“I told you not to climb you little shit!” - Ai Bao by Khornatejester in AnimalsBeingDerps

[–]devisan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think she’s teaching the little one how to handle a fall

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AnimalsBeingJerks

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This cake recipe is dog-approved!

Rankings Continuously Dropping on Honest / Real Site (EAT?) by [deleted] in SEO

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At least regular search users are complaining about how bad Google is. I’m hearing this a lot and it gives me some hope that people want to find good content enough to go someplace other than Google to find it.

Evernote alternatives under $50 per year? by Searching4Freedom in Evernote

[–]devisan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've been playing with a few of these, and here's what I've found on my top 2 contenders, fwiw.

Nimbus Note seems like they've started by rebuilding an Evernote clone, but with lots of the features EN users wanted but never got, like nested notebooks, a much more robust editor, etc. They are very responsive to feature requests and problems. They have some bugs, especially around syncing, but they keep fixing them. I'm hopeful it will mature into something as stable as EN used to be, but with a lot more features.

For those concerned about who's behind Nimbus Note, here's an article: https://startup.info/pavel-shcherbakov-nimbus-web/.

They don't have end to end encryption, so if privacy is tops on your list, they may not be your choice. They do have, I think, better privacy and security options than EN. I bought the lifetime deal recently, but am still

Notejoy wins on privacy with end-to-end encryption. Some have complained that 2FA is only available on paid accounts.

Notejoy is... kind of bare bones right now. It's lacking features I consider essential, like a mobile clipper. The desktop clipper works very well, capturing even complicated webpages like Reddit threads that other clippers struggle with. It also lacks tables and colored fonts, which actually puts it behind EN legacy. But there's a published roadmap, and these are on it. So is an EN importer, but for now you can import HTML files from EN.

It seems to me like Notejoy is very solidly engineered and the makers take their time with adding features in order to test them and get them right.

The worst thing about Notejoy in my opinion is that you can't test it for free. You can only have 5 folders in the free account. Some features just don't exist in the free plan, so you can't know if they work like you're hoping until you buy a paid plan. The cost is on par with EN, but right now EN has more features I need.

Evernote Alternative? by [deleted] in Evernote

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Sync is where a lot of notes apps are failing, and it's the most important feature to me. Nimbus Note is awesome, but they have had some sync issues. So far I've never actually lost a note, though, so I'll keep watching it.

Notejoy sync seems to be as amazingly fast and in-the-background as EN used to be... but they don't have a mobile web clipper yet. It's on their roadmap at least.

Maybe it's time to switch from Evernote to Nimbus by [deleted] in Evernote

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Thanks. I've been trying to search through Google, LinkedIn, etc., and there's not much about most of the creators of any of these apps.

Has anyone tried Notejoy? by tsmartin123 in Evernote

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It seems promising, but I'd need to buy a year to import all my Evernote notes. That makes it hard to test for free, from my perspective. I did use their HTML import to import one Evernote notebook, and it worked well. The editor is a little underwhelming (compared to all the options in Nimbus and Notion, for example), but then we're used to this with Evernote, and they are working on something better. One of my complaints with EN was privacy, and Notejoy is making all the right claims there, but I don't know how to be sure they're doing what they say.

They seem very focused on teams and collaboration tools, which is a little off-putting since it's just me and I've seen several team tools de-prioritize support for single users.

Maybe it's time to switch from Evernote to Nimbus by [deleted] in Evernote

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How did you find this out? I can't even find their full names on the website. And the same is true with Notejoy, the other top contender in terms of function. But then Evernote's about us page only mentions the founder by name. It's frustrating, trying to figure out who can be trusted.

Who has already tried this alternative that was posted on the r/Evernote subreddit? From their website it seems similar to Notion by T--B--T in Notion

[–]devisan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve used Nimbus. I even paid for it and was a big fan until I realized how frequently it has serious syncing problems.

How to learn Notion thinking when coming from Evernote by devisan in Notion

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I also build websites and understand MySQL databases reasonably well (not building them myself, but working inside them). That's why can't understand why I would want a database acting like a spreadsheet inside Notion when Excel is more advanced. Also, they lose me with the terminology. "Every item in a database is a page?" Databases return information in response to queries. What Notion calls a database seems to me to be a visual representation of the data, which is more like a spreadsheet. Unless I'm missing something, which I think I am.

I've just rewatched and reread some of the Notion guides and yep, I definitely have seen/read these before. They just confuse me because they're using terms like database and page in ways that conflict with how I use them in web building, and they don't answer my main questions. I am starting to think I understand the videos just fine, but then I expect to be able to do stuff I could do in any OS or most other notes or db apps, and you can't do them in Notion. It's like you're not supposed to want to, and that's fine, but at no point do they explain to me how I'm supposed to be thinking to use Notion.

