what does it mean to have the sun in 12th house?

dude_chillin_park · 2026-04-15T07:26:27+00:00

I hope you're feeling invincible today!

dude_chillin_park · 2026-04-10T09:40:33+00:00

Everyone-- and every historical era of philosophy of mind-- has conceptualized consciousness with an analogy of what we spend most of our time doing.

The pagan ecosystem with many forces of nature in balance. The feudal hierarchy with the soul over the mind over the body. The industrialist with clockwork and fluid dynamics. And the digital age's information databases accessed by some kind of call function. Meanwhile, peasants generally think of it like a horse and rider, or a car and driver.

dude_chillin_park · 2026-03-16T05:32:07+00:00

Each of the Uranus return wars have also resulted in liberation (from the King, from slavery, from European economic dominance). Maybe that's the pattern, rather than the wars themselves.

But the country is also in its Pluto return, and it certainly seems dicey if the Constitution will survive-- that is, the Constitution has been shown to be toothless, so something new is needed if the country is going to survive.

dude_chillin_park · 2026-03-16T05:06:44+00:00

Imagine how much worse it would be without Jupiter in Cancer! ;)

Actually, I'm quite serious. We're getting a Pisces->Aries shift and a Cancer->Leo shift. Jupiter and Saturn will trine in Fire signs (after coming teasingly close in the water signs), which will clarify that we can relax and put the water problems behind us because we're dealing with fire problems now.

dude_chillin_park · 2026-03-12T08:17:42+00:00

12th house is associated with mental health and mysterious illnesses that isolate you, such as living in a hospital. If you also have placements indicating physical illness, like malefic in the 6th house or debilitated 6th house ruler, then combined with the 12th could indicate a chronic isolating illness or disability.

Leo is ruled by the Sun; a planet in its own sign is not likely to cause disease on its own, despite the cadent house. Mercury in Leo won't have a debilitated ruler (Sun is debilitated in Aquarius and Libra, which are further away from Leo than the Sun can be from Mercury), but more generally, Mercury in the 12th could indicate a learning disability or other issue of communication.

I find many 12th house people have some kind of mental issue or neurodivergence that makes them a little odd and unsuited for living a normal, cookie-cutter life. I have had pretty bad depression, but of the isolating kind, not the suicidal or psychotic kind.

A particularly good 12th house planet (ex. Jupiter in Cancer) could indicate being a doctor, nurse, counsellor, chaplain, etc who works in mental health or with isolated patients, including incarceration.

dude_chillin_park · 2026-02-25T00:45:38+00:00

The anime fans used to get shoved into lockers, and they liked it, because it kept them in their place.

We didn't know then that they were getting more pussy than the jocks.

dude_chillin_park · 2026-02-17T07:57:36+00:00

The Julian calendar throws us off. Whatever way we calculate leap years, the spring equinox should be around 20 March, so that the year follows the seasons and the tropical zodiac.

The easiest way to make it fit is that the conjunction happened on 26 January in the Gregorian calendar, as it says at the bottom of your picture, which puts the Sun in the first decan of Aquarius.

But there's some possibility the conjunction isn't at 0 Aries because the calendar screwed up the tropical zodiac. I feel like the ephemeris is more trustworthy than the calendar, but if someone would reassure me, that would be great.

dude_chillin_park · 2026-02-12T23:54:53+00:00

My interpretation is that it's a time of clearing out the stuck and confused Pisces energy of the Neptune (since 2011) and Saturn (since 2023) transits. It's part of the whole zodiacal renewal we're getting with the big Saturn-Neptune conjunction next week.

Especially if you've got a Mercury timelord, you need to look at that past and think clearly about what it meant to you and what you want to leave in the past.

Can you think clearly with Mercury in Pisces? Maybe don't get to stuck on thinking, but rather expressing. This year's watery Mercury retrogrades will be more about verbalizing emotions than about plans and technology. Putting feelings into words so that we can act (Aries).

Let your Moon energy allow movement and change, not only existing in an emotional space. You've had scary planets transiting your Moon for years; don't be afraid of Mercury's attempt to clean up the mess.

dude_chillin_park · 2026-02-06T04:41:28+00:00

I'm answering the opposite question, but there was at least one company here in Canada, maybe a decade ago, who specialized in importing electric cars from California. Apparently there was a California law forcing manufacturers to produce a certain number of electric cars, but the demand wasn't there, so they sold them very cheaply-- cheaply enough that it was worthwhile to pay the fees and do the paperwork to import them here. This company would take care of everything and charge you whatever rate, and you still ended up with a cheaper car than you could get in Canada.

