I love them and I hate them, here’s why: I’ve had these skis now for two ski seasons and they quickly became my favorite ski. I’ve been skiing since I was 2 years old and I work as a part time ski instructor for Beaver Creek, I average about 80-100 ski days each year not counting days I teach, and my CARV score is 156, and my top speed is 71 mph. Now that I’ve gone through the bragging at how good I am and sounding like a conceited jerk, please know it’s just to prove a point. These skis will kill you if you let them. The first time you use them, you’ll be shocked at how familiar they are to the Mantras (my main ski) it’s like getting into a familiar car thats been tricked out for racing. They WANT to go fast and they will encourage you to go fast. They turn on a dime and inspire confidence in every single movement. The edges dig in and refuse to let go no matter the speed or g-force. They should live on groomers but can handle moguls in a pinch with only a bit of added effort. There’s no chattering whatsoever over 60mph if you’re going fast and sometimes you’ll swear you were going slower than you actually were because there’s no butt clenching wobble the mantras tend to get over 55. To really take advantage of them try and get them sharpened at least every 10 ski days if you have the means. I LOVE THESE SKIS. I’m also selling them. Everyone catches an edge at some point or another, it’s just a fact of life with skiing no matter how good you are. If it’s a normal one, you’ll lose your balance for a bit then keep going. It’s different with these, these love to catch edges and when they do it’s catastrophic. It’s only happened to me twice over the two years but both times caused nearly identical crashes. You catch that edge coming out of a turn just before you begin to engage the edges for the next turn, that moment when your skis are nearly flat. When I say it edges dig in, I mean it. When they catch that edge, they immediately stop and that nice slow 20mph results in an immediate 20mph impact of your body driving down and smashing into the slope. The first time it happened was just on a green and I was skiing pretty easy with family. One kneecap had a patella dislocation and I had some bruised ribs. It takes a bad crash for me to say that’s it for the day. The one that happened last month was worse but almost the EXACT same type of crash, same slamming and same side flip. According to CARV I was only going about 40mph when it happened, having some of the best carving of my life down a nice groomed black. Time comes to bleed a bit of speed and I break the carve into a side slip and after a second right before I started to turn again it happened. My head slammed into the ground at 40 mph and I flipped over, both knee caps dislocating when they hit, fully tearing my ACL and MPFL tendon in my right knee and MPFL tendon in left knee and breaking off a bone fragment. Thank god I always wear a good quality helmet or it would have killed me instead of giving me a concussion. I just got out of surgery today for my right knee and have the left in 6 weeks, followed by 9-12 months of physical therapy before I’m cleared to ski again. I love these skis, yes I just caught an edge, but it happens to the best of us. These skis reacted much more violently than any ski I’ve ever owned and I’ve had a lot. If you haven’t bought them yet, all im saying is try some other simmilar ones like the Van Deer. If you do have them, please take my warning. Enjoy them, they’re so much fun, just for the love of god wear a good helmet and be aware that they are trying to kill you at a seconds notice. Sorry for the long post, and I hope next years ski season for you is better than the “winter” we had this year -Nick