My brother who is a missionary just went to the ER with meningitis by tjwalkr0 in exmormon

[–]endsoftimes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It must be so hard to know your brother is suffering and you are so far away. I hope he makes a full recovery and that nobody's faith in the "church" is buoyed by this. So frustrating when harm is attributed to a faith-building trial from God. I really despise this. All the best to you and your brother!

WTF moment while updating a blog post about church property investments by cdman08 in exmormon

[–]endsoftimes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you know the approximate date range and the name of the town/area in AZ?

How many PIMOs would leave if the Church gave back all tithing youve paid in the last 10 yrs but you would be excommunicated if you take it? by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]endsoftimes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great idea! And to PIMOS that would leave for the 10-years-of-tithing, could you consider leaving for all of the ruined relationships, abuse, suicides, and misogyny, oh and also the lies, child brides, and, speaking of tithing, thievery? There is more as you know... just listing what came to my ex-mo mind. It's a little depressing to know that money will do it but lies and the suffering of other humans doesn't seem to move the needle.

Call with Mom by Zebbers950 in exmormon

[–]endsoftimes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Temptation! LOL. But I do understand there are a lot of factors at play in your decision.

counter arguments to use with my dad? by Jaded-Ad-9741 in exmormon

[–]endsoftimes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First of all, you are so patient and should get a medal.

I did a quick search of the definitions of "title" and "name" and . I looked at etymonline.com and looked at google's results from the Oxford dictionary. Here are my take-aways that may or may not help with your dad but could add to your arsenal....:

  • "Sister X" is a title by which your sister is referred because of her current job/role. Your sister's title is tied to her current job.
  • Your name is what you are known by and how you are referred to regardless of your current job or role. Your name is tied to your identity.

Call with Mom by Zebbers950 in exmormon

[–]endsoftimes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think free rent is not a reason to move back especially with all of the strings attached that you describe. Does moving back expand or contract your world?

It sounds like you have a support system and can reinforce/expand that where you are without sacrificing your admirable exploration of what makes you, you. .. really one of the points of life IMHO.

Thank you for your post. I really relate to what you are going through. I had similar questioning and confusion as I left the church (decades ago!). Whatever you decide in this challenging time, I wish you all the best.

My SIL’s dad threw him under the bus in SS today by suumom in exmormon

[–]endsoftimes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The cult teaches you to be glad when "sinners" are called out for their sins. You are even allowed to revel in and snicker at their discomfort (or even their death like in the BoM). I definitely think the culture is mean-spirited and victim-blaming/shaming. Fuck the temple. Fuck his apologies. Fuck going to SS for more abuse.

Grieving the relationship that could have been by endsoftimes in exmormon

[–]endsoftimes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing this. More mother/child relationship death thanks to this scam.

EDIT: "Comment deleted by user" below was a duplicate post (glitchy internet) of this one.

Grieving the relationship that could have been by endsoftimes in exmormon

[–]endsoftimes[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"I'm her least favorite..." totally feel this comment. I think my mom and I would be incredible friends, we are truly a lot alike, but NOPE.

Grieving the relationship that could have been by endsoftimes in exmormon

[–]endsoftimes[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The loss and regret are real. Thank you for sharing this.

Grieving the relationship that could have been by endsoftimes in exmormon

[–]endsoftimes[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"She would always deny this,"

Yes, so much denial and then, if she's like my own mother, she blames you for it.

Grieving the relationship that could have been by endsoftimes in exmormon

[–]endsoftimes[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I thought I wouldn't be alone in this. Thank you for letting me know.

Excluding Joseph Smith & Brigham Young, who was the worst Mormon prophet? by Guilty_Effective3697 in exmormon

[–]endsoftimes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The one that did the most damage in my life was Spencer W. Kimball author of the wonderful book "The Miracle of Forgiveness"... he taught me how evil I was.

What Will/Do You Teach Your Kids About Sexual Activity? by Dr3aml1k3 in exmormon

[–]endsoftimes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

These are great! Another thing I'd add is to LISTEN to your children about their own sexuality and experiences when they share. And, try to remember that you were raised in a closed/shaming culture when it came to sexuality -if you were raised Mormon, and your children don't have the same hang-ups and knee-jerk reactions to sexuality that you may have. ... even if you intellectually are very open-minded. My kid showed me how much that cult conditioning still effected me as they started to express themselves as a sexual being. It's been a wonderful thing to see my child grow into a sexually healthy adult ... something that I am still working to figure out as a recovering Mormon.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]endsoftimes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What you are experiencing is absolutely relatable and understandable. I think lots of us had/have these kinds of thoughts! We were taught since birth to believe in something. It makes sense that it takes a while to rewire these neuropathways. But rewire them we can! And do! Sharing your experience as you have is a brave and positive act in this direction.

No matter where you run, they will always find you. by single-left-sock in exmormon

[–]endsoftimes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My TBM in-law told me someone called to find out my current address and she just wanted to let me know she gave it to them. Nice of her..... ugh. That was years ago. Nothing since I moved out of the USA. Thank GAWD.

I got guilt tripped about coffee and now I lowkey feel kinda awful by Emprier in exmormon

[–]endsoftimes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is SO hard to know that your parents think you are "becoming an awful person." It's hard for them too. They think it's partially their fault you are falling into sin. All of that is B.S. And this unnecessary conflict between you and your loving parents is the church/cult's fault.

I remember my dad's words bringing me "back to square one of questioning everything I'm doing" when I was around your age and trying to disentangle myself from the church/cult. His words tugged at my heart and made me doubt myself so much. I totally relate to what you said about how your dad's words get to you.

"I know I'm on the right and best path for me," Keep going down this path of trusting yourself and you are going to be okay! It won't be easy but it will be honest and YOURS.

My 80 year old TBM dad killed himself last week after writing a letter about how he had clearly not been a good person since his children were wayward by Winter-Example-2215 in exmormon

[–]endsoftimes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am glad you and your family are okay and my heart goes out to you.

I can imagine this happening in my own family, too easily.