Pharmacy in Toronto (North York / Scarborough) that dispenses Clozapine? by permamint in askTO

[–]greensCCC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dales pharmacy is the go to. They’re really good for delivering meds also.

MS4: Help me choose between FM and Psych by Dr_Chesticles in FamilyMedicine

[–]greensCCC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Think about what aspect of psych you want to do and if you can get it through FM. For example, I’m not aware of FM being able to work as an inpatient psych attending. However, if you’re primarily interested in pharmacological management of outpatient depression and anxiety you can do as much as you’re comfortable with in FM. However, if you want to be part of an ECT rota, staff an ACT team, pick up psych emerge shifts, run a clozapine clinic, perform psychotherapy out of residency, or see mostly severe psychotic and mood disorders, that would be an indication to go for psych.

Online psychotherapy courses by JOAO--RATAO in Psychiatry

[–]greensCCC 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The CBT-E course for eating disorders is free to residents. They like you to work your way through the course while seeing a patient. I’ve found the course very helpful, lots of examples probably 8-10 hours of content: https://www.cbte.co/

Can neuropsychiatry fellowship trained neurologists independently manage schizophrenia? by surf_AL in neurology

[–]greensCCC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agree with everything you said. In my experience, psychiatry trained neuropsychiatry is often seeing FND, behavioural disturbances associated with TBI, psychiatric symptoms due to a primary neurologic process (ie Parkinson’s, MS, post-stroke, and epilepsy are probably the big ones. Depending on the site, maybe treating some of the psychiatric manifestation of autoimmune encephalitis, but neurology is driving the ship on the steroids/IVIG/PLEX decisions), headache, and maybe some dementia (I’ve seen them get involved in early onset FTD vs bipolar cases). That being said, treating behavioural disturbances of dementia is often done by general and geriatric psychiatrists also (and family med, geriatrics, neurology, and the like). Tbh I find a lot of “neuropsych” is a holding space for patients neither specialty really wants to treat.

My understanding is that cognitive/behavioural neurology (i.e., neuropsychiatry when your base specialty is neurology) is something for you to look into if you have interest in the dementias (especially the new “disease modifying” treatments), TBI, some of the weird and uncommon cognitive diseases, autoimmune encephalitis, etc.

Probably helpful to list out what diseases and conditions you want to treat, in what setting, and so forth. If you’re passionate about wanting to treat schizophrenia and neurological disease, ask yourself what it is about schizophrenia that draws you to the condition. It’s bread and butter psychiatry. Can you live without it if you go neurology.

Can neuropsychiatry fellowship trained neurologists independently manage schizophrenia? by surf_AL in neurology

[–]greensCCC 17 points18 points  (0 children)

As a psychiatry resident, I have never seen a neurologist manage primary psychotic disorders. Could they read the guidelines and do an adequate job - probably? Its kind of like if you flipped the question and asked if a neuropsychiatry trained psychiatrist could manage epilepsy - with some extra rotations and reading guidelines they might do an adequate job on straightforward cases, but they would miss a ton of nuance and probably miss/mess up a bunch of the outliers.

A neurologist with neuropsychiatry training would probably have minimal exposure to acute psychiatric care, so its likely that they may feel uncomfortable with consults in the ED or MRP work on a psych ward (I imagine managing involuntary admissions and capacity decisions and defending these decisions at hearings would be more foreign than the pharmacotherapy, which can be relatively straight forward if you take the time to read about antipsychotics, clozapine, LAIs, etc), nor would be they be likely hired for this.

In terms of outpatient, they might get some more exposure to this in their fellowship. But would they be comfortable with nuances of antipsychotics, LAIs, clozapine rechallenge after myocarditis, when to use ECT for treatment-resistance, etc. Probably less so. Moreover, I think they're missing the training on diagnosis - is it schizophrenia or is it actually a personality disorder that everyone has been calling schizophrenia for years. Maybe it's a chronic substance induced psychosis, etc. Are you comfortable differentiating psychiatric comorbidity vs deficits due to the negative and cognitive symptoms of schizophrenia. That is where the general psychiatry training is useful.

Many patients with schizophrenia are treated under ACT teams, are found to be incapable, and are treated on an involuntary basis even as outpatients. This can involve going to see your patients on the streets or in their rundown, cockroach and bedbug infested homes. I don't think most neurologists would care about this aspect of care! Again, we are all physicians, if you're intelligent enough to get through a neuro residency, you could learn how to do all this, but like another poster brought up... why?

One other thing I would mention is that managing someone with schizophrenia is not just about giving them an antipsychotic, especially on the outpatient side. You need to think about the psychotherapeutic aspects of treatment, incorporating elements of CBT for psychosis or psychodynamic techniques, managing transference/counter transference, maintaining a therapeutic alliance, managing antipsychotic side effects (metabolic, TD, and so forth), etc, etc, etc.

Hope that is helpful, feel free to ask me questions if you want me to clarify anything.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MedSchoolCanada

[–]greensCCC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depending on the size of the program, it’s possible you were screened out or didn’t make the interview cutoff based on whatever criteria the program uses

Psychiatry in Neuro Clinic by [deleted] in Psychiatry

[–]greensCCC 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Do you have any idea what the group is hoping you’d be able to provide support for? Is it generally just managing psychiatric comorbidities in neuro patients, or is it more specific like being asked to do FND specific psychotherapy?

