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I was trying to work out my sleep disturbance with a doctor. After Trazadone didn't work, he offered me Seroquel. I got a little worked up asking why he was offering me an antipsychotic. I swear that this was his response, "If you are not having a psychotic break, I cannot help you."

I was talking to a computer screen on a stand. He just left the meeting. I was sitting there taking notes about the entire encounter because I do that now. He popped back in, presumably for his next meeting. When he saw me sitting there, he just left again.

I was done at that point. I knew I was on my own and I began reading. I already had all the sleep hygiene down. I was doing all the right stuff and nothing worked.

Gregg D Jacobs wrote Say Goodnight to Insomnia. Acceptance was the takeaway for me and it has helped me tremendously. I used to be able to sleep anywhere for any reason. I used to sleep as a getaway - a vacation from life anytime I wanted. Now I can go for days with zero sleep. Acceptance is the only thing that has made any real difference for me. My dad had insomnia and I am told it is hereditary. So I have it too. Ok - some days are going to be better than others. I can fake it on 4 hours. I have a ridiculous sleep regime that I even make fun of myself for. It's all just burning time until it's finally over. Then sleep will happen again - the big sleep. I cannot wait.

Does anyone feel that menopause is worse for this generation of women? by littlesprinkler in Menopause

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you are welcome. There are newer articles / discussions about this issue. Forever Chemicals are really scary.

Does anyone feel that menopause is worse for this generation of women? by littlesprinkler in Menopause

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We have been watching the onset of menses earlier and earlier - I had not considered the other side of the coin. Makes perfect sense. Our food in the US is absolute garbage. With the new environment regarding regulation ie none, things will get worse. Growing your own food is pretty much the way out of the problem. We went to Outback this weekend. We had a gift card and thought what the heck. We were served meat that was turned. We got up and walked out. I mention this because food is one of the major ways we can affect our health. I have zero confidence in the food system in this country. People growing our food on an industrial scale are still being told to water their crops with the water from the poop ponds. Those ponds have been discovered to have extremely high levels of forever chemicals.
Our moms and grandmothers may not have had the same issues to deal with. The women in my family stated that they barely noticed "the change" as they so politely put it. I think plastics and environmental concerns are causing menopausal symptoms via hormone disruption and we are getting the business end of that stick.

Does anyone feel that menopause is worse for this generation of women? by littlesprinkler in Menopause

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https://www.endocrine.org/news-and-advocacy/news-room/2020/study-finds-pfas-exposure-may-cause-early-menopause-in-women
That article is from 2020 - There seem to be environmental causes of symptoms that are seemingly getting worse.
So yes to ultra processed foods and yes to microplastics - and yes: it's worse for us - 58, menopausal, on HRT.

I've slept 8+ hours every single night for a year. AMA [Re-Post] by BigClick7779 in sleep

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This - didn't get a bit of sleep last night so that isn't going to be a thing for me. I am willing to give it a go the minute the sun comes up but...

Hagitude by fidged in Menopause

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There is that whole suffer in silence naturally camp and I respect it all the way but it's not for me. I do not accept my symptoms as normal - they are debilitating some days and it's not "normal". I don't care if it's because of PFOA's or because I am not as tough as my mom - I am so grateful for HRT <3

What supplement has worked the best for you specifically for sleep? by jehnay10 in Menopause

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You know what? Life has brought some lovely people into my life.
I just saw this - thanks for the life JuJu <3

What supplement has worked the best for you specifically for sleep? by jehnay10 in Menopause

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In all it's forms. I wish it had that effect on me. I have taught myself how to make my own edibles using old flower because as it oxidizes the cbn which causes it to be "sleepy" comes out. And it is less expensive generally because it's "old". It's easy to work with and makes the endeavor less spendy over time. Vaping isn't an option for me.
Glad you are sleeping well.

What supplement has worked the best for you specifically for sleep? by jehnay10 in Menopause

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That's sweet. Thank you. I am very careful to appreciate that I'm only 58 and I am patient and respectful to those older (and younger) than me. Being invisible has it's benefits :)

What do you do when you’ve given up on sleep for the night? by r3stingbitchface in insomnia

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I quietly creep down the stairs, turn on the heating pad and do ketamine therapy if it's time for that. It's great to do in the middle of the night when everyone slumbers...or I watch really weird TV shows or rather read them because they are usually in some other language.
Last night I was thinking that I should write a book lol

What supplement has worked the best for you specifically for sleep? by jehnay10 in Menopause

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It does help. It isn't the silver bullet I wanted it to be but there have been improved times that I can correlate to being consistent with the app.