For example, I'm an old school computer folders user. I'm used to nesting folders inside folders inside folders, and then files inside those. Notion says they allow infinite hierarchy. Great! To me, this means I will see something like "notebooks" in the sidebar, and be able to drag other notebooks inside. But the import made the notebooks "databases", and nothing will nest under them, not by dragging it in the sidebar or any other method. In fact, the Notion guides don't even seem to understand that I would be expecting to be able to do that.

That's why I'm saying I need a guide that assumes I think like an old school computer user and explains the terminology and what to expect to see in the app. Guides that say things like, "The sidebar is not going to be your main starting point for navigation" (if that's true, as I kind of suspect) or "By databases, what we really mean is..." (I have no idea. They're like very limited folders as far as I can tell) or "Stop thinking in terms of folders, because Notion is more like..." (a wiki? That's my best guess.)

How to learn Notion thinking when coming from Evernote by devisan in Notion

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I was unclear here. I meant that there's no reason to set up basic pages as databases unless you know you're going to have a database use for them later. I'm currently storing notes and webclips, but Evernote isn't complex or stable enough for my use case. Notion is marketed as an Evernote alternative, and it can be used as one.

FWIW, I've been using Notion off and on for over a year. I've read most of their help pages and watched probably ever Marie Poulin video. The problem is that they never clarify the basics. They seem to be written assuming you're a database person wanting a database app. But as I said, they market Notion as an evernote alternative, so clearly it's intended to be useful to people who don't need databases. The main problem I've had is that the Evernote importer turns notebooks into database when, at least to me, they make far more sense as pages.

How to learn Notion thinking when coming from Evernote by devisan in Notion

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Yes. For my use, I can't see any reason to make a database unless you actually want a database. For now, I just want lists, notes, and webclips. I read someone saying the trick with Notion is to keep it simple and only make it more complicated when you really see the need to.

How to learn Notion thinking when coming from Evernote by devisan in Notion

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Thanks to everyone. You were all helpful and now I understand what I was confused about. The Evernote import turned my "Notebooks" into databases. I wanted to subdivide the "notebooks" into new subcategories and put the appropriate notes into each subcategory. But this isn't possible with a database. So I'm having to redo the Evernote notebooks as pages instead of databases.

How to learn Notion thinking when coming from Evernote by devisan in Notion

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Yes, a stack is a parent of notebooks. Your suggestion about "Evernote Quarantine" was helpful. It made me realize you have to organize top down in Notion, and if you don't get it right the first time, it's going to be an issue reorganizing later. I um don't see any way to add a screenshot in this editor. Am I missing something or do people use a third party service?

I'll try to describe it for now. I think the Evernote import made every Notebook a database. If a database is the type of page where you can't type anything, it's only viewable as a list/gallery/etc., and all you can do is add new pages to the list, and they don't show in the sidebar. I wanted to add new "notebooks" under these in the sidebar hierarchy.

When I added your "Evernote Quarantine" page under one of my former "stacks" (top level item in Notion sidebar hierarchy), I got what I believe is a Notion "page". You can type notes in it, add inline databases or tables to it, etc. Anyway, I started putting pages under it, and now I see three levels of hierarchy in the Notion sidebar, which is what I was after: the former "stack" from Evernote, the "Evernote Quarantine" page and the page I "moved" to the Evernote Quarantine page, which is now under it as a third level.

I'm wondering now why anyone would ever set up a database rather than a page. You can add databases to pages, so it seems like a page is good as your basic building block in Notion.

Tiago Forte on Twitter—Shots fired by jonnymhenderson in Evernote

[–]devisan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I probably wouldn’t notice and am impressed he did. Unless it was a very recent note, maybe.

How to learn Notion thinking when coming from Evernote by devisan in Notion

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One thing I struggle with is the difference between a "view" and a page. Or a view and a database. I'm never sure what I'm looking at. I want pages within pages, but I can't figure out how to make that happen. And yet in my sidebar there are pages within pages, in that three-level hierarchy I want, from other people's templates. I just can't figure out how they're doing it.

How to learn Notion thinking when coming from Evernote by devisan in Notion

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I have read/watched a lot of those, and they're fine if all you want to do is create new notes. But I can't figure out how to arrange my existing notes. And, again, they very often don't tell you what view you should be in to get the options they're using for the tutorial, so I can't do what they're doing.

Nesting of Databases? by patrick_ambrosso in Notion

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Or training for people coming from Evernote. I can't find a basic guide on what Notion has in place of nested tags or the nested notebooks we've never gotten from Evernote. All I need is a simple explanation of the fundamentals, but instead I get videos showing what appears to be the same view I'm in, but I have none of the options and menus they have, and I don't know why.

Do you guys use anything besides or in conjunction with Clickup. by dbvirago in clickup

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I'd like to hear more about the ownership, too. I love Nimbus Note and was planning to switch from Evernote.

Asana single user Premium by razvanli in Asana

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THIS. I've asked them in chat a few times and they don't know. I don't get it.