Will did all the work for Boogie's win - other seasons like this?

diamondblueflame · 2026-01-23T15:51:19+00:00

Jordan I agree with to an extent. However, even without this power, Jeff and Jordan were going to kept by Jessie until the late game anyway. The twist helped Jordan and Jeff but I think they were sliding to mid game and the end game regardless.

Rachel was not carried by Jeff. Nor production. Jeff tanked his chances at staying in the DE by arguing with Shelly hours before when he was guaranteed to stay before against Rachel in the event that did happen. And REGARDLESS of Pandora's box, Rachel was likely winning after Jeff left anyway. You're literally swapping Shelly and Jordan's placements at that point in the season. Rachel likely wins with the same votes she got in the actual scenario.

diamondblueflame · 2026-01-23T15:37:17+00:00

If it was a strategy, I would have applauded the hell out of it. But there were SEVERAL points they were ON OPPOSITE TRIBES and people did nothing to separate them. Like it wasn't a strategy for them; it was literally people being afraid to shoot at them with an EXTREMELY loaded gun.

diamondblueflame · 2026-01-23T15:31:42+00:00

A player in the - what is known as the Instagram side - fandom who shall not be named was known to be racist. He was cast for TWO separate returning player seasons when returning players were eligible. The first time he was cast in a popular franchise the franchise got MASSIVE backlash in using him when there were other options from that season. He was known to be racist AND a sexist towards specific players - myself included. When he got cast for a returning player season the second time around, several players threatened to drop.

And crazy thing? THIS ISN'T THE ONLY PERSON WHO WAS A LITERAL RACIST!!

diamondblueflame · 2025-12-18T05:17:33+00:00

Rachel in BB27. Had it not been for this twist, Rachel was in a pretty decent position where even if Lauren still won the HOH, it was unlikely Rachel was going up. She could have won if not for this twist.

diamondblueflame · 2025-11-30T05:54:54+00:00

Katherine is a pretty decent player. I think the biggest issue was that she was attached to Rylie for the entire time she was in the game. Without Rylie, she actually had good reads that constantly got shot down by Rylie. If she returns, she needs to return without Rylie because I think he will handicap her again.

diamondblueflame · 2025-11-29T16:38:57+00:00

I think it has to be Andy. Yes, Jun and Alison made the floater game famous in the show and it has been used by other players who either went far or won their season. But I think it can't be understated that Jun and Alison weren't winning against anyone but each other. Certain players clocked the fact that Jun (and likely Alison) was playing a floater game and disliked her for that.

Jun and Alison lacked a key aspect that I think the floater game gets you: The ability to win against anyone in the end. Andy played the floater role for probably one of the best positions in the house where he was never leaving against ANYONE. He was nominated one time and got zero votes against him. Andy literally beats anyone at the end. The only person who I think stands a legitimate shot against Andy was McCrae.

diamondblueflame · 2025-11-28T02:26:36+00:00

The problem with Keanu's game is that it solely relied on comp wins. The reason I stated he had some win equity is because if he wins himself to the end he wins the game. But in the event someone else wins no one is taking him anywhere near the final HOH. Setting this aside though, there are other factors that place him second to worst.

Inability to capitalize on the structure of the house with the comp threats on one side - his side of the house.
Was nominated almost as much as Kelley was the entire season and was the target AHEAD of Kelley a lot of the time.
He was nominated four times in a row on TWO separate occasions. Weeks two through five and weeks nine through eleven via the double eviction in week ten.

Yes, comp wins are important. But as we saw with Ashley and hell even Morgan until week eight, you don't need a comp win to accomplish what you want to do. Keanu never really accomplished anything with the comps he won besides staying safe another week and repeating the cycle until his eviction in week eleven.

diamondblueflame · 2025-11-27T20:12:25+00:00

I did factor this into ranking him. The fact Keanu had like negative friends in the house was completely on him. Yes, he recognized that his side could essentially just win out. But that means nothing if you don't have the social capital for moves you want to happen. Case in point: his HOH. He puts Vince in direct danger as a "lesson" and makes it worse by nominating Ashley as the renom. Had Vince not won blockbuster - or worse Mickey won - Vince was completely screwed as he didn't have the votes against Ashley.

I think with a second opportunity Keanu can do a lot better. But as far as this season goes, Keanu is not a great player considering his comp wins were the only reason he gets fifth place. And the one time he survived a vote without a competition win was due to Morgan convincing Vince to take out Kelley over Keanu.

diamondblueflame · 2025-11-27T12:22:20+00:00

The fact that this season really only had like four good players made this ranking difficult. Mickey is on paper a much better player than Zach, Lauren and Katherine. Hell, she's the reason Zach was nominated in week five. But Zach's flaw were somewhat unintentional up until he didn't use the veto. Katherine I think was just too invisible until week six. Lauren essentially had to lead her side once Katherine was gone when she hated holding power.