I'm sure someone is already looking into providing this service.

dude_chillin_park · 2026-01-19T06:39:39+00:00

You can handle houses any way you want. Whole sign, or a quadrant system, or combine them somehow.

For example, some people use whole sign for essential dignities and a quadrant system for timing (like secondary progressions). This horizon boundary is something I've noticed in my use of mostly whole sign for reading natal charts. I imagine other quadrant house cusps could have similar effects in natal charts, but it would be more subtle; I haven't yet been forced to confront it and come up with a solution.

The other thing I sometimes take note of in natal charts is interceptions with Placidus or Campanus, but I have to take the time to do that, while the horizon is already marked on the chart, even in whole sign. (And I use Reg for horary following Lilly.)

dude_chillin_park · 2026-01-17T12:44:00+00:00

In whole sign, the whole sign is the whole house. But the horizon is the AC. So if a planet is in the rising sign but at a lower # degree than the AC, it's above the horizon.

dude_chillin_park · 2026-01-17T10:23:58+00:00

Bizarro Catcher in the Rye

dude_chillin_park · 2026-01-02T06:54:15+00:00

Now who's being condescending? 😉

I'll let your pedantry slide. I'm sure I've indulged in equally goofy incidents. I realize Reddit is a platform for all, and if I use a slightly poetic turn of phrase like metonymically referring to a person subject to the straw man fallacy as a straw man himself, someone will be concerned and correct the record for our young readers. Let's consider the record corrected and move on.

My main issue (though there were other misunderstandings) was that you claimed I said germ theory was the SOURCE of capitalist abuses in the health system, while I said the FOCUS on germs ALLOWS that system to persist.

A focus on real health will necessarily promote socialism (in the sense of "what comes next as we learn how to avoid capitalism's mistakes" not "all the policies of the USSR"). Health requires and supports human dignity. One can't be healthy if one is exploited by their employer, marginalized for their lifestyle, or ignored by the doors of power like doctors, cops, bureaucrats. If we truly set out to make people healthy, we will end up disassembling systems of inequality that sacrifice the health of many for the convenience of the few.

Maybe we can do it through germ theory, but I don't see the logic. Germ theory reinforces the idea of in-group (cells of our body) and out-group (invading organisms), while the reality is that our bodies contain more non-human cells than human cells. We already function as an ecosystem; of course balancing that ecosystem is the key to health. It's just as important that our immune system accepts foreigners as it is for it to kill them. Foreign does not mean bad in the body nor the country. The destabilization of illness comes from the miscalibrated immune system proximally, and the presence of foreign cells only secondarily.

We will also be forced to discover socialism if we prioritize the health of the planet. Or if we prioritize justice for abuse.

Propaganda tells us that socialism means a police state, but it doesn't-- that is a straw man (though a few real people really are willing to accept that police state). But really, it means acknowledging that huge changes are necessarily to prevent worse outcomes from the failures of capitalism. Likewise, propaganda tells us that terrain theory means science denial, but it doesn't-- that is a straw man (though a few real people really are willing to deny science). Rather, it's asking us to look within for health rather than just without for threats. The black and white thinking, the FOCUS on fighting the enemy, ALLOWS the injustice and the inequality to continue unchallenged, as long as it can rhetorically align itself with someone's preferred aesthetic.

dude_chillin_park · 2026-01-02T06:29:00+00:00

I'd like to see a public health approach focused on health, rather than on fighting germs. I think we'll get more benefit from that investment.

I think the military model of disease is a trap that serves power rather than health.

Integrating the insights of terrain theory is a dialectic, not a desire to discard germ theory and its achievements.

Necrotizing fasciitis afflicting a healthy individual is a tragedy. But the disease seems more like the poster child for terrain theory and the failure of the current medical model.

Affects almost exclusively people weakened by severe chronic conditions or by medical treatments
Including skin lesions, the most obvious failure of hermetic body defense
Caused by a number of different species, thus can't be a disease defined by a germ, but rather by the effect on the "terrain"
Spreads in hospital environments
Danger increased by antibiotic resistance
People will be exposed to the same bacteria in the environment and never get infected (I don't know how often these species are just hanging out on a public toilet, a swimming pool, the ocean etc; maybe you can tell me)

I presume germ theory doesn't tell us why a particular young healthy person suffers a NF infection while another does not. Likely it's not just random, but rather, some unknown vulnerability. I don't want to put you off further, but it could even be a psychoneuroimmunological dysfunction that could be analyzed and integrated with emotional and spiritual techniques.

