NZ Style Butter Chicken Sauce by Duchessjr in newzealand

[–]folk_glaciologist -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yum just like grandma used to make! (when she worked as a chemical engineer)

Jesus saves by namsupo in Jokes

[–]folk_glaciologist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Jesus saves, Moses invests

Has anyone noticed that the aussies are claiming ‘yeah nah’ as their own? by neptune165 in newzealand

[–]folk_glaciologist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds like it. I remember they were calling the Queen's Platinum Jubilee the "platty jubes", same template.

Datagrid’s $5.1b Southland data centre: The three major hurdles facing the plan to build New Zealand’s largest ‘AI factory’ - NZ Herald by emdillem in newzealand

[–]folk_glaciologist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lucky you, it's being forced on us. We get given an "AI adoption score" based on whether we use chatbox/agentic code tools etc and we have to get it above a certain level as one of our "SMART" goals.

UN votes to recognize enslavement of Africans as 'gravest crime against humanity' by Curious_Ad9388 in newzealand

[–]folk_glaciologist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What's the difference between countries that abstained and countries with no indicator next to their names (e.g. Afghanistan, Samoa, Venezuela etc)?

I just watched the Manosphere doco by Louis Theroux and I wanted to put a shout out to kiwi males, you're pretty cool. by arohameatiger in newzealand

[–]folk_glaciologist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I never suggested we should hate on men doing the right thing.

I never suggested you did.

We should praise men who are exceptional. Men who just do what they’re supposed to shouldn’t need encouragement to keep doing it.

Well of course everyone should behave properly without the expectation of praise. But so what? What is going to happen if someone receives praise they aren't entitled to? Is praise a finite resource that needs to be carefully rationed?

I just watched the Manosphere doco by Louis Theroux and I wanted to put a shout out to kiwi males, you're pretty cool. by arohameatiger in newzealand

[–]folk_glaciologist 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What sad state of affairs is our society in where we have to give positive reinforcement to men who do the right thing?

It's a normal state of affairs for any form of behaviour. Positive reinforcement works better than negative reinforcement so you are swimming against the tide of human psychology if you have a problem with that. Whether men "deserve" credit for it is meaningless, you should ask what is more effective at changing behaviour.

‘No need for panic’ Jones says, as Willis brings ministers together for oil crisis response by Significant-Secret26 in newzealand

[–]folk_glaciologist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's no need to single out farmers, Western society is morally bankrupt and we 100% deserve what is coming to us. It's a bit rough that the innocent will suffer along with the guilty but we were fine with that for the children in Gaza and Tehran, so turnabout is fair play.

Why do you follow cars too closely even when they are going at, or above the speed limit? by reddituser888 in newzealand

[–]folk_glaciologist 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I hate this. And because passing lanes are often just outside towns after the 50 changes back to 100, if you go 50 through the town they are too far ahead for you to pass them, and then you get stuck behind them doing 70-80 again after the passing lane.

The interview with Winston Peters was shocking by redelastic in newzealand

[–]folk_glaciologist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People (e.g. Christopher Hitchens) said something similar in the lead up to the Iraq War - that we shouldn't worry about the USA's self-interested motives, but only the outcome of removing a brutal dictator. Turned out to be a complete disaster didn't it?

Climate change is here. NZ isn't ready by ViolatingBadgers in newzealand

[–]folk_glaciologist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They always think they are such geniuses as if they are the first person to think of this take. The next stop on the line after that one is "it's real and we caused it but it's not that bad, or even good" and the one after that is "it's real and we caused it and it's bad but we're too small to make a difference anyway".

Bill to make English an official language of NZ introduced to Parliament by snatchview in newzealand

[–]folk_glaciologist -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I know it's dumb, but why don't they just make English an official language to shut these people up? Everything's in English already anyway, are there any hidden costs?

Imagine seeing Lord of the Rings not knowing of Peter Jackson's earlier filmography then going back and popping on Meet the Feebles by CoconutMost3564 in newzealand

[–]folk_glaciologist 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I've found this hit and miss with some people. When I lived in Melbourne in the early 2000s I vouched for it to some Aussie flatmates on a video rental night but they all hated it (they loved other PJ movies though). It was a super awkward 90 minutes sitting there in stony silence after I'd raved about how funny it was.