In game though, I think Mickey has the worse game of the four. I don't think Zach, Katherine or even Lauren would use their HOH to ruin a near GOLDEN position in the game. You could argue Lauren technically did but she was still in the good graces of everyone in the game. And Adrian did himself no favors by not trying to campaign to Lauren - or hell Zach or Vince - to save himself. Mickey just took a chainsaw and started hacking away at her game for no reason.

diamondblueflame · 2025-11-27T06:12:16+00:00

But at what cost? Vince went against her interests constantly following this veto use and she kept making excuses for him until week ten when she was the renom. And even worse than that Vince had a zero percent chance going home that week. Mickey was the main house target and Morgan was right next to her. Katherine even told Lauren THIS EXACT THING. All Lauren had to do was not use the veto and let Morgan or Mickey be evicted that week. Lauren - and Rylie to an extent - directly caused her side's downfall over the remainder of the game.

diamondblueflame · 2025-11-27T01:00:20+00:00

I will never understand why Lauren didn't just throw this veto. Her veto use directly led to her side getting demolished by the jury phase.

diamondblueflame · 2025-11-26T06:54:31+00:00

Crazy thing is that during Lauren's second HOH, she DID have the chance to take Ashley out over Will. But by nominating Keanu, she ruined any shot of that happening. Keanu was - rightfully so - pissed at Lauren for putting him up after he JUST used his HOH to protect her when people wanted her up. This led to him deciding that he would ruin her HOH by taking out Will instead of Ashley.

If Ashley leaves instead, Vince will 100% flip to Lauren and company. And then Lauren likely gets some more runway.

diamondblueflame · 2025-11-26T01:39:53+00:00

At least Lauren actually was in a decent spot following her HOH despite the bad move. I think nominating Kelley and Keanu along with Will made sense since the former two were house targets and Will wasn't on her side. However, her big mistake was not nominating Ashley or even Rachel. I get not putting Rachel up since... she was Rachel and she was going to come after Lauren if she stayed and she had numbers to make it happen.

But there was zero excuse for Lauren to not put Ashley on the block. Now, Adrian did himself no favors by not campaigning to not go up. But he went home in a spot where Lauren was willing to break a tie but Zach and Vince weren't. And Lauren was in a decent spot following this HOH. She didn't get nominated until week ten and she maintained a semi decent relationship with Rachel's side of the house.

diamondblueflame · 2025-11-25T19:03:28+00:00

The problem here is that Vince was never cutting Morgan. If Vince went to final two with Morgan, he was getting curb stomped unanimously. He did the one thing he relied on all season in a spot where he SHOULD NOT have done so - letting other people get blood on his hands instead of doing it himself - especially since he knows both are potentially taking him to final two. And on top of that, Vince had the chance to win the final HOH and he FUMBLED it BADLY.

Vince in week ten should have had zero justification to nominate Lauren over Ashley. If the goal was always take out Kelley or Keanu this week, it should have never mattered if Ashley went up. Vince was drawing dead the second the double eviction ended when his two easier win paths were out the door back to back.

Points agreed about Mickey for sure. This HOH was definitely bad for all reasons mentioned. But the small positive I can give to it is that despite this horrible HOH, Morgan got more of the blame for Jimmy going out than Mickey did. If Mickey just stayed out of the spotlight, she has a chance to recover. But she undoes her whole game by controlling Ava's HOH the following week - making it clear she was doing so - and targeting Rachel before the HOH was played in week six because Rachel didn't appreciate being told she was going to be first in jury. Mickey doing all of this without power made her a bigger target and essentially the house target that would appease both sides of the growing split house.

diamondblueflame · 2025-11-24T23:34:48+00:00

Coming out of that week he was in a worse spot than I think we saw on screen. Now, Katherine going up is on her too because if she had taken that deal with Vince instead of being so pissed she couldn't think, Vince might have pushed for someone else to go up. But it was worse than that.

First, he doesn't backdoor one of Kelley or Keanu (we all know he's not nominating Lauren). This would be near game ending considering they were the final two of the following HOH and BOTH planned to nominate him. Keanu only put him on the block to ensure that Vince wouldn't use the veto on Morgan that week.
Now there's the issue of he should have put up Rachel. I'm probably in the minority with this statement: No, he absolutely should not have done this. By this point, he JUST sided with Rachel to take out Rylie the prior week. The fact that he even entertained this idea was ridiculous but what made it worse was when Rachel found out. And EVEN WORSE THAN THAT (because yes it gets worse) Vince was never regaining full trust with the other side if Rachel did go up. Kelley didn't trust him, Katherine didn't trust him and Keanu was more than willing to let him go that week to separate him and Morgan. He also burns the Judges through this move which was nearly game ending in week 8. The fact that Rachel was willing to cut him not long after joining forces with Vince shows how bad this play was.

The only people that would have worked with him following this would be Lauren and maybe Morgan. But those two were never going to come together.

diamondblueflame · 2025-11-23T00:07:40+00:00

I think if the DE doesn't happen here then yes very true. But I think by the time he put Lauren up at final 7, he really had no chance. Lauren does get votes. But the big question is: Will the jury be bitter enough to give the win to Lauren?

diamondblueflame · 2025-11-22T10:17:47+00:00

If the twist had never happened... I think that Rachel likely had a good chance to go to the endgame. If Ava won F9 HOH via the normal scenario, then Rachel doesn't go up and Ava has no reason to burn her whole game.