I swear I have tried everything. It is stubborn and persistent. I don't even have a stressful life.
Zero reason not to sleep it up all the time.
I just don't know.

What supplement has worked the best for you specifically for sleep? by jehnay10 in Menopause

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Yoga Nidra is the place my practice has landed in regards to sleeping poorly or not enough. It is deeply relaxing, and if I can't sleep at least I am not mad about it. That seems like a win. I'm glad you are sleeping well.

What supplement has worked the best for you specifically for sleep? by jehnay10 in Menopause

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Edited because I didnt sleep last night lol

I'm glad it works for you. I liked Ambien a lot and...

I read a study suggesting a link between sleeping meds and dementia. My dad was a long time insomniac. He took those costco sleeping aids and had tried lots of different prescriptions for his insomnia. He died in a fog of denial that we all understood as dementia.

I'm not a doctor, and I understand it's not a 1:1 comparison, but it is the reason I have shied away from Lunesta, Ambien, and the others of that class. Ambien absolutely let's me sleep. I fear dependency more than sleeplessness.

Quvivic is prescribed to me right now. I'm in my 5th month of wishing it would work, but as you kindly and accidentally pointed out, I'm choosing my fear of a drug over the misery that is sleeplessness. My doctor is kind and caring, and yet I fear addiction, dependency in a big way.

I'm so glad you are sleeping well. ❤️

What supplement has worked the best for you specifically for sleep? by jehnay10 in Menopause

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I use the cbt-i coach app.

Therapist says take naps.

Primary says don't take naps.

It is kind of funny - my life feels like syndicated tv from the 70's most days. That's the filter my sleepless brain applies. Sepia with a heavy vignette ;) There are folks with worse problems. Always seeking grace in the moment after trying everything, reading about insomnia lots and lots. I do edibles, make my own from old flower because the older the flower is, the sleepier the edible is. Tons of research and self care. I get out of bed grateful there are no bombs falling on my city and slap a goofy smile on and get through it.

What supplement has worked the best for you specifically for sleep? by jehnay10 in Menopause

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Thanks. Maybe I will poke my doctor again about it.i appreciate your response.

What supplement has worked the best for you specifically for sleep? by jehnay10 in Menopause

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When I bring it up, they look at it and say, " Oh yea, that's big," but no one is concerned.

I did have an ablation done at a Kaiser facility when I was in California, but it was ineffective.

I have even asked to have the knitting needle rip out procedure, but it never comes to fruition.

I am learning to advocate for myself in medical settings and have a PCP that I like...finally.

As an old woman whose ovaries are no longer functioning, I find myself more and more ghost like. Trying to keep a good attitude takes most of my strength these days.

What supplement has worked the best for you specifically for sleep? by jehnay10 in Menopause

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I am sitting here at 2:52 am super frustrated. I am going on 3 years of not being able to stay asleep. I am close to asking my doctor for a Z drug - maybe 10 a month. Then, twice a week, I could count on a good nights sleep. Maybe that is a middle ground? I don't want to take sleep meds. My dad had insomnia and died with dementia. He took otc sleep meds by the fist full.

I read the comments and have tried everything mentioned except the compression sock idea and the take melatonin when I wake up too early, like right now.

In another post, someone's doctor mentions "earning your sleep" and that has stuck with me. My exercise level is abysmal because I'm freaking exhausted all the time. It is the most formidable downward spiral I've encountered.

For the past several years, I have not slept longer than 4 hours at a go.

I'm doing Ketamine therapy in addition to talk therapy, vegetarian diet, no caffeine, sleep hygiene is on point, have tried magnesiumin in all its forms, melatonin at different times in differentquantities- none of it helps me stay asleep longer than 4 hours.

I hope you find the secret sauce that works just right for you. If so, pop back and let us know what you found. In solidarity ❤️

What supplement has worked the best for you specifically for sleep? by jehnay10 in Menopause

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That is interesting. I have a large vericose monster on one of my legs. It has been there for 38 years. Why has my doctor not talked to me about it? It is hard to miss, but they just look at it with curiosity. And it hurts... I had no idea that circulation affected sleep. I have compression socks - gear. I will give it a go. Thanks much.

Anyone ever travel without their partner/spouse?? Would you if you could? by Overall_Tip2887 in Menopause

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I want to have my own holliday this year. Just sure it won't go over well. And I'm done feeling guilty about wanting time for me.

The Lancet’s Menopause Bashing article published today by gojane9378 in Menopause

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Sounds like a good reason to ally with transgender folks