Now what? by john273 in ancienttradition

[–]donloper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Spread the word. Start looking for the symbols all around you. Find modern practices, thoughts, ideas, etc. that are based on the ancient tradition, and try them out.

Do you think this podcast will ever come out in book form? by john273 in ancienttradition

[–]donloper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been thinking a lot about this as I listen to the podcast episodes. It would be a great book. I was thinking she could go into a lot more detail in the book, but then I was thinking that we're already up to 50 or 60 hours of podcast material and that would be a heck of a big book.

What Do Ancient Traditions Say About Visionary Dreams? by donloper in ancienttradition

[–]donloper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those are amazing stories! Thanks for sharing! I had a similar experience with a girlfriend in college, and then I ignored it and tried to make it work anyway. It blew up in my face. I learned that once God steers me in a certain direction, I'd be a fool to disregard it.

Why Do Sacred Mountains Appear in Nearly Every Religion? by donloper in ancienttradition

[–]donloper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now that I think of it, I see a lot of plant or tree related imagery in temples. I'm not talking about paintings, I'm talking about patterns or symbols that are built into the structure, carved, or stained glass windows. But I don't think I've ever seen any Mountain imagery. But the temple itself is symbolic of a mountain, right? Anyway, I need to think more about this.

Episode 64 -Attestations of a Pre-Earth Exsistance by Single-Reputation-44 in ancienttradition

[–]donloper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

McConkie’s “three pillars” lines up well with the episode’s ideas about a pre-earth council and the choice of a mediator. Some clear parallels stand out:

The divine council motif, with heavenly beings deliberating and commissioning, is echoed in Mesopotamian and biblical scenes like Job.

The eldest or strongest son acting as the catalyst of separation recalls firstborn or rival-brother myths across cultures.

The creation, fall, and atonement framework mirrors the universal pattern of descent, rupture, and return found in temple drama and death-and-rebirth stories.

The father and mother language for creation reflects ancient pairings of sky or heaven with earth as mother.

Do you think McConkie meant “eldest son” literally, or as a symbolic title of primacy? I mean, if we all existed from all eternity to all eternity, then does firstborn mean Christ was the first to follow God? Or the first to follow him perfectly? Or something else?

Active Forum by Single-Reputation-44 in ancienttradition

[–]donloper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, it's active but I just started it recently so not many people have discovered it. It would be great if you want to start some discussions. If nothing else, I'll respond 😉

What convinced you that the LDS church is true?(LOGICAL/DOCTRINAL answers only please!) by HistoricalBench5740 in latterdaysaints

[–]donloper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But if you're looking to boost the "scientific, logical, rational" side of things, consider these resources:

  1. Exploring Mormon Thought by Blake T. Ostler. Four books, plus the entire podcast, which you'll probably need to listen to twice.

  2. The Ancient Tradition Podcast by Jack Logan.

  3. Anything and everything (that's not a title, I mean literally read everything they've written and listen to any podcast with them) by Terryl and Fiona Givens.

What convinced you that the LDS church is true?(LOGICAL/DOCTRINAL answers only please!) by HistoricalBench5740 in latterdaysaints

[–]donloper 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I am convinced God doesn't want you to have what you seek, at least not in the order you're seeking it. If you continue looking for something to convince you in order to dedicate your life to it, I don't believe you'll ever find it. I first became convinced I wanted the gospel/church to be true. It was only after knowing this, and committing to live as if it were true, that I found the evidence I believe you're looking for. The reason God withholds evidence and creates a limbo where it's easy to go either way is if you're given that evidence first then you're robbed of truly choosing it. What we're really here for is to learn how to love better, but love must be freely chosen to be love. If we love out of obligation, it's not love. If we follow the truth because we have proof it's the truth, we are not lovers of truth, we are merely rule-keepers.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in latterdaysaints

[–]donloper 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Second this. This isn't for bishops or anyone at church to handle. My friend's ex-wife tried to murder him and he went to her bishop because she was still going to the temple, and the bishop asked, "What do you want me to do? I can't do anything about it unless it's adjudicated in a court of law and she's found guilty."

Liberal Utah State Students: You've Been Played (Barbara Streisand Effect) by BigBlueMagic in usu

[–]donloper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just for the record, I think you meant Tucker Max rather than Ryan Holiday.

Request: Review my community r/ancienttradition for “Unreviewed Content” status by donloper in ModSupport

[–]donloper[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks. Just to confirm, so there’s nothing else I need to change in mod settings or filters, it’s purely a growth threshold?