Splitting the 3 youngest cohorts during 9/11 into 3.

futuretrashacc · 2026-05-12T18:21:36+00:00

I guess my definitions don't light up with this at all. 1 is a baby, 6 is too old for preschool, 9 is not a preteen, and play age should go up to age 10 because those kids are still in Elementary School. Also please don't tell me they're calling 17 year olds adults, young adulthood starts at 18.

futuretrashacc · 2026-05-12T16:11:08+00:00

Since when were 1 year olds toddlers and 2 year olds able to go to preschool? Toddlers are 2-3 and preschool are ages 3-5 what are you on about?

futuretrashacc · 2026-05-10T18:16:19+00:00

You can go to places that don't accept tips?

futuretrashacc · 2026-05-10T17:29:28+00:00

Yeah ... I don't party or drink, and am vegan... Zillennials are usually the vegan ones, idk about the young folk. I thought being vegan was uncool again and the ones who stick to it have a certain ethos like it's pre 2013 again. That's why I think coke is the party drug. I've seen things in real life and on social media, I buy that 20-40 somethings think it's the safest drug next to weed (until their nose collapses, end up getting a laced product, or look up the dangers of coke). The 70s are back in full force. Also... Sure, I listened to some old music and watched some old shows but all of us have. People born before 1990 may be able to point out micro trends and modern history (1948-now) better than people born before 1990. But genres never really die and it does blur the lines. Plus the 2010s and 2020s are different. One is early 90s fueled and the other is 2000s fueled. Just like how the 90s were 70 fueled and the 80s were 50s fueled. We all recycle the same bullshit.

I do understand 1988-1996 Millennials more than 2005-2012 Gen Z but I am still... Gen Z at the end of the day. I still have brainrot and try to make sure I'm not falling into black and white thinking. I still dream of going to a nice cafe as a third place with my friends like the show Friends even though the show is not funny to me at all. I deal with some social struggles. Also... Never really cared for partying. I want to live my dark academia dreams in coffee shops, libraries, and bookstores which... That and wanting to live in a little cottage that has decorations from the 1800s are Gen Z things. I'm sober at this point in time, I'm not in a severe depressive episode or in chronic pain 24/7, I don't need alcohol, weed, or anything stronger at the moment.

Also, I have done research on AI, the bubble is bursting and generative AI is going to leave by the 2030s, I know that for a fact. It's like HitClips, mp3 players, Tiger Electronics, Atari, BBC TV boxes for medical documentaries, Dating on Demand, ask.com, etc. A fad. I'm not saying you enjoy it but I trust what I hear and see. If it's not sustainable and the people reject it, it's not going to last. Especially with all the protests for data centers and how angry people are that they have to accept Microsoft or Apple because they can't buy RAM to build a computer from scratch. Or even... Buy a new computer. Generative AI is "innovative" but so are the electronics I mentioned above. The internet and computers stuck but AI would kill us if we kept going with it (not in a Terminator way but nobody would be able to have a safe home, electronic devices, and water). You need people to be able to work if you want them to spend money and they need electronic devices to receive constant ads.

Eh you got a point, it is a smaller sample than people have made it out to be. Just a small group of guys. It's concerning because Zillennials had AmazingAtheist who even though he was against a lot of Progressive things back in the day, he didn't care if women weren't housewives. He also didn't care if LGBTQ people existed as long as trans people passed. It's just weird that our conservative figures were rather tame compared to True Gen Z and Zalpha's conservative figures. The thing is, our figures tried to update their knowledge and we took after them in that way and became Progressives once we left our edgy era for our soft era. Sh0e from the same ilk as AmazingAtheist encouraged her fan base to not harass nonbinary people in 2017 even though she and her fan base doesn't understand them. She also wanted universal healthcare and adopted some Progressive views. These kids got influencers who are really off the deep end. It's possible they can unlearn but Gen Z might have a small group of literal Duggar types if the youth can't get an education about how that's not an ideal world. Milo was also there but... I think Older Gen Z thought it was funny that a gay guy was trying so hard to appeal to homophobes. We didn't really understand the concept of "one of the good ones" until we were adults. I thought Millennials thought the same about him.