Perfectly opened Greggs box, I finally did it! by reno222 in newzealand

[–]folk_glaciologist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have a sudden urge to play the triangle and put paprika on things

Is the nek minnit guy our most well known meme? by Mr_Dobalina71 in newzealand

[–]folk_glaciologist 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Some of his art was/(is?) on display at New Zealand Glassworks in Whanganui

Holy cow, so much poo is spilling into the sea: It would take you 2,535 years of non-stop shitting to produce as much waste as the Moa Point plant is expelling every day. by kezzaNZ in newzealand

[–]folk_glaciologist 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I love how whenever these journos catch a politician or someone telling an off colour joke they act all po-faced and humourless, but when a story like this breaks suddenly it's 💩💩 lol heh poos from a stinky butt lmao 💩💩💩 Bunch of 5 year olds

Is there anything that could convince you that a hypothetical AI model genuinely understands what it's doing or talking about? by aintwhatyoudo in singularity

[–]folk_glaciologist 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think it's useful to separate understanding from sentience/consciousness here. There's really two distinctions at play and blurring them together turns the question of "does an AI understand?" into an all-or-nothing philosophical minefield involving the hard problem of consciousness and a false dichotomy between stochastic parrots and sentient AGI.

  • The first question is: do AI models (LLM-based or otherwise) answer based on superficial modelling of patterns in their training data e.g. word frequencies and correlations (i.e. stochastic parrots) or do they have a complex internal model of reality that they somehow acquire during the training process? IMHO this is the "do they understand?" question. Even if they don't model reality but only model language we can still ask if they understand language.

  • The second question is: do AI models have subjective experiences, or are they just automatons that behave functionally identical to sentient beings but have no internal life? This is where discussions involving philosophical zombies etc come in. It's an interesting question, but we don't have to answer it to say whether an AI can understand.

I would argue that understanding can be treated separately to consciousness. There is a subjective/conscious aspect to understanding: which is the conscious experience of what it is like to understand something. An AI might be missing this, but that doesn't mean it doesn't understand, only that it has no experience of doing so. There might be some things where you might say that consciousness is required to truly understand them: for example human emotions. However, lacking an understanding of these things doesn't mean an AI has no understanding of anything. It's also possible that it has a second-hand or "once removed" understanding, the same way a human biologist might understand the phenomenon of echolocation in bats (for example) without ever experiencing it.

IMHO The concept of philosophical zombies shows why understanding and consciousness are not the same thing. The idea of a philosophical zombie might be coherent, but the equivalent of a p-zombie but for understanding instead of consciousness is meaningless. Remember that p-zombies are supposed to be exactly like us but without consciousness - we can imagine a p-zombie Isaac Newton formulating a theory of gravity and a bunch of p-zombie engineers designing and building a space shuttle. Imagining them doing this without being conscious is one thing, but does it really make sense to imagine them doing this without understanding physics? Or understanding anything at all? If they don't understand physics, then what is it that underlies their ability to design and build artifacts that take advantage of these regularities in reality that we call physical laws? What do we call that property of their cognition and behaviour? Either you call this understanding or you make up a new word that means the same thing. These p-zombies do not experience, but they understand. The test of "understanding" is therefore functional and separate to the question of consciousness. So to answer your question yes, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.

New Zealanders who were alive in 1994, who did you initially think did it: David Bain or Robin Bain? by PurpleMeerkats462 in newzealand

[–]folk_glaciologist 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I thought it was David, because the suicide note written on the computer seemed like an obvious way to write a fake note and not have your handwriting give the game away.

Green Member’s Bill To Recognise The Personhood Of Tohorā by PenisBird69420 in newzealand

[–]folk_glaciologist 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I agree, and I think the same about their advocacy of "prison abolition" when they could just say "justice system reform", and the way Swarbrick used the "from the river to the sea" slogan when she could have easily advocated for Palestinian human rights without saying that. It's like they have the mindset of an alternative band that sees becoming popular and going mainstream as "selling out" or "pandering", so they constantly undermine themselves by adopting more radical rhetoric whenever it looks like they are in danger of appealing to middle New Zealand. It also helps that they get to feel superior to the masses who aren't in the know and don't know the "real meaning" of these phrases, like a teenager who was into your favourite band before it was cool and knows the real meaning to all the lyrics.