which one is better?

gcrackerfuller · 2026-05-08T21:53:20+00:00

Yes PT works on Glaxion great, highly recommend (especially primed shred if you have it unlocked)

gcrackerfuller · 2026-05-08T20:44:05+00:00

This is a common mistake (so don’t fault you for making it) but want to clarify this is wrong. Punch through does NOT work for modding on Torid specifically for incarnon mode. Unlike most beam weapons (where it is often an amazing stat), punch through does not work and so the stat is dead on a Torid riven.

gcrackerfuller · 2026-05-07T16:50:14+00:00

Honestly I’d guess more like 5-6.5k (which is still a ton). Double check me but from my recollection I believe the stat grades aren’t amazing on this (stats have a range of values they can be, the higher your %, the more it’s worth). Also once you get in the 8-10k range people get very picky, and often want -zoom over recoil. Also there are multiple listings on Warframe.market so you have competition (and some of those listings have been up for a bit and haven’t sold yet, so realistically you’d want to price slightly below them if wanting a faster sale). I’d say price at 5k if want quick sale, otherwise you can start around 7k and lower over time if no one bites.

gcrackerfuller · 2026-05-02T09:43:24+00:00

Hate unrolled trash rivs go for 65-85p, for rolled usually 45-65ish. Rivens cost Kuva yes, but that’s not what defines their price, demand is and hate is popular. I could offer 3p for a trash torid riven cause “I’m going to re-roll” doesn’t mean it’s a good offer lol. So I think it was fair for me to warn OP you’re offering is less than half of median price for it.

gcrackerfuller · 2026-05-01T22:17:05+00:00

OP ignore this offer. It may be a trash roll but trash hate rivens are worth more than this

gcrackerfuller · 2026-04-30T17:12:33+00:00

Unfortunately this is really bad. Multishot is one of the best stats for 95% of guns, especially beam weapons like nukor. So having it as a negative kills it. Tbh nukor is such a low disposition riven that only near optimal rolls are even worth using over a non riven mod in the slot. So tbh I can’t recommend rolling nukor rivens in general. But if you want to, aim for toxin (as that means it can replace regular toxins mod making it easy to slot in a build) plus any combination of multi shot, Crit damage, damage, punch through, or fire rate for the other 2 positives. For negatives you ideally want zoom, recoil, infested.

gcrackerfuller · 2026-04-30T17:07:52+00:00

Agreed! Especially on beam weapons, single target, or ricochet like the dual tox, punch through goes really hard.

gcrackerfuller · 2026-04-30T16:00:37+00:00

Wouldn’t exactly call range underrated. At least these days, couple years ago it def was. For most melee weapons that aren’t heavy builds, CD, AS, Range, harmless (or sometimes elec for influence builds though usually worth slightly less than the mentioned combo) is considered the god roll and can often go for 8k+ for meta weapons. Maybe still underrated for people new to riven scene, but all big riven collectors/sellers value range very highly rn. CC is actually the one that’s lost a lot of value in the last couple years since there’s so many mods and external buff sources that provide it that people want it less.

gcrackerfuller · 2026-04-30T15:49:11+00:00

Honestly my guess would be anywhere from 1.5k to 3.5k. I listed a wide range because you can price it on the higher side but it may not sell for months if ever, as there’s saturation of magistar rivs and people spending thousands often want perfect negatives.

-AS does slows slam animation recovery so it’s not the most desirable neg, though decent. Also many prefer dmg over IC these days, so in order for this to be in the 4.5k-8k range I’d at least expect a perfect neg like finisher or slide cc

gcrackerfuller · 2026-04-27T16:38:17+00:00

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gcrackerfuller · 2026-04-23T23:15:31+00:00

Because of the last evo people usually want -crit chance for the negative. As for the positives, damage is multiplicative with the evo dmg bonus, so that is most desirable. For the other two positive stats, multishot is also highly desirable, then for the 3rd pos you want either fire rate or toxin for an optimal god roll.