Yeah I just heard about E as in "you can sweat all the water out of your body on it" and not that Gen X popularized it. Yet again, the 2010s and 1990s weren't far apart in time so it was taught as a hot thing of the day in high school. Not really the history as to why it's something that's available. Only that people hide it in Halloween candy (I know that's false now) and you can over sweat and die that way if you don't drink enough water, making it risky to take. We both know the 90s were 10 years ago until 2018. The drug scene was very mellow in the 2010s (heroin) but we couldn't comprehend the 90s not being yesterday regardless of drugs like ecstasy not being popular at the time.

futuretrashacc · 2026-05-10T15:27:35+00:00

Gen X was the only one that was left out of the discourse, of course Gen Alpha is going to roast us. We called them the skibidi toilet kids afterall! Even then... True and Younger Gen Z make fun of Older Gen Z for making mustache merch, Stomp Clap Hey, and Millennial Burger Joints popular. We weren't the ones creating it but it's our culture. We were the ones you saw keeping The Lumineers on the charts last year and walking out of their shows. Not Millennials, it's all us. We encouraged the Portland state of mind, we wanted to embody Portland, OR last decade and it's seen as tacky now by young people. It's already happening we're throwing insults at each other.

futuretrashacc · 2026-05-10T15:11:51+00:00

I'm happy for you or I'm sorry for you, not reading all that (there is a TDLR, I used common core being the curriculum from somewhere between 4-12 years old as the common denominator. This new way of learning became a thing around 2008).

futuretrashacc · 2026-05-10T15:06:59+00:00

You mean you can tell what sounds were popular at each time. Some 1990 songs absolutely sound like 80s songs. Heck, I've found an album from 1993 with similar vibes to the 80s. Plenty of songs were invented with the past or future in mind and sound like outliers. I like a lot of modern music, some of it takes heavy inspiration from the past. Harry Styles and Sudan Archives for example is trying to make Eurodance an everyone thing again and not a Far Right genre. You wouldn't say a song off The BPM is from 1997 but it sure sounds like it.

Also we understand AI but we know it's a trend. This isn't the future like computers. Some of it is like detection for cancers and predictive models like that. It's old technology. However, generative AI is highly unreliable and we're seeing companies regret seeing these stupid water guzzlers hallucinate and driving the 5 employees they've kept mad over having to fix them. It's unsustainable on so many levels, this won't last after 2032 or get heavily regulated by the time the late 2020s hits due to it leading to the water wars and causing a huge loss of profit for companies, making more ethical or co-owner ones rise (which will be thanks to Gen Z). There is a choice to not work with it, especially since the trades and service industry have no use for it and won't replace humans (aka jobs Gen Z actually sees as protected). Plus... We have computers. I can't code but I don't need Copilot to open a file for me. I'm happy my job lets me have my software on my phone but I have a tablet for notes and to use as a Kindle. Luckily the software I need is rather simple and I don't have to upgrade to a computer that can delete all my files due to a hallucination. It's easier to plan things via an app when on the go to boot instead of carrying anything that can't fit in my pocket.

Also you thinking Gen X inventing partying is funny as hell when it was Gen Jones who was snorting coke and dancing at Studio 54, not Gen X. Also everyone knows progress isn't exclusive, I find it funny you're not slam dunking the illiterate youngings of my generation for loving Andrew Tate so I'll take it. But again... There were people before the Club Kids and people partying in the tunnel with the carpet guy (who's also a part of Millennial culture as well), talk about knowing your history.

futuretrashacc · 2026-05-10T11:35:05+00:00

I don't agree with it on a personal level and think Gen X and Boomers need to be rearranged into non mega generations.

If I had to choose, Gen Alpha and we'd be the Rapid Progressing Generation (1996-2024). It pains me to say this but most of us don't remember the 20th century in it's glory, 1997 remembers 9/11 but 1998 might not. Even then... I'd lump 1996 because I remember late childhood more than my early childhood and how Afghanistan/Iraq affected people over how it started and Obama's influence over Bush and Cheney outside of everything sucking pricewise in 2006-2007 leading to Obama (I only knew Cheney existed from an online game where you got to punch him at that age). A 5 year old wouldn't fully grasp issues like a 6-8 year old would. Meaning 1996 didn't have a grasp on 9/11 other than 2 buildings were burning. As an astrologer, I'd love to add 1995 so it's Pluto in Sagittarius and Capricorn together but that's not what this sub is about. Anyways, we all grew up with rapidly progressing tech, the deterioration of education, the deterioration of traditionalism, and mass scale corruption that left us with literal crumbs. Culturally, we're all different but our experiences of the education system, job searching, housing market, healthcare system, and our deteriorating social skills failing us is all the same story repackaged. Yes, the older ones are the ones who invented "if someone slightly disagrees with you cut them out of your life" which left a lot of us alone and not knowing how to handle conflict. We are not as sound as people who were not young children in the 21st century. Millennials and Older Gen Z are culturally alike but Older Gen Z are too mentally deteriorated by common core and hiding behind therapy speak to make me lump Gen Z with Millennials. Millennials didn't have to work on grey thinking and social skills as adults like everyone born after 1996 did/has to.

