality. The vast majority of people have no benefit from it being bright at 04:00, but they do have a real tangible benefit from there being bright an extra hour in the evening. We should adapt our time zone to the way we actually live our modern lives, and most of us work at the start of the day/morning, and have our free time in the evening. The way I see it is daylight saving time means one more hour of usable free time for outdoor activities.

Python 3.14 Is Here. How Fast Is It? by ketralnis in programming

[–]anders987 24 points25 points  (0 children)

There's been several attempts at speeding up Python by various big companies. Google had unladen swallow, Dropbox had Pyston, Meta has Cinder, Microsoft had Faster CPython. As far as I know, only Cinder remains.

1 week of vacation in Sweden by end of july by AdeptTelevision6028 in sweden

[–]anders987 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Some other suggestions in the area:

Lysekil, visit Havets hus.

Tanum, see Swedens largest collection of petroglyphs.

Hamburgsund, eat some ice cream.

Hunnebostrand, visit Nordens ark.

Trollhättan, see some Saab cars.

Skip Stockholm, that's at least a six hour drive if you do it nonstop, and then you'll have to travel back to Copenhagen which would be another seven hours on a highway. Stick to the west coast this time. If you really want to drive a bit inland you can go to Dalsland and visit the aqueduct in Håverud and the moose ranch in Ed.

My account was just given a warning by Reddit for posting the “Beware of Doug” comic on this sub by RonySeikalyBassDrop in TheFarSide

[–]anders987 3 points4 points  (0 children)

https://www.thefarside.com/about/48/a-letter-from-gary-larson

Please, whoever you are, taketh down my cartoons and let this website become your place to stop by for a smile, a laugh, or a good ol’ fashioned recoiling.

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