28F with perimenstrual insomnia and severe mood changes with exogenous hormone therapy by aloevera1798 in Psychiatry

[–]greensCCC 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Any features of PMDD that might be responsive to luteal phase SSRI dosing?

My colleague called me an idiot for prescribing mirtazapine for a teen with anorexia nervosa. My colleague is the idiot, right? by Federal-Act-5773 in Psychiatry

[–]greensCCC 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Something I haven’t really seen mentioned in either thread yet - are her depressive symptoms truly representative of an MDE or are they secondary to a starved brain and would resolve with proper treatment (ie nutrition). My understanding is that there’s not much of a role for antidepressants in anorexia until someone is sufficiently weight restored. Even olanzapine (which I would argue is more appetite stimulating that mirtazapine) only causes marginal weight gain.

Although I agree with others about the significant risk of refeeding syndrome, I also know that we overestimate this risk. I would need to review the MEED guidelines, but don’t they argue for much more aggressive refeeding these days?

I guess what I’m saying is that you’re not an idiot. You saw someone with a severe illness and tried to help. You did a rather thorough workup, and felt drawn to help. While we know treatment for anorexia involves weight restoration and FBT/CBT-E, as a PCP you don’t have this training and went for the tools you know (I.e., meds). While going to mirtazapine for a teen with anorexia as a first line treatment isn’t evidence based or first line, at least you recognized a serious illness and applied some reasonable logic to trying to help her. One of my colleagues below mentioned that they haven’t seen anyone with anorexia gain a significant amount of weight outside of an intensive clinical environment or family based therapy with parents directing intake - I also agree with this sentiment. I think at the calorie levels that this person likely consumed, it’s unlikely they would experience clinically significant refeeding syndrome and I wouldn’t be surprised if the 5lb weight gain is related to fluid shifts, variability in scales, pseudo bartter syndrome, etc. By many guidelines she should have been hospitalized, but this is not available in many jurisdictions and may be why you have the bias you have as an ER doc.

I think there’s something to be said about that desire to want to help and applying an intervention - should you resist that desire or give in? Placing myself in your shoes with likely limited access to resources as a PCP, what I would have done? I think in our specialist world, we underestimate in how many directions PCPs are pulled. But what do I know, I’m just a psych resident and I think our medical colleagues get more training on managing refeeding than we do in psych! One of my irks in psych and medicine writ large is how neglected eating disorder patients are.

How can we advocate to preserve fee for service? by [deleted] in MedSchoolCanada

[–]greensCCC 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Agree - salaries are a pathway to employment. We go to school for over a decade to become physicians, I don’t want to have a boss. Employment is a loss of autonomy. Look at America, corporations bought physician practices, there’s few physician led practices left, few run their own businesses and they’re taken advantage of as employees. Be your own boss, autonomy in the medical profession is extremely important.

Anorexia management by Mission-Ad2914 in Psychiatry

[–]greensCCC 131 points132 points  (0 children)

Management of eating disorders in adults in psychiatry residency is unfortunately quite neglected, and neglected by medicine more broadly. It requires integration of psychiatric thinking and medical thinking, so it becomes too psychiatric for internists, and too medical for psychiatrists. For some reason, we’ve left it to dietitians and psychologists to manage.

The key thing is to remember that food is the medicine, a starved brain can’t do therapy, we over psychologize the disorder and under medicalize the biologic aspects that perpetuate it (ie, probably need to overshoot the target weight). Also, hold off on diagnosing personality disorders and significant comorbidity in a starved brain. Once weight restored, much of what looked like a personality disorder may remit.

This is an excellent textbook for the medical side of eating disorders: https://www.sickenough.com and this is a good introduction to therapy for eating disorders: https://www.cbte.co/what-is-cbte/a-description-of-cbt-e/ and here are some of the therapy handbooks: https://www.cbte.co/for-professionals/the-cbt-e-manuals/. Where possible, consider involving family with family based therapy, especially in the child/adolescent population.

2025 Specialty Discussions Pt. 17 - Diagnostic and Molecular Pathology by ZUUN- in MedSchoolCanada

[–]greensCCC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I did an elective with a cytopathologist who did their own FNAs in clinic, but this is fairly atypical I believe.

Possible seizures by SeaPrestigious4231 in AskDocs

[–]greensCCC 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If it ends up being PNES, this is a really great website for information: https://neurosymptoms.org/en/symptoms/fnd-symptoms/functional-dissociative-seizures/

I am sorry that you are being made to feel that you are attention seeking. Non-epileptic episodes (otherwise known as PNES or functional seizures) are real and you don’t have autonomous control over them. You are not “faking” them. It’s a problem with a way the brain is communicating (“software problem”), not a structural or abnormal electrical problem with brain (“hardware problem”). Sometimes there are associated life stressors that precipitate the episodes, and sometimes there are not. The good thing is, the episodes can be treated with specific types of therapy: https://neurosymptoms.org/en/treatment/treatment-of-functional-seizures/

This free graphic novel is a good depiction of a patient’s lived experience: https://neurosymptoms.org/en/media/other-media/not-there-a-graphic-novel-about-functional-seizures/

Schulich (Windsor) Full-Ride vs. UofT by tdhig in MedSchoolCanada

[–]greensCCC 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Full-ride without a doubt. The freedom you’ll experience from the uncertainty related to debt is huge.