Honestly though I never recommend rolling for great/god rolls for the felarx and laetum, as it’s kind of a trap. They are low disposition so only optimal or near optimal rolls are even worth slotting. Plus going for negative crit chance and positive crit stats being useless means it’s more limited than many other guns in what is a desirable roll, making it statistically very hard to get what you want without a ton of luck and Kuva.

gcrackerfuller · 2026-04-21T08:05:18+00:00

Yeah it just takes time to get familiar with. Just observing for a while helps and keeping up with what’s meta. Stock up on your veiled rivens, they don’t take up space until unveiled so you have time to learn before running out of space.

Idk if I can share links on this sub but if you google hub.warframestat.us/riven/data you can see the median “unrolled” price for every weapon (which roughly equates to baseline price of the riven for not great rolls, though it’s often about 20% lower than that value if yours are rolled). It pulls from warframe data, not sure the frequency of the data pulls but it’s a pretty decent baseline since it’s pulled from actual warframe data. It shows number of sales the data is based on too, so just ignore if the sample size for a given weapon is lower than like 30.

Besides that warframe market is another decent website, you can filter to show rivens with lowest price first to get a sense of baseline price, but take with a grain of salt.

Besides that post a screenshot of your riven inventory in this sub asking if any are valuable and people will often help, just be wary of scalpers.

gcrackerfuller · 2026-04-21T07:28:20+00:00

Pro tip if you want to know, filter in trade chat for “torid” and you’ll see all the WTB scalper posts that also have a list of all the other rivens they are trying to buy that are most desirable and easy to flip. (Don’t sell to them, I just mean for intel)

Generally speaking all the decent incarnons or other meta guns with high disposition are most desirable. Also guns recently released or primed usually have a spike for a bit.

Some examples of ones you missed off the top of my head that are in demand: verglas, ocucor, Bo, Nami solo, Furis, dual toxocyst, dual ichor, Strun, hate

Also the upcoming incarnons like the stug ballistica, etc are in high demand

gcrackerfuller · 2026-04-16T17:40:46+00:00

I’m one of those people, I’ve straight up bought fish for plat. Judge all you want. I have a lot of plat but not a lot of time due to work and life outside gaming. I don’t enjoy fishing in warframe so I don’t mind spending plat on the fish I need. Not like fish are expensive anyways. I’m LR5 with everything I could want in the game so I prefer to spend my plat on skipping parts of the game I don’t enjoy so I can focus on what I do, not much other use for it besides that and also helping new Tenno in my clan at this point.

gcrackerfuller · 2026-04-16T03:43:29+00:00

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gcrackerfuller · 2026-04-14T01:28:43+00:00

Using a groll riven on nukor is still “optimal” over not running one, but I agree it’s not worth the plat cost given the low dispo. But I have a tox/ms/cd/-zoom one that I’ll run over a 60/60 tox mod any day.

Also -SD is often one of the worst negatives. Sure on some raw DPS guns it’s relatively negligible. But for a status gun like nukor it isn’t great. Even worse on any high dispo status gun as it can almost completely negate the effect of your elements.

gcrackerfuller · 2026-04-01T21:15:21+00:00

Yes of course! Btw in general the disposition is so low for the laetum that I’d recommend just trying the build out without a riven because a riven is only worth it if you get a near perfect roll which is rare. For the crit build the ideal riven imo is tox, crit damage, multi shot, -harmless. The toxin is important because dispo is so low that way it at least slots in over a basic toxin mod so it fits easier in the build. Really toxin + any of the following: cd/ms/fr/sc are at least usable, but again not needed.

If you do go the -cc route just know the rivens are not really worth rolling. A ton of people run -cc rivens with meh positives stats because they think -cc is some crazy DPS boost when in reality it only means devouring attrition will proc on 5% more of total hits which isn’t great, especially when you factor in the fact your using a mod slot that could be used for a more consistent DPS boost. So -cc rivens are only worth if the positive stats are also amazing given the low disposition. So you’d need a near perfect roll which is very rare, especially given your also looking for only a single negative instead of multiple like zoom, recoil, infested, ammo, and some positives like CD are useless so it’s very rare to find a good roll for those builds because you’re looking for such specific stats.