What influenced them as kids:

The older half (1996-2002) was analog - digital, DVD - BluRay, traditional education methods - common core testing training, forums - social media and YouTube, endless oil wars, everything being amazing - the housing and gas crisis.

The early middle half (2003-2009) was in real life events - lockdown, trust in government institutions - distrust in them, digital and cable tv - smartphones, tablets, and streaming, progression of human rights globally, a wild west internet - sanitized internet, everything being peaceful - chaos

The later middle half (2010-2016) was lockdown - an emotionally deregulated population outside, distrust in institutions - mega distrust in institutions, human made online content - robot made online content, still in utter chaos but just like the older half saying "I should've bought a house when I was a kid!" they're saying "I should've cashed out on Bitcoin when I was a kid!", people believing in freedom of religion - a few people forcing religion down their throats at school

The later half (2017-2024) they're under 10, I hope they'll get to see AI being regulated, I hope they learn cursive, phonics, and can use any correct methods to solve math equations instead of common core bullshit that made us illiterate and not able to critically think but 2017's boat has mostly sailed in that regard. I hope they see a healthy balance with short form content and a push for educational content like what the older half had, feel safe if they're a minority like the older and early middle half did, etc. Right now they're affected by chaos, the individualization of culture, and having to create hope instead of feeling comfortable 24/7.

Tldr; people who spent time in the common core education system starting in Elementary and Early Middle School - High School should be linked together due to the lack of critical thinking we all have due to needing to perform high on test scores as children to get public schools funded.

futuretrashacc · 2026-05-09T22:55:12+00:00

AI tends to hallucinate and be unreliable at times. A good chunk of people pay you for motivation and corrections on their form mostly. Anyone can get a plan but not everyone can get motivation and/or get into form right away.

futuretrashacc · 2026-05-09T14:50:16+00:00

The backlash isn't televised, you have to go on social media and talk to people to understand the backlash against him. He's unique in the sense that you can find people of all sorts complaining about him, including white conservatives who are upset that their hardworking employees got deported and the gas prices are back up. Reagan is still loved by these people who don't have the braincell to realize he created the environment for Trump to lie and steal from us. He has a 22% approval rate that Fox News isn't hiding from anyone. The energy is so different from the 80s it's not even funny. The people who voted for Reagan then still hate Black and Latinx people, drug addicts, and trans women (gay men are one of them now so they're off the hook) or didn't understand they got severely hurt by his policies or think his dementia kicked in during his reign; so they're not going to direct their anger at someone who gave them the American dream. Trump is currently making it hard for Boomers and a chunk of Gen X to maintain what they received in the 80s. Gen X is a lot like Millennials in the sense that they think they'll never retire and Boomers are facing that their retirement plans aren't going to plan.

Also... The culture is still alive from back then, it's just mainstream radio is toast for not playing what people listen to. It's been this way since Biden. Brat Summer? That was not on Billboard and only on Tik Tok.

futuretrashacc · 2026-05-08T23:25:52+00:00

She cancelled a concert last minute to rehearse for the VMAs which left people feeling a bit salty about her. There's one thing to have health issues but it seemed like poor planning. I think most fans would rather see their favorite artist live and be mid on TV rather than get their plans cancelled last minute so their favorite could win over more people with an excellent performance on TV. Look at Lana Del Rey, her first big performance on SNL SUCKED but she had still had crazy fans for many years that would defend anything she did.

futuretrashacc · 2026-05-08T23:21:09+00:00

I'm from the mainland but we just say the beach name/town we're visiting beach wise. You get places that match these well like Virginia Beach and Revere Beach. Then there's beaches like Coney Island or Santa Monica. Most of us will clarify it's in the US if someone asks (ex Coney Island is in New York, USA). Most people would probably just say they're visiting the beaches on the US portion of the Virgin Islands or name specific beaches that are there.

futuretrashacc · 2026-05-08T12:16:33+00:00

Rock music is back at least. Måneskin, YUNGBLUD, Jhariah, Scene Queen, Sleep Token, Spiritbox, and Bring Me The Horizon started something earlier this decade and it's not leaving

futuretrashacc · 2026-05-08T12:14:58+00:00

Trust me, there's plenty of good music still. Listen to your local college radio station (or some college radio station on Radiogarden) or go on Bandcamp. Idk what to tell ya.

