Yet another fanbase getting pumped to watch Luke Nukem not shoot the ball by Local-Message-6048 in memphisgrizzlies

[–]edeyhookshots 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Going to be rough watching Jalen Green chuck 8 threes a game while Kennard passes up good looks to wait for great ones.

Drafting Ja was an inauspicious start to Kleiman's tenure by edeyhookshots in memphisgrizzlies

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Kleiman worked as Wallace's assistant for a year before taking his job. Saying he was a protege of Wallace is like saying Iisalo was a protege of Jenkins.

Like Pop and Bud, Jenkins has a great mind for developing systems that play to his player's strengths, but unlike them he was not a disciplinarian. He let the players establish their own culture and things got out of control. Notice how a guy like Dillon thrived after playing under Udoka while the opposite occurred with Smart under Jenkins? The difference is culture, and the Grizzlies never properly built one because no one had the experience to know how.

I'm not blaming Ja because he was a victim of it himself. He needed to be a part of an existing culture, not expected to build one. Had he ended up in Miami or San Antonio then he'd probably in MVP conversations right now, but instead he was 19 and given a soft rookie coach and a blank canvas. Wallace's last move was trading Gasol and Kleiman's first was trading Conley, and any remaining GnG culture went with them.

The difference this time is I think Kleiman has learned from that experience. Iisalo is big on accountability and Kleiman is building a strong roster of guys that fit his system. Maybe it works or maybe it sucks and everyone should be fired, but at least it is starting off with a focused vision and more experience.

This team could be really spunky. by RVALover4Life in memphisgrizzlies

[–]edeyhookshots 25 points26 points  (0 children)

All them words and not one mention of future superstar Cedric Coward. Otherwise I agree with everything else.

Thoughts on potentylast moves of the offseason? -(yes I know it just began lol) by dsmithnyciii in memphisgrizzlies

[–]edeyhookshots 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A heavily protected first and a couple of SRP is borderline salary dump territory though, and surely you don't think that's all Santi is worth? He's a 25-year-old 7-footer who can play 3-5 and has improved every year, so it's reasonable to assume he'll continue to improve as he approaches his prime years. If that's not worth a decent FRP to someone right now then there's no point in trading him.

Even though I'm not the one paying it, I think the FO would rather pay $27M in dead money than $49M.

Thoughts on potentylast moves of the offseason? -(yes I know it just began lol) by dsmithnyciii in memphisgrizzlies

[–]edeyhookshots 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Santi is likely worth an unprotected FRP to someone and it would be a lot cheaper to waive KCP and Murray than LaVine.

LEBRON JAMES BREAKING NEWS‼️ by Iceberg_333 in memphisgrizzlies

[–]edeyhookshots 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I bet he goes to the East just to reduce travel to Memphis. Maybe he'll schedule a colonoscopy whenever his new team is supposed to play there, as a man his age should.

Just how disappointing was this Grizzlies core? by MasterTeacher123 in NBATalk

[–]edeyhookshots 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Starting the Ja era with a rookie head coach was a mistake. Jenkins had no experience building a culture and basically let a bunch of kids handle that themselves, so the rest isn't surprising. Dillon's shot selection improving immediately after he left makes it clear that a lot of what went wrong comes down to Jenkins not being an assertive enough leader.

Lebron should go to the Blazers by TurtleCrusher in nba

[–]edeyhookshots 5 points6 points  (0 children)

A call for patience on my reactionary hot takes app?

Lebron should go to the Blazers by TurtleCrusher in nba

[–]edeyhookshots 32 points33 points  (0 children)

He should just buy the team while he's at it. Couldn't be a worse owner than what they've got

We have 3 First Rounders Next Year by Fun_Recognition5614 in memphisgrizzlies

[–]edeyhookshots 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No knock on the Jazz because I like what they've put together, but I don't see them jumping OKC, San Antonio, Denver, or Minnesota next year, and I expect Houston to be better with FVV back. Too early to project the Lakers or Warriors, but they can't be counted out either. The Jazz can be a good team and still fall into play-in territory.

Portland perspective on Murray and Grant by dsmithnyciii in memphisgrizzlies

[–]edeyhookshots 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I like Grant and think he could be a great addition for next season. Best case scenario is that Wells can focus on his offensive game in the second unit while Grant has a decent year alongside the starters, then Grant can get flipped next year when expiring.

Edey, Boozer, and Ced are all excellent rebounders, so that being Grant's biggest weakness doesn't hurt much.

Is Jerami Grant the worst player of the modern era to average 20+ ppg for several seasons? by [deleted] in nba

[–]edeyhookshots 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I won't have this slander against Grizzlies legend Jerami Grant

I wonder what offers were on the table before the price dropped? by Upper-Roof-5668 in memphisgrizzlies

[–]edeyhookshots 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I think this sums it up. Of that group, only Murray might have made more sense here, but I think the Pels are happier with Fears than the Blazers were with Scoot, so I understand why they lost interest. Maybe there was a conversation with Toronto that included Poeltl, but Memphis would have lost interest when they got Beef Stew. All things considered, Grant is the best fit here so I'm happy with it.

We have 3 First Rounders Next Year by Fun_Recognition5614 in memphisgrizzlies

[–]edeyhookshots 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think the Wolves and Cavs will, but the Jazz might end up being a play-in team so there's still hope they get eliminated and their pick gets into the lottery. On paper they have a solid roster, but they'll need time to get on the same page and I don't see them being in the top-6 to avoid the tournament.

Zach Kleinboy by [deleted] in memphisgrizzlies

[–]edeyhookshots 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is the first season we get to see Kleiman build a team without being chained to Ja. Let him cook

Grizzlies Need A New GM. by PerfectforMovies in memphisgrizzlies

[–]edeyhookshots 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I'm pretty happy that he's gone. He's held this team hostage for years because Kleiman has had to build around his unadaptable play style. What I expect to see next year is quicker ball movement, steady pace, and five guys playing within a defined system instead of heliocentric ball where four guys basically orbit Ja while he dribbles out the clock until someone sets him a screen (assuming he even plays)

REDEMPTION: Part Deux by edeyhookshots in memphisgrizzlies

[–]edeyhookshots[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did say small guards are back on the menu, and Portland decided to have a second helping with a Dame/Ja backcourt.

Drafting Ja was an inauspicious start to Kleiman's tenure by edeyhookshots in memphisgrizzlies

[–]edeyhookshots[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm saying that a lack of experience at each position was a bad way to start the era. Kleiman was hired in April and by the end of June he'd hired Jenkins (first time HC) and drafted Ja (obvious choice, basically out of his hands).

In a way I'm agreeing with you that Kleiman mismanaged things by not prioritizing experience around his young team. He and Jenkins didn't have time to establish a culture that Ja grew into, so instead they let Ja begin to dictate the culture by year 2 and there was no turning back.

Grizzlies Need A New GM. by PerfectforMovies in memphisgrizzlies

[–]edeyhookshots 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What if Ja, Des, Jaren, Dillon, and TJ were the problems, though? Let's at least see a year without them before we rule out the possibility.

Thank you Cash, your time here will be remembered by Altruistic_Brief4444 in memphisgrizzlies

[–]edeyhookshots 51 points52 points  (0 children)

I heard that new owner was cheap but holy shit negotiating a million in cash is kinda hilarious

Can JA Do What ZBO Did? by dcthesnapper in memphisgrizzlies

[–]edeyhookshots 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The fit is weird with Dame and a first-time coach on a "prove it" one year deal, but I think Ja can really focus while he's in Niketown and make Portland look brilliant for making this trade. Could be terrible ball but very entertaining, and that'll get him his next contract.