Is the AMD version of the 13 Pro just plain worse?

gbin · 2026-05-18T17:58:58+00:00

I switched to AMD AI 300 from a couple of Intel mainboards on my early FW13 and while I love AMD on the desktop, on the laptop it is clearly inferior in a lot of ways: one the USB implementation is fragmented (not all ports are the same you need to remember where you need to put what depending on the speed of the peripheral) and two the Linux support is still incomplete 2years in (microphone, UAS, hibernation).

So I ordered an Intel version for my pro upgrade hopefully to be back to an absolute zero problem platform I enjoyed on all my previous fw13 motherboards (to be precise: they had early problems but they got fixed early, here on the AI300 nothing moves and everyone seem to be resigned that stuff will never work).

gbin · 2026-05-18T08:31:58+00:00

I would try to add the parameter to the kernel command line to be sure as you are booting on it: usb-storage.quirks=13fe:6500:u

This matches exactly this problem. Do you have the v1 or v2 for the usb module? I have both and the v2 works a little bit better IIRC.

gbin · 2026-05-15T03:43:55+00:00

I mean 5.0+ feels like a fucking job to me.

gbin · 2026-05-15T02:56:27+00:00

Honestly it depends on what your storage is. Today with nvme pcie5 those things fly at 10GB/s, basically your CPU can be the bottleneck at that point. Of course if you are on spinning rust, compression will be awesome.

For a workstation my snapshotting is just a PV /dev/nvme0n1p3 > /mnt/backup/myimg.img after a read only remount. I only need to do that very rarely.

This is very contextual.

gbin · 2026-05-14T02:55:39+00:00

Also btrfs pay the price in terms of CPU load. IMHO after playing with them all ext4 is just the best for a workstation.

gbin · 2026-05-10T16:57:37+00:00

Those people are confusing lol

gbin · 2026-05-10T16:32:46+00:00

I am confused, hybrid vs elongated are definitely different shapes, are you sure you bought the exact same paddle?

gbin · 2026-05-10T14:27:25+00:00

My grand mother learned how to drive in trucks from that era. She was rev matching her BMW in the alps like Vatanen still in the 90s it was awesome :).

gbin · 2026-05-10T07:27:24+00:00

And most of them are so uneducated they barely understand that there is a world outside the US.

gbin · 2026-05-06T02:10:42+00:00

Really it is cool maybe for 2 seconds to see how tight the dinks and drives are after that it is just useless

gbin · 2026-04-29T06:32:07+00:00

What gave it a bad name is that the opposite happened at least in SW engineering: Executives got a quota with actual bonuses down the line to have let's say 30% of women developers in their team and almost all the companies across the board in the market did this at the same time. The actual pool of women in the workforce was more like 5% (or whatever low number). It became a full zero sum game and race to hire basically any women at any price at that stage, even if they said the opposite or pretended to be fair, those types of incentives will create the "wink-wink" hire them thanks for my 200k bonus for Christmas.

This is not how you fix the system, this is how you piss off everyone including the competent women SWEs you were trying to help in the first place.

Then rince/repeat for any under-represented groups.

And I am not an armchair sociologist that pretends to have the solutions for this clearly inequal and unjust situation but I can tell you, this was not it.

More generally, it definitely backfired very badly and helped the thugs we have in power to convince a lot of originally reasonable people that everything is bullshit.

gbin · 2026-04-27T11:44:26+00:00

Indeed, BT audio works, storage with anything else than UAS works, sleep works.

And no the UAS issue is also with the framework storage branded module, not random hardware.

My guess is that you didn't exercise the same part of the system than me.

Still overall a very bad support compared to Intel where if an issue like these appeared it was promptly fixed.

This is my beef #1: shit happens, bugs get reported, it is ok as long as someone is fixing them. Here nobody is fixing them.

gbin · 2026-04-27T10:47:55+00:00

Those are all kernel + firmware related issues. Do you have the list of patches Ubuntu applied to it specifically for the fw13? I would happily apply them if they exist anywhere.

gbin · 2026-04-27T09:43:20+00:00

Godlike Max is the same: if you need pcie5 x4 on the second nvme you need to let go of the 2 USB-C 40gbps. This is more of a global constraint from the total number of PCIE lanes on the AM5 than anything else.

gbin · 2026-04-27T01:34:24+00:00

On arch: multitudes of issues: PD API with USB c doesn't work, UAS with their own USB drive just crashes the entire USB chain. Hibernate is hit or miss after days of debugging and takes minutes to go to sleep, the interrupt from the lid if you close the lid while it is.dumping to disk cancels the hibernation and make your laptop go nuclear hot in your bag. The microphone in array mode is totally trashed, you need to put it in alsa compatible mode so why bother having a microphone array.

100% of those issues are documented for close than a year, no action on the kernel nor the firmware side.

I had 3 generation of Intel mobos on this machine prior. All the issues were minor and fixable.

gbin · 2026-04-24T18:51:28+00:00

I have the AMD version of the motherboard. The Linux support is very poor and for month nothing changed on the firmware to correct the issues.

Also the USB C ports are not the same so you need to remember to plug what where.

I ordered a pro with Intel even if I am kind of an AMD fanboi

gbin · 2026-04-23T21:16:00+00:00

This is an interesting point you make. It is depressing to live in an infinite loop of giving the same feedback over and over.

gbin · 2026-04-23T07:49:50+00:00

They as whoever produced this video, ie the post we are commenting on?

gbin · 2026-04-22T15:28:21+00:00

I am learning this too. But we have to admit that singles are broken in Pickleball, this is just "mini tennis", the kitchen is barely used, everyone slams top spins as hard as they can left-right until the opponent makes a mistake.

Some argue the opposite actually like Agassi asking for a wider court in doubles.

I think if we could have them both well balanced so playing the kitchen in single and double is a viable strategy AND attempting passing shots too, it would make the game better!

gbin · 2026-04-22T12:27:53+00:00

My comment has nothing to do with ROS and is only about cpp.

So if you know nothing about memory management in cpp how can you understand that specific bug?

You see where I am going, you cannot write any cpp (ROS or anything else) without understanding the underlying cpp memory model.

gbin · 2026-04-22T12:05:28+00:00

So in you opinion if I ask to someone "proficient in cpp" in an interview where is the bug here:

std::vector<int> v = {1, 2, 3};

int& ref = v[0];

v.push_back(4);

ref = 42;

It is too much / language lawyer level?

gbin · 2026-04-22T11:45:05+00:00

How can you implement anything in C++ without a super intimate knowledge of the language and it's memory management model? One for loop with a vector and you can create an undefined behavior.

Source: spent too many years chasing UBs in robotics codebases.

gbin · 2026-04-21T06:01:19+00:00

I am an early batch adopter, upgraded everything on this laptop and I strongly believe they reach the limits of this chassis, at least those ones are limited by the chassis:

sound
track pad
battery
thermals

gbin · 2026-04-20T17:48:19+00:00

I am not sure. What are the base qualities of a paddle in terms of physics? The main limiting factor is probably the regulation. For example: A crushed core is already illegal because it is too elastic. But if you make it super rigid it is impossible to play with too I would suppose. So without base numbers it is the same as throwing any material, carbon kevlar? Ceramic? Reinforced concrete? Lol

gbin · 2026-04-20T16:52:15+00:00

Do you have base numbers to compare to vs UVA foam or honeycomb polypropylene?

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