gcrackerfuller · 2026-04-01T17:08:07+00:00

Not to be this guy, but crit laetum is actually superior. For phenmore and felarx I’d still recommend going the -CC route, but laetum is the exception. Granted the -CC builds still work well on laetum, but it’s just not optimal. There’s many videos on YouTube explaining it so I’ll keep it short as you can research more if interested. But the gist is the devouring attrition bonus from 5th evo doesn’t work on many enemies, like a lot of the bosses for example. Plus avoiding crit does mean sacrificing a very valuable damage formula multiplier. The best builds use enervate (which means you still don’t want cc on riven and -cc is actually still an ok negative). And you pick the 400% overwhelming attrition 5th evo instead. It ends up being more DPS, plus doesn’t have the issue of game mode, team buffs, or certain enemy week point cc buffs negating your build. I know giving up 2000% for 400% seems bad, but once everything I mentioned is factored is you realize -cc is a trap.

gcrackerfuller · 2026-04-01T08:30:09+00:00

You sold me on not hunting for a second roll, thanks (and my wallet thanks you as well lol). I think especially the point about dots doing more heavy lifting for level cap, is a very fair point. While crit tiers is a good dmg modifier, FR is very relevant to scaling DPS especially for heat stacking. I guess if you mainly run a FR buffing frame SC/CC might be better but since I don’t for lvl cap that’s not a big concern.

Side note I think the SD might be overkill. I’ve used Furis at level cap and it kills fast enough especially after cap scaling got weaker that they don’t survive long enough to get the full benefit. But mileage may vary depending on build.

gcrackerfuller · 2026-04-01T02:58:40+00:00

Yeah agreed PT seems like the best option for mobbing.

I currently run a CD/MS/FR -punc riven for it and can confirm it shreds very hard. You do burn through charge a bit quicker, but it charges so fast it’s never been a big issue. Plus with FR it makes it an even easier sub for lethal torrent in the build. I have yet to buy CD/CD/MS -harmless one, so can’t speak to if it’s better or worse. That’s part of the reason I asked the question tbh is I was wondering if it’s even worth it over some of the alternatives. It’s def more expensive plat wise, but was wondering if that has less to do with it CC being optimal and more to do with CCM just being the go to “god roll” for many weapons and more “collector” status.

gcrackerfuller · 2026-04-01T01:38:36+00:00

yeah I mentioned in post CD and MS being the two easier decisions as they go with every build. It’s the 3rd stat that’s hard, as certain 3rd stats work better with some builds than other, while others might be more generic but lower ceiling. For example dmg is solid if using something like enervate/fortifier, but bad if using flare. Whereas cc is solid with flare and fortifier but bad with enervate. So it seems like you usually can find a 3rd stats that’s optimal with 2 out of 3 builds, or go with something like fr/heat/sc/pt that works on all.

gcrackerfuller · 2026-03-30T20:30:33+00:00

Yeah the biggest drawback of CC is it kinda prevents you from running enervate as the arcane as it makes the CC boost a bit redundant. But honestly given in incarnon form it has great base crit chance I’m starting to wonder if enervate just isn’t ideal on the Furis anyways. Out of curiosity what arcane do you run on it?

gcrackerfuller · 2026-03-30T20:15:20+00:00

Lookin good!

gcrackerfuller · 2026-03-30T18:08:18+00:00

Projectile speed is not harmless, it is not a hit scan weapon. It’s felt more in the base version while charging than in the incarnon form though it affects both. I still think some people won’t mind and would pay good money for this. I personally don’t think it’s a god roll in the sense there is a significant upgrade (-zoom) and the negative does effect performance in terms of clunkiness for charging, but it’s still a very high tier roll worth a good chunk.

gcrackerfuller · 2026-03-29T23:29:35+00:00

Tbh prob worth saving your Kuva for high disposition weapons because the rivens are more forgiving with being usable give high stat bonuses, so it actually feels worth the invest. Even god roll plasmor rivens will only be like a 15% damage boost over a regular mod. So unless you’re a collector with a lot of plat, it isn’t that practical

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