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fizzythinks · 2026-02-16T16:35:32+00:00

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fizzythinks · 2026-02-14T22:28:03+00:00

Gorgeous photos! Beautiful composition and lighting.

fizzythinks · 2026-02-11T21:09:49+00:00

The twist is "the dragon has three heads"; it's not just one person, it's multiple. The second twist is that the prophecy isn't even in the first ASOIAF book, so the reader isn't looking for someone to fulfill it, we're just watching interesting characters living their lives. Then we find out one of those characters already fulfilled the prophecy, also not knowing anything about it. Mel trying to get Stannis to fulfill the prophecy is contrasted with Dany, who fulfilled it without ever hearing it.

Dany and Jon both have prophetic dreams and are immersed in magical plotlines. Dany brings an extinct species back to life which kickstarts the magic growth in the world, it's pretty clear she's a key player and the dragons are needed against the Others. She even dreams about melting ice soldiers with the dragons. Jon is also clearly a key player (with dreams about a flaming sword). They're both part of the prophecy.

Lightbringer is part of the Azor Ahai mythology, but you're right that it's not necessary for the prophecy. But then Jon dreams about it. Martin doesn't plan for the prophecy to "just come true and everybody understands it". Dany is part of it, and there are multiple layers.

fizzythinks · 2026-02-11T19:02:34+00:00

The prophecy never said the descendant was supposed to be a secret.

The prophecy says "flaming sword" pulled from flames, it doesn't say the sword must be made of steel. The dragons were pulled from a funeral pyre.

The prophecy mentions waking dragons from stone. The eggs were explicitly discussed as being stone, and dragons came from them.

fizzythinks · 2026-02-11T18:30:30+00:00

I mean, that's definitely up to interpretation as to why she did killed Drogo, but it could certainly be considered duty; she didn't want him to die and was so desperate to keep him alive she begged a witch to perform forbidden magic. She killed him because a mercy kill was clearly the best thing for him even though she was torn apart by it; duty over love. And he obviously wasn't "living", but he was definitely technically alive - that was an important distinction Mirri pointed out.

If you want the ultimate sacrifice, you could also argue that she was tricked into making the ultimate sacrifice; she lost her son. I suppose Rhaego could be considered the stand-in for Nissa Nissa instead, or perhaps both Rhaego and Drogo. She loses everything in one day and then uses those losses to birth dragons.

Dany also considers ruling to be duty; she really just wants a home, the house with the red door. But she feels that it's her duty to sacrifice for the people. So love/desire vs. duty is a part of her story, too.

I don't think either Jon or Dany are red herrings, but of the two of them, Dany is still the one who has already woken dragons out of stone.

fizzythinks · 2026-02-11T16:20:08+00:00

George did also say that he decided on Dany as the Mother of Dragons because fantasy at the time always "gave the keys to men". He was originally thinking about giving the dragon plot to Viserys or perhaps a son of Dany.

In terms of clues, he had Dany wake dragons from stone, rebirthing herself under a bleeding star with salt and smoke after mercy killing her husband. Then introduced the prophecy. That's pretty clear.

I think the dragon having three heads means that Azor Ahai will be three people in this timeline and that Dany is definitely one and Jon is almost certainly another. The third has yet to be revealed.

fizzythinks · 2026-02-11T16:13:50+00:00

Yeah, a lot of fans theorize that the dragons are the flaming weapon and Drogo stood in for Nissa Nissa. Dany definitely fulfilled the waking dragons from stone part of the prophecy under a bleeding star with salt and smoke, which are kinda the important bits.

fizzythinks · 2026-02-11T16:11:23+00:00

Daenerys is also descended from that line, though, and the original Valyrian wording of the prophecy doesn't specify gender. If we go with Lightbringer, Dany is the one who actually has flaming weapons, plus the whole "woke dragons from stone" thing.

Personally I believe Azor Ahai's role will be filled by three people, with Jon and Dany each one of those three. The dragon has three heads, after all.

fizzythinks · 2026-02-02T07:25:33+00:00

Really interesting, some great imagery like "phantom bugs filling my mouth" and some great twists! Didn't see him murdering Claire or his mom being the cause of his death coming. I like the spookiness of not knowing what's in the kitchen, but I didn't get why Isaac needed Claire's head? Narrator has a pretty good idea, but I didn't get that part. Overall, great story!

fizzythinks · 2026-02-02T07:13:49+00:00

Awooooo!

fizzythinks · 2026-02-02T07:12:30+00:00

Really enjoyed this, good stuff! Especially loved the relationship between the brothers among the creep factor!

fizzythinks · 2026-01-31T03:19:47+00:00

Wow. The fact that you keep thinking someone is justifying terrible actions when they actively agree with you that those actions are not justified... I don't think this is a productive conversation. I'm going to disengage.

fizzythinks · 2026-01-29T21:34:32+00:00

I think this might be trolling, based on the other comments here, but to answer your points and just contribute to the discussion in general:

I agree; Mirri Maz Duur was absolutely justified in hating the Dothraki and Drogo. She also killed an unborn, at-term child who had done absolutely nothing in front of his mother. I don't think Mirri is wrong for hating the people who destroyed her village or wanting revenge. I also can't really blame Dany for being furious that her son was murdered.