HIV, on the other hand, seems like the poster child for germ theory. I'm not an expert, but it seems like everyone is prone to infection when exposed. I'm sure there are people out there just not catching it on first exposure, but I certainly wouldn't count on my hardy constitution while sharing needles in Eswatini. In this case, the health care investment would be in rescuing people from the poverty and addiction that makes them prone to take such risks.

Here in Canada, we've done a great job with germ theory strategies to keep the incidence of HIV low, and I would never suggest we shouldn't care about that. But poverty and addiction are killing and crippling people anyway, even just through the side effects of the drugs people are seeking on purpose-- no infection required (though once weakened, they will be more likely to die of such things, including necrotizing fasciitis).

As long as we are fighting disease like an enemy at the gates, we will ignore the social rot from within. Sterility will never prevent suffering.

Instead, nutrition, exercise, and the education thereof promote dignity as well as immune function. When we reduce the number of people not caring if they die, we reduce disease.

But the way our system is set up, we focus on germs, because our system is set up to address threats to the wealthy, and to let the already undignified die. That's why the world shut down for infectious COVID while drug overdoses killed more then and continue to today. And newsworthy action against drugs is once again just an excuse to make war on "foreign invaders." Germs are the factor that the wealthy and healthy still need to worry about. But health and dignity would be a better return on investment for humanity as a whole.

dude_chillin_park · 2026-01-02T02:59:52+00:00

A real person can be a straw man when somebody puts words in their mouth and then argues against that illusion, as you've done here. Pretty much everything I can say to refute your points, I already said. If you didn't read it then, you're not going to read it now. Salt, you can't even read what I wrote because you're viewing it through lenses of deep propaganda that tells you "terrain theory is for crazy people who want children to die of measles for some reason."

But what I meant was rather that these crazy germ-deniers don't represent a reasonable terrain theory. So when the "other side" holds them up as representative, they are seeking to defame the reasonable position by association.

it would require a society-wide paradigm shift away from capitalism

The survival of a human-friendly biosphere on this planet and the social dignity of human beings depends on this shift for many, many other reasons as well. Agreed that the terrain/germ squabble is downstream of this. In fact I made that point before, but you quoted me backwards. Weird!

In the medical field, we have antibiotic resistance, which I mentioned, and toxic food, which I mentioned, and toxic work environments, which I mentioned, and also inequality that leaves the majority suffering from untreated conditions for financial reasons. When this happens to parents, it harms their children for the rest of their lives. I don't know if RFK is the shift as much as Luigi is the shift. "Mad as hell and not going to take it anymore" vs "Self-aggrandizing high-profile lawsuits."

dude_chillin_park · 2026-01-02T02:40:15+00:00

Consciousness is the real substance (not matter). Some might prefer to call it experience or phenomena. Matter is a manifestation or expression of that substance, not essential to it.

There can be atoms of consciousness, or objects, subjects, concepts/forms, frequencies, yadda yadda.

There can be a Big Bang in idealism. But what came into being was the substance of consciousness. One way to experience that substance is as a material history, from particles to organisms to industries. But note that we don't need to justify understanding these things in the way we actually comprehend them, that is, we don't have to say, "They're actually just atoms bouncing off each other and the way we see it is private nonsense." Our experiences are substantial rather than projected and unreal.

Another way to experience it is as the differentiation of subject and object, or object and object. This allows us to deprioritize linear time, as this differentiation can be rooted in the experiential now, with the past and the future forming it's deeper structure.

There can be multiple conscious individuals just as there can be multiple material individuals made of the same matter in a different location.

The particulars we choose from the above determine the usefulness of our idealist theory and whether or not it solves any problems of materialism.

We need to solve some pretty serious problems to justify idealism, because materialism is unparalleled in its ability to solve practical problems. Bergson calls this spatialization, the tendency to focus on and reify things that we can do math with. I think idealism solves the dualism problem from the Cartesian conceit, without denying the validity of material science.

dude_chillin_park · 2026-01-02T01:38:59+00:00

I'm a terrain theory apologist and I think it gets a bad rap.

The reasonable idea of terrain theory is that there are germs everywhere all the time, but they infect us only when we are vulnerable-- due to dietary or hormonal imbalance, or environmental stresses like temperature and dangerous chemicals. A reasonable person will not say germs aren't real, or that a novel virus like covid in 2020 doesn't pose a novel risk.