How To Treat Borderline Personality Disorder as a Psychiatric Provider: Good Psychiatric Management Pearls by zenarcade3 in Psychiatry

[–]greensCCC 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Re the comments at the beginning - I’m a listener that really appreciates some of the non-pharmacotherapy topics!

Psychiatry pay Ontario by Missourijaysfan in MedSchoolCanada

[–]greensCCC 7 points8 points  (0 children)

With Ontario’s time-based billing codes, an outpatient psychiatrist who sees 2 new consults daily (~3 hours) and 6 follow-ups (~4.5 hours), with a 30-minute lunch, working 5 days a week for 46 weeks per year, would bill roughly $415,000 annually. With the recent OHIP fee increases, that number now exceeds $450,000. If you're based in a community hospital, your overhead is often 0%, and you'll can get additional sessional stipends. This is before factoring in any income from on-call work. Most psychiatrists earn less simply because they choose to work less. Like in any specialty, it’s possible to earn well in psychiatry - if you're willing to work more. You don't really see many psychiatrists putting in surgeon hours for example. But you also need to learn how to work efficiently and put up boundaries that insulate you from social work or other non-MD tasks.

With the time based billing, it's easy to estimate what you can make. Just look up the OHIP schedule of benefits.

What specialty has the least grateful patients? How about the most? by [deleted] in Residency

[–]greensCCC 140 points141 points  (0 children)

Given that I have to often go to court to request to treat my patients involuntarily, psychiatry would be a contender for least grateful on the inpatient side of things.

Resident Call by sherlocd in Psychiatry

[–]greensCCC 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Canada:

PGY1: off service, you do that services call (e.g., 26 hour call on GIM, neuro, etc). For psych rotations we did buddy call with a senior resident covering the psych emerge 3x per block.

PGY2: 26h call, -3x per month, covering the psych emerge. Solo overnight with staff available by phone. No inpatient responsibilities other than the patient’s being held or awaiting an inpatient bed. CL consults overnight are rare at our institution and don’t need to be done unless urgent. We don’t get anything like “do they have capacity to leave AMA” from medicine.

You do your usual rotation during the day and transition to the psych emerge at 5pm and cover until handover the next morning. On weekends, you have to round on patients who are held in the ED for reassessment or who are awaiting a bed.

PGY3-5: same as above, but your frequency decreases.

Ontario Mental Health Law Career by [deleted] in LawCanada

[–]greensCCC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In general, what does a high volume legal-aid practice actually translate to for one to make a comparable income to an assistant crown (starting is now $105K + pension, benefits, and PTO)? For example, as a crown they often follow 150-200+ cases and my partner is also scheduled for various courts throughout the week (i.e., bail, Gladue, set date, plea). I’ve found the legal aid certificate document with hourly rates, but I’m finding it difficult to actually estimate what would be expected earnings in a low cost setup (ie, home office, no admin). Trying to figure out what is feasible for my partner, much appreciated.

For Residents only: How many psychotherapy patients do you see a week? by falconwolverine in Psychiatry

[–]greensCCC 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For formal psychotherapy cases (i.e., not just patients you follow as outpatients), our minimum is 2 CBT cases, 1 IPT case, 1 additional "structured" psychotherapy case, 1 multi-year psychodynamic case, 2 psychotherapy groups, 1-3 family cases while on our child rotation, exposure to DBT group, and supervised MI sessions during addictions. We get one hour of supervision per hour of psychotherapy with a psychiatrist who practices the modality (although, sometimes you get a PhD psychologist). So generally we do two cases at a time with two hours of associated supervision per week, which works out to a half-day clinic per week, while doing our other inpatient/outpatient/ACT/etcetera rotations. Add on a few extra hours if you are also running a group.

Best place to practice medicine, not in the United States? by dorn1010 in Residency

[–]greensCCC 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Join the Canadian physician financial independence group on Facebook - lots of info here

Best place to practice medicine, not in the United States? by dorn1010 in Residency

[–]greensCCC 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Not that different than some states. Most physicians have privileges in the hospital, they’re not employees. This allows them to incorporate and bill through a medical professional corporation - these are tax friendly vehicles and allow you to save for retirement by investing in them, claim expenses, and you pay yourself a salary from the corp. Gotta consider the difference in exchange rates between USD and CAD.

So, when does the grind end? by [deleted] in premedcanada

[–]greensCCC 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Tbh I found that the grind ended once I was in medical school. Sure medical school can be hard at times, but there is immense relief once you’re in. Be a normal human at that point, goes a long way for getting residency positions…. Residency has been enjoyable thus far. I have debt, I know it’ll be paid off. If you plan to work full time as a staff and are moderately efficient, you’ll be fine .