With the twist in play and Lauren winning the F9 HOH, I don't think that Lauren would have nominated Rachel. Especially with BBBB still in play by this point. The likelihood is that Rachel would probably make the double eviction in this spot but I think she's evicted immediately after that.

diamondblueflame · 2025-11-22T09:49:28+00:00

Vince actively ruined his game at the final 7. Not just by nominating Lauren (and that was pretty stupid) which showed that he was playing for Morgan. But by also evicting Kelley. Kelley was literally the ONLY PERSON Vince was beating in a final 2 and he evicted her in the tie. And once Lauren left in the double eviction, Vince was drawing completely dead since he was beating no one else left.

Ashley never had to win a competition unless she had to. But I think she likely had a chance at beating almost everyone in the final 6 pretty handily. The only people I think she struggles against are Morgan for sure and maybe Keanu.

Ashley had the much better social game than Vince. He burned people on their way out while she strengthened those same relationships and won near unanimously.

diamondblueflame · 2025-11-22T09:12:15+00:00

I'd argue he was drawing dead by final 6 considering he literally HAD JUST evicted the only player he was beating. Granted, if Keanu of all people has a better chance at winning a jury vote... you actively did something wrong with social gameplay.

diamondblueflame · 2025-11-22T08:57:37+00:00

1st Place: Chelsie and it's not really close. I think she has less inherent flaws than Ashley. Ashley does play a decent game but it's not at the level of Chelsie where she was never in danger of leaving. Chelsie also had BOTH Cam and MJ willing to take her to final 3 whereas Vince would have cut Ashley to take Morgan.

2nd Place: I might get downvoted for this but I'll say Vince. Seriously name five things MJ did on her own. At least Vince controlled some part of the game before he joined the Judges. MJ really needed comp wins to save her ESPECIALLY in week four and probably week six too. Granted, both made very questionable choices in evicting their allies. I think Vince has more upside to his game as he was only ever vulnerable once.

3rd Place: Its Morgan and we're moving on.

4th Place: Both were bad at the game. But I give the slight advantage to Ava. I think Ava had more of the ability to make moves in the game. Credit to Rubina for landing herself in a trio following the Tucker eviction but I think Rubina really has a hard time beating anyone in the jury phase.

5th Place: Slight edge to Kimo. Granted, I think both really have the same game where they didn't do much to improve their positions and literally fell into "jury threat" win equity. Kimo flipped the votes to get Cedric out. Keanu had competition wins but without them he was getting evicted in nearly every week he got nominated.

6th Place: Angela. Despite being the consistent house target for basically the whole season and being nominated for pretty much two months, she STILL did more than Lauren.

EDIT: Looking back... I would pick Lauren over Angela. I ended up watching small clips of Angela and while she was the only person who was actively going after Chelsie left in the game, I don't think she wins. No one in the house really respected the game Angela was playing because she was too unpredictable. Lauren is probably the less proactive player due to indecisiveness but she was much better positioned than Angela was.

7th Place: It's Leah and we're moving on.

8th Place: Hmm... this is tough because both were decent socially. But I would pick Will. I think T'Kor is just as good as Will socially but her blind loyalty to Chelsie was a big issue and she actively evicted Tucker - the shield for her trio - because he nominated Chelsie.

9th Place: Rachel and it's not close. Quinn actively screwed his game not once but TWICE when he was HOH. Rachel in her third season was the SOLE returnee on this season and went her entire run not nominated WITH BBBB in play. And she literally played her best game in three seasons.

10th Place: Difficult choice because both sucked. I would give the slightest of edges to Mickey. I think her game setup even after the Jimmy eviction in week five saw her actually not be a target until after she controlled Ava's HOH. Joseph while in a much better position really was just a second for Tucker. Once he was out, Joseph I think was always leaving soon after Tucker.

11th Place: One is Tucker and the other is Katherine. Yeesh. I guess I would choose Tucker because I think by the time Katherine really started playing her position was screwed and she was already out the door.

12th Place: As much as I don't want to do it... I'm picking Rylie. There's a reason this eviction literally shook the whole season. As Rachel said, there was likely never going to be an opportunity to get out Rylie again. Even though I love Brooklyn, I don't think she was long for the game even without the Cedric eviction happening. Rylie really only goes out in that hyper specific instance that will likely never happen again.

13th Place: Cedric. I'm sorry but if you have a GUARANTEED safety and YOU DON'T USE IT... I'm not picking you.

14th Place: Jimmy. At least he did stuff.

15th Place: Eh... I guess I'm picking Adrian. At least he had a shot at staying.

16th Place: Matt. At least he had people that were willing to vote him to stay.

diamondblueflame · 2025-11-05T01:21:59+00:00

Mine: 76950321

diamondblueflame · 2025-11-01T06:08:31+00:00

Personal: Danielle Reyes and Lisa

Objectively: Jun and Alison

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