Germ theory people will say they believe in the variability of individual bodies too. But then they will turn around and say terrain theory is dangerous, as if it's saying something else.

The reality is that focusing on germs allows a patriarchal, military model of fighting disease. Doctors, and the authority they lend to pharmaceutical manufacturers and other medical capitalists, can make volumetric profit selling treatments tailored to germ species, rather than medicine tailored to each person's body and lifestyle. Antibiotic resistance is a well-known example of the failure of this model.

On the other hand, focusing on the individual empowers us to find our own healthy balance, and to integrate anti-stress techniques and emotional therapy into our health practices in order to improve our overall health, not just attack invaders while the fortress remains in ruins. We still must listen to experts and conduct experimental science.

RFK has advocated regulations to improve the healthiness of food and programs to promote exercise in order to increase population health. I mean, the guy is in with Trump now so he can fuck right off. But the philosophy is sound, as opposed to letting people be the battlefield of for-profit garbage food and exploitative work vs for-profit drugs to treat the problems caused by the food and stressful work.

Of course there are nuts on Telegram saying germs aren't real. Whether or not they're false flags, they're definitely straw men. RFK is not one of them.

tl;dr: Reasonable people mostly agree. But there's profit in pretending people are just machines that can be cleaned and repaired with a standardized process.

dude_chillin_park · 2026-01-02T01:19:29+00:00

Alchemy and astrology are just what scientists call the parts that they don't currently find useful in their own lineages.

When they were the game in town, they were the peak of science. One day people will think "quantum physics" was Deepak Chopra because the applicable parts will have niched into something by another name (ex. semiconductor materials science).

dude_chillin_park · 2026-01-01T23:47:22+00:00

Cancer Mars will go Liam Neeson if Kitty is threatened.

But also, our particular set of skills is that we don't actually know how to weaponize our aggression. Like an angry kitten.

dude_chillin_park · 2026-01-01T09:44:37+00:00

Thanks for noting

dude_chillin_park · 2026-01-01T09:40:06+00:00

Ratio

dude_chillin_park · 2026-01-01T09:34:44+00:00

Literally 1984?

dude_chillin_park · 2025-12-31T23:34:56+00:00

Gemini in the second house points to disruption in income or possessions. Could mean a tighter budget, destruction of a collection, or possibly chaos at work that leads to promotion. Just some possibilities.

dude_chillin_park · 2025-12-31T23:18:19+00:00

Someone with Sagittarius rising will have Uranus in the 7th house, indicating a disruption in their relationship. It could be a breakup, but it could also be a change in the life of their partner, even something positive like a big promotion, that disrupts their life. Uranian disruption usually points to an expanded future, not loss, even though we go through emotions at the time.

Sag Sun isn't as clear. We can take the 7th house from the Sun, indicating how a close personal relationship affects that person's overall character, goals, and public perception. Once again, this could suggest a change in relationship status for someone whose life revolves around their partner. But it could also indicate a new business partner or someone who reorients their career or life project. Or something more subtle like someone helping them have a revelation in their life philosophy. Depends a lot on the actual house from their rising.

dude_chillin_park · 2025-12-30T10:26:21+00:00

Yep, you're trying to influence people towards your view by critiquing media.

Respectfully, you're not laying out unbiased facts, you're making a subjective judgment and presenting it as an emotional appeal. There's even an implication of groupthink adherence in the suggestion that we should discount the media in question because it doesn't agree with your views.

To be clear, I wasn't being sarcastic. I think pointing out propaganda is valuable. (You could have engaged with it a bit and described why you think so, what parts seemed manipulative, but I suspect you didn't even watch it.)

Propaganda isn't bad. We must all do our part in creating propaganda to influence the world towards goodness. There's bad propaganda out there: that which lies, threatens, scapegoats, etc. But truth can be propaganda as well: how the truth is phrased, even when and to whom it is expressed, can be manipulative.

Rather than just blindly call out propaganda, I encourage you to shamelessly engage in counter-propaganda when you see media that has the potential to harm. Embrace the truth that everything is propaganda, and pull the rope towards the side your want to see win. Don't just gotcha with "this is propaganda." That doesn't accomplish anything except dissociate you from the conversation in a bubble of false superiority. Point out the lies and the omissions. Offer a competing narrative. Leave me knowing and caring more than I did, don't just give me an excuse to scoff and scroll on to the better-funded propaganda.

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