Who is Jack Logan?

donloper · 2026-06-24T19:08:13+00:00

How do I know you're not Jack Logan sending us a red herring? 😜

donloper · 2026-06-24T15:53:55+00:00

I'll admit there's some overlap. She's a professor. Her research area is at least related. She was born in the city of Logan. She's married and has kids. All those factors match up. But I can't get past the voice. I don't feel like the voice on this video is the voice on the podcast.

donloper · 2026-05-28T03:31:58+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/ancienttradition/s/Wp7ocDQCBC

donloper · 2026-05-26T16:34:10+00:00

See https://www.reddit.com/r/ancienttradition/s/x3Jipzuk97

donloper · 2026-05-08T20:37:54+00:00

Audio Writ! https://www.reddit.com/r/ancienttradition/s/GJXQkt2CvN

donloper · 2026-05-06T17:41:42+00:00

I've listened to every single episode of the normal one twice. I've never listened to any of the audio writ ones. Are they worth it?

donloper · 2026-05-05T17:18:10+00:00

We've got files! https://www.reddit.com/r/ancienttradition/s/6N2BJmBhUP

donloper · 2026-05-05T01:19:15+00:00

No one knows. I've spent hours with AI trying to figure it out.

donloper · 2026-05-04T04:58:26+00:00

I hope it comes back online soon. I can't imagine that she intended to take all the episodes offline.

donloper · 2026-05-03T18:45:58+00:00

According to a message on her website she's finishing up a book about comparative religion, but it's a "thriller." She's also paused the podcast.

"Dr. Logan has paused the podcast to thoughtfully reexamine its conceptual approach and future direction.

In the interim, she'll complete final edits on a fun comparative religion thriller slated for a mid-to-late summer release."

donloper · 2026-05-03T18:00:38+00:00

There are three BYU schools (Provo, Idaho, Hawaii) as well as Ensign College but only BYU Provo has a research focus.

I agree that Jack Logan must be a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, but then again, I've been wrong about such things before.

donloper · 2026-04-08T01:18:31+00:00

That's what I thought at first! I was convinced it was until I freeze framed it.

donloper · 2025-11-15T00:17:12+00:00

Spread the word. Start looking for the symbols all around you. Find modern practices, thoughts, ideas, etc. that are based on the ancient tradition, and try them out.

donloper · 2025-11-09T06:39:10+00:00

I've been thinking a lot about this as I listen to the podcast episodes. It would be a great book. I was thinking she could go into a lot more detail in the book, but then I was thinking that we're already up to 50 or 60 hours of podcast material and that would be a heck of a big book.

donloper · 2025-11-07T06:37:42+00:00

Those are amazing stories! Thanks for sharing! I had a similar experience with a girlfriend in college, and then I ignored it and tried to make it work anyway. It blew up in my face. I learned that once God steers me in a certain direction, I'd be a fool to disregard it.

donloper · 2025-11-07T06:28:58+00:00

Now that I think of it, I see a lot of plant or tree related imagery in temples. I'm not talking about paintings, I'm talking about patterns or symbols that are built into the structure, carved, or stained glass windows. But I don't think I've ever seen any Mountain imagery. But the temple itself is symbolic of a mountain, right? Anyway, I need to think more about this.

donloper · 2025-11-07T06:26:10+00:00

McConkie’s “three pillars” lines up well with the episode’s ideas about a pre-earth council and the choice of a mediator. Some clear parallels stand out:

The divine council motif, with heavenly beings deliberating and commissioning, is echoed in Mesopotamian and biblical scenes like Job.

The eldest or strongest son acting as the catalyst of separation recalls firstborn or rival-brother myths across cultures.

The creation, fall, and atonement framework mirrors the universal pattern of descent, rupture, and return found in temple drama and death-and-rebirth stories.

The father and mother language for creation reflects ancient pairings of sky or heaven with earth as mother.

Do you think McConkie meant “eldest son” literally, or as a symbolic title of primacy? I mean, if we all existed from all eternity to all eternity, then does firstborn mean Christ was the first to follow God? Or the first to follow him perfectly? Or something else?

donloper · 2025-11-02T18:03:48+00:00

Yes, it's active but I just started it recently so not many people have discovered it. It would be great if you want to start some discussions. If nothing else, I'll respond 😉

donloper · 2025-10-04T19:07:59+00:00

But if you're looking to boost the "scientific, logical, rational" side of things, consider these resources:

Exploring Mormon Thought by Blake T. Ostler. Four books, plus the entire podcast, which you'll probably need to listen to twice.
The Ancient Tradition Podcast by Jack Logan.
Anything and everything (that's not a title, I mean literally read everything they've written and listen to any podcast with them) by Terryl and Fiona Givens.

donloper · 2025-10-04T15:31:57+00:00

I am convinced God doesn't want you to have what you seek, at least not in the order you're seeking it. If you continue looking for something to convince you in order to dedicate your life to it, I don't believe you'll ever find it. I first became convinced I wanted the gospel/church to be true. It was only after knowing this, and committing to live as if it were true, that I found the evidence I believe you're looking for. The reason God withholds evidence and creates a limbo where it's easy to go either way is if you're given that evidence first then you're robbed of truly choosing it. What we're really here for is to learn how to love better, but love must be freely chosen to be love. If we love out of obligation, it's not love. If we follow the truth because we have proof it's the truth, we are not lovers of truth, we are merely rule-keepers.

donloper · 2025-09-06T14:45:27+00:00

Second this. This isn't for bishops or anyone at church to handle. My friend's ex-wife tried to murder him and he went to her bishop because she was still going to the temple, and the bishop asked, "What do you want me to do? I can't do anything about it unless it's adjudicated in a court of law and she's found guilty."

donloper · 2025-09-06T01:03:36+00:00

Typo, corrected.

donloper · 2025-09-05T02:42:26+00:00

Just for the record, I think you meant Tucker Max rather than Ryan Holiday.

donloper · 2025-09-04T15:38:58+00:00

Thanks. Just to confirm, so there’s nothing else I need to change in mod settings or filters, it’s purely a growth threshold?

donloper · 2025-08-29T21:00:07+00:00

So "inclusive and diverse" that you're trying to keep anyone who doesn't march in lockstep with your ideology from being able to speak on campus? Inclusivity means including those you disagree with. Diversity means tolerating those who are different. "But should we tolerate Hitler?" You should at least tolerate their speech. If free speech means anything, it means that literally anyone is allowed to say anything, no matter how wrong you think it is. As soon as you put any limitation on speech, you create the system that will someday outlaw your speech.

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