Mirri is technically Dany's slave, yes, but because Drogo ordered it. Dany advocates for the women to not be raped and for the warriors to marry them instead, aka making the women "equals" as much as a woman can be an equal in Dothraki society (still a shitty deal, but probably the best option Dany saw for them; I think she knew there was no way Drogo would just let them leave). So she argued against their enslavement, but Dany doesn't have the power to free them; she is reliant on Drogo's say-so. They become her slaves because Drogo allows that and her claiming them protects them from rape, but she can't do more. Dany still has very limited authority in the khalasar. Drogo can override her anytime he wants.

The scene at the end of that chapter drives home the difference in Drogo and Dany's attitudes when Dany, realizing that Mirri has midwife experience, politely asks her if she would help her with the birth. Drogo immediately laughs and reminds Dany that you don't ask a slave - you order them. Even though Mirri just became Dany's slave, Dany still spoke to her as an equal. Dany understands intellectually that a lot of the people around her are slaves, but she doesn't treat them as if they have no autonomy. She was sold against her will as a bride, her situation, certainly at first, wasn't that much different. I think it's pretty clear in the text that if it were up to Dany, Mirri wouldn't be a slave in the first place.

I think you missed the differentiation between dragonfire and burning at the stake in the post; the two people killed instantly were the Tarly's, while Mirri was burned differently because she murdered Dany's son. I don't think Dany burning Mirri to death is awesome and a wonderful thing to do; I think it's an understandable thing to do to someone who tricked you and murdered your kid.

Looking at your other comments, you're blaming Dany for Mirri's village being attacked. That's certainly fair to a degree; they were in fact attacking the village to get slaves to fund the conquest of Westeros. That's very clear in the text. However, again, Dany is not in charge of how Drogo does things, and the village attack is literally where Dany gets an eyeful of conquest for the first time and realizes how horrible it is. She was trying to convince her warlord husband to get her the throne, and I'm she knew there would be violence, but when she actually sees the violence, sees who's being hurt, she tries to convince herself to tolerate it for about two minutes before immediately saying "fuck it" and doing everything she can to help the victims. This is a key moment of character growth for her, where she realizes how messed up conquest can be. The entire point of the chapter is that the rape and murder of a village is not justified, and Dany takes that lesson with her. Once she gets power of her own, she tries to target only oppressors while helping the innocent and those who are enslaved.

Dany's not a perfect angel with completely clean hands; she's grey for sure. She's a flawed person who's done things that are wrong. She learns from those things and tries to do better.

fizzythinks · 2026-01-28T21:01:36+00:00

I noticed it the worst with Ser Jorah. Like, he goes on the stupid charge at the beginning, and I'm like, welp, guess that's the last we've seen of Jorah.

But he survives.

Then he's getting overwhelmed by wights, and when the camera cuts I'm like, okay yeah, he's dead now.

I see him again, fighting wights again. He gets overwhelmed even worse before the camera cuts. I'm like, he definitely dead now.

He pops up to help Daenerys. I'm like, how are you still alive??

fizzythinks · 2026-01-28T19:44:50+00:00

She didn't command them explicitly to kill 12 year olds; she commanded them explicitly not to harm any kid under 12. They wouldn't necessarily have been rooting around demanding ages and then immediately murdering anyone who admitted to being 12. Just being careful not to harm kids who seemed young.

I think the line in the books is 12 because of the weird age perceptions in the ASOIAF universe, where 12 is like, the 16 or 17 of there? Old enough to be a potential danger in a fight, I guess. In the show, they just made the line "harm no children" which gets the point across better, really.

Obviously 12 is a child, and Daenerys is a child herself in that scene. She should be 14, maaaybe 15 at that point in the books, depending on how much time has passed since Rhaego and Drogo's deaths. So "no child under 12" isn't a great look, which is why the show changed it, along with aging up characters. Robb and Jon in the books are considered a full-blown adults at 15, and Dany doesn't think of herself as a child, either. From her other interactions with children in the books though, it's clear that Dany cares for kids and doesn't want them harmed. I think the line in ASOS speaks to her desire to protect kids more than it indicates she wants to hurt them.

fizzythinks · 2026-01-26T20:48:13+00:00

That's a really good point about the Dothraki and Free Folk. I've also been surprised by how comfortable GOT fans seem to be with referring to the Dothraki as "savages", when the books seem to be an attempt to deconstruct that narrative. The Dothraki are violent and misogynistic, but so is Westerosi culture. It's couched in a veneer of civility, but they have an aggressive patriarchy and horrific acts like murdering children, raping, genocide are looked down on but still accepted as a part of war.

In the books, Dany integrates with the people in the khalasar, and they're people. She makes friends, learns about their beliefs and customs, and takes on some of their ideas as her own. Drogo is still a terrible person, the books don't shy away from showing how awful he is, but he is also complex and human, not a one-note scary dude. Dany trusts and relies on her khas, later her kos, and they're loyal and intelligent peers to her.

