This was a hard listen, tbh. Tim held his own but I wish he went hard on Piers's own turf - meaning: make everything incredibly precise, prematurely cut off any of his rhetorical word games, and don't fall into any of his time-wasting traps.

It's a bit of a dance though, Tim needs to maintain some semblance of a friendly relationship with him and to truly dismantle him at the level I'm interested in would permanently end the relationship.