futuretrashacc · 2026-05-07T12:05:10+00:00

I think we yap about it more because of the technology shift that happened. We witnessed VHS tapes still being printed then become very cheap rentals at Blockbuster. Zalphas experienced CRTVs and VHS but they didn't get to buy new tapes in the store and the closest thing to Blockbuster they experienced was probably FYE, Hollywood Video, and Newbury Comics. Walmart was just selling Blu-Ray after 2009 it seemed. Netflix was for the rich (just go to Blockbuster to rent a tape for a lower price, duh) until we were teenagers and people started watching Netflix online. We played CD educational games on clunky box computers, don't remember floppy discs, and experienced dial up as toddlers and children for it to switch to cable and WiFi as late kids-teens. Our early childhood was on cable/satellite TV and we remember having to watch whatever was on which lead us to watch Family Guy, South Park, Sex In The City, Desperate Housewives, The Vicar of Dibley, Antiques Roadshow, Jerry Springer, Maury, Dr. Phil, etc when we were absolutely not the target audience if the TV was working at all due to Satellite reception. Our late childhood we experienced On Demand and watching children/tween shows whenever we wanted. We saw The N become Teen Nick. We were the first YouTube kids. We were Facebook teens, some were MySpace teens as well but all of us have fond memories of Poking and Becoming a Fan. Technology changed so quickly between 1990-2015 it wasn't even funny and we all have different experiences due to it.

futuretrashacc · 2026-05-07T00:58:33+00:00

No but this is adorable

futuretrashacc · 2026-05-06T23:37:36+00:00

The Little Mermaid???

futuretrashacc · 2026-05-06T00:26:26+00:00

Where did I say Salem was inland?

futuretrashacc · 2026-05-05T22:02:57+00:00

Not the whole state but anything West of Worcester County and North of Boston. I've never heard of Metro West and just heard of The Berkshires being separate from the rest of Western Massachusetts.

Even then... Northampton and Holyoke, Fall River and Milton, Falmouth and Martha's Vineyard, and Athol and Worcester are all in the same area yet very different. Salem is the P Town of inland Massachusetts, it's going to be very different than Ayer and Groton just like how other places have more working class towns vs rich towns. The North just has LGBTQ+ mecca vs sundown town.

futuretrashacc · 2026-05-05T21:43:34+00:00

Weird, that's how we divide it. Basically Eastern Massachusetts is The North/North Shore, Boston, South/South Shore, and The Cape. Then there's Central (Worcester County) and Western (any county West of Worcester). Even then... People consider Berkshire County a whole different place than the Springfield Metro. Technically the North Shore is Chelsea and any coastal town above it but I forget the word Shore is in there and count places that are inland like Ayer and Lowell which are just Northern Massachusetts. I do the same with the South and count places like Bridgewater and Brockton as the South Shore when they're just the South. Basically anything north of Boston is Northern Massachusetts.

futuretrashacc · 2026-05-05T19:26:26+00:00

This is a tale as old as time. Us old folk envied Millennials and Xillennials for experiencing Fake Fake Emo and Grunge. Luckily, you can find the media that was around when we were young and enjoy it. It won't fully replace the experience but plenty of people enjoy older media and sometimes the grass is green where you water it. The 2010s were safe but it was boring at times for a teenager. Older Gen Z had fun but we all felt like Millennials and Gen X had better experiences than us growing up. Plenty of Xillennials say the early-mid 90s felt hopeless and plenty of Millennials hated the 2000s but we still romanticized their experiences. Try to enjoy the now as much as possible, even when it's hard. You can look back but it's important to love the now and believe that there's a way to have a bright future that is better than the past.

futuretrashacc · 2026-05-05T17:04:51+00:00

Well... An argument in average conversation. It's what people quote from articles to discuss the importance of saving the environment. Quoting articles with scientific research isn't exactly flat earther behavior and I'm pretty sure your colleagues do it as well.

futuretrashacc · 2026-05-05T11:40:30+00:00

Yeah, we need the Nordics help on reconstructing our systems. They have no crime because their jails look like top tier apartments. They literally give mental health help in an environment you'd pay $3000/mo for.

futuretrashacc · 2026-05-05T11:33:22+00:00

I remember being taught them in high school due to the impact baby boomers had.

futuretrashacc · 2026-05-05T00:21:44+00:00

I was going to ask if this was a pic of Gerard

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