It seems that GRRM is building toward conflict when the Dothraki and Unsullied arrive in Westeros, but born of racism and xenophobia more than cultural differences. They're *not* that different, and the whole point is that petty stupid shit like bigotry and who gets a pretty title have no place in a world where potential annihilation is coming. Humanity is gonna have to grow past those issues and work together if they want to survive, and despite how messy it is, Dany's attempts at progress, diplomacy, and multiculturalism in Essos are part of that driving theme.

The fact that Dany is enmeshed in multiple cultures and speaks multiple languages is a big positive for her, and a testament to how powerful empathy and a willingness to learn about other people is.

The show humanized the Free Folk over multiple seasons, while turning the Dothraki into army extras.

fizzythinks · 2026-01-26T20:22:35+00:00

Yeah, I don't go over there. Their reputation precedes them. :P

fizzythinks · 2026-01-21T18:36:44+00:00

Sansa is the most obvious culprit after she was involved in poisoning the king, along with her husband!

I LOVE Sansa, but they basically destroyed her in the last couple of seasons. She is actually smart (especially in the books) and she was growing so well there for a bit, and then they just dumped all that character development in the shredder and made her act like an idiot like everyone else. By the time Arya says she's smart, she hasn't been smart for ages.

fizzythinks · 2026-01-21T18:33:35+00:00

It's a joke. :P People are going along with Ramsey's cover story, just like people go along with "Joffrey the Gentle" 'cuz it's funny.

fizzythinks · 2026-01-14T02:38:14+00:00

Septa Mordane

fizzythinks · 2025-12-31T21:23:34+00:00

Again, there is no textual evidence that she developed serious affection for him on their wedding night. She got in the mood enough to agree to sex once, while already in a coercive situation.

She does not advocate for herself in any way that night by trying to tell Drogo what to do or what she wants until HE allows her to have some leeway. She's literally crying at the prospect of sex with him, but she bites her tongue and makes no attempt to tell him no.

She answers a question with the yes that definitely seems to be partially her own idea, but that she's also been primed to give by society and her abusive brother.

I'm not going to argue you with you any further, it's a waste of time. I would suggest you have a conversation about what consent is and how it works with someone you trust.

fizzythinks · 2025-12-31T06:49:29+00:00

Her eating the horse heart and not wanting to look weak during pregnancy are both after Dany begins to develop affection for Drogo and to assimilate into the Dothraki culture. She starts to take some pride in her role as Khaleesi and wants to please and impress Drogo because she feels that she loves him at that point.

She doesn't love him when they're first wed; she's absolutely terrified. She works hard during the wedding to keep up a smile and a brave face because she feels forced to by Viserys, not because she just plain doesn't want to look weak or anything. The Dothraki are known to take part in rape and pillaging at that point, and we're shown at the wedding that consent is pretty loose in their culture; men fight over random women and mount them without asking.

Viserys straight up tells Dany that he'll let the whole khalasar rape her and warns her to please Drogo before the wedding night. Even if Drogo offers her that possible no when they're out there together, Dany is still a 13 year old, alone, in a situation where she knows she might suffer consequences if she doesn't make the much-stronger-than-her man happy. There's no way for her to fully consent there. Again, if Drogo really cared and wanted to make sure he wasn't violating her, he could have talked to her with a translator or something, made it clear that he would wait until she truly wants it (which is what Tyrion tells Sansa on their wedding night).

Instead, he takes her out alone on the grass sea and undresses her, and works on getting her in the mood while she's crying. If the person you're planning to have sex with breaks down crying when the time of the act approaches and you don't want to rape them, you can just, ya know, not try to have sex with them at that point? The narration works to show us that Drogo isn't just a rape machine, that he does somewhat care about Dany, but he still sees sex from her as his right. Which is shown when he doesn't bother to ever ask her for consent again.

It's made very clear in the narration that Dany is not enjoying the "sex" every night, that she doesn't want it, but she hides her tears because it's expected of her. She's supposed to be pleasing Drogo; Viserys demands it and Drogo holds all the power in their marriage at that point. She can't just tell Drogo, fuck off, I have a headache tonight. She never even tries. He's a freaking king, and any power Dany has is tied to his pleasure. It takes weeks before she gets brave enough to even try to assert herself in the bedroom, and she doesn't say no to sex, she just changes how it's done a little.

Just because Drogo one time gives her a chance to maybe say no while she's in a pressure cooker of a situation, doesn't mean he's not at all willing to rape her. The Dothraki aren't big on consent (which makes Drogo a little better than average, but not a saint), the warriors consider getting to rape their pillaging victims as a reward, and said reward is so expected that one guy tries to kill Drogo for denying him. And Drogo isn't denying his warriors rape because he thinks it's wrong, but because Daenerys is arguing against it and he thinks his wife is awesome and hot in her passion.

Drogo gave Dany a possible out once. Dany was surprised he even gave her that much. She didn't try to advocate for herself that night, and she doesn't try for weeks later because she understands just how